Do you own your body?

[ll74]

Most people call it a human being .....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629612225206927362

 

[adrina]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/26/louisiana-abortion-ban-miscarriage-treatments

Another group of delightful little idiots that got exactly what they asked for but seem to have some regrets now.

At six weeks pregnant with her second child, Joshua called a physician group in Baton Rouge – her state’s capital – to schedule her first prenatal appointment, but the clinic denied her an appointment. The group said it was no longer providing prenatal care for women under 12 weeks of pregnancy because it thought it was too risky in light of the abortion ban that took effect in Louisiana after last year’s overturning of Roe v Wade to be ambiguous.

To the author of the ban, the Louisiana state senator Katrina Jackson, the language makes it clear that miscarriage treatment is distinct from an abortion. Though she did not speak with the Guardian, she has previously released a statement to National Public Radio and its local New Orleans affiliate, WWNO, saying that nothing in the law bans women from receiving miscarriage treatments.

But Jackson has not indicated whether she may try to at all clarify the legislation she authored. She first faced calls to do at least that after Louisiana woman Nancy Davis, who was carrying a skull-less fetus that would die within a short time of birth, was denied an abortion in the state and had to travel to New York to terminate the pregnancy.

Poorly written legislation. Check.
Punitive treatment of professionals. Check.
Treating abortion like a crime. Check.

Thankfully Kaitlyn Joshua lived. This time.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632056808092348416

 

[adrina]

https://www.businessinsider.com/pol...-to-prosecute-people-seeking-abortions-2023-2

Facebook and Google are handing over user data to help police prosecute abortion seekers​

As abortion bans across the nation are implemented and enforced, law enforcement is turning to social media platforms to build cases to prosecute women seeking abortions or abortion-inducing medication – and online platforms like Google and Facebook are helping.

Treating women like terrorists. For seeking medical attention.

 

[lovecraft68]

If you're a republican talking about reproductive rights No.
If you're a democrat talking about taking an untested vaccine the answer is No.

My body my choice is as fluid as it gets based on whatever political ideology you refuse to question.

 

[adrina]

If you're a republican talking about reproductive rights No.
If you're a democrat talking about taking an untested vaccine the answer is No.

My body my choice is as fluid as it gets based on whatever political ideology you refuse to question.

Pardon, but fuck right off with the anti vax bullshit. Pregnancy is not an infectious disease.

Take that crap down the road Jack.

 

[ll74]

If you're a republican talking about reproductive rights No.
If you're a democrat talking about taking an untested vaccine the answer is No.

My body my choice is as fluid as it gets based on whatever political ideology you refuse to question.

Yes, you don't understand the difference because you're a moron

 

[lovecraft68]

Here's the maddening spins on this. Looking at it from the outside, which few people do. I'll give you both arguments when it comes to R v W and vaccines.

If I'm a conservative, I say "Well a fetus has no choice if it lives or dies, but an adult does. They should be protected from murder, we can assume the risk for ourselves.

Okay...now I'll go with the liberal side. "The fetus isn't a person, and its up to the woman and no one else, and she's only choosing for her. If you don't take the vaccine you could be hurting others, its not just you.

The loop goes on and on and on.

There's some merit to both arguments(although I am pro choice and I did get the vaccine but not because of politicians because of my personal opinions and my wife has a compromised immune system)problem is this.

We're talking about choice, but people here don't have one. You HAVE to take the side of your party on the issue, you CAN'T think for yourself or else you become one of them.

Years ago we could talk about anything and change people's opinions with a good point. That's long gone, the red/blue cattle aren't capable of it, that's why this country will continue to go downhill.

Carlson and Maddow and their kind are the pied pipers and you're all the rats.

 

[AlexBailey]

There is a person behind every story of rape, abuse, being lied to, being subjected to religious persecution by family or spouse, osteoporosis and other physical consequences of being pregnant repeatedly, being threatened or controlled, being trafficked, severe poverty…

“Just moving to a state where you have reproductive freedom” is a very simple sounding solution to those with health, wealth, and resources.

The reality can be a nightmare.

 

[AlexBailey]

Regarding the vaccine,

I know many people who were able to do and go where they needed without vaccinations by documenting their “Religious” exemptions, which could include claims of believing their body is a “sacred temple”. In cases where they were going to be in close contact with others they were also required to have a recent negative Covid test.

So yeah, there were hurdles to jump through, but it was an emergency and no one knew how bad it was going to be. It’s only a matter of luck that the virus didn’t mutate to be more deadly.

On the best side, it only killed a small percentage of people who got infected, on the downside, if we have a more deadly pandemic in the future there will be an even greater pushback against safety measures. A perfect storm could bring a virus with a much higher fatality rate and we will have a true nightmare scenario that will cause more social and economic damage.

Keep your fingers crossed.

 

[adrina]

Not taking the vaccine was never threatened with imprisonment - or, as of just recently with abortions, the death penalty. Irony that. Nor were anti vax morons ever stalked on social media by law enforcement. Doctors who refused to administer the vaccine were not at risk of being imprisoned. The comparison is beyond idiotic.

Quit being so goddamned histrionic.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632773619431374848

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1631488745861156864

 

[Lazaran]

Every post from BabyBoobs lately has basically been a white flag of surrender.

I’m pretty sure THE FOX “NEWS” SCANDAL broke BabyBoobs.

BabyBoobs

 

[jaF0]

If you're a student and want to be free of fear of being shot in school, No.

 

[adrina]

It doesn't help that dipshit boy is posting tweets from a parody account. Idiot.

 

[adrina]

But in news that matters....

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/07/florida-abortion-ban-6-week-bills-00085865

Florida’s Republican-led legislature on Tuesday filed bills that would ban abortions after six weeks of pregnancy but offer exemptions for victims of rape and incest if they can provide official proof of the crime.

Fuckers are doing it. Going after a 6 week ban in Florida. More poorly written legislation without real thought.

It'll likely pass too.

 

[adrina]

And more news that's more important than conservative histrionics:

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/5-women-sue-texas-abortion-bans-lives-put/story?id=97614294

Five women are suing the state of Texas over its strict abortion laws, saying they were denied the procedure even though their lives were in danger.

The lawsuit -- filed in state court Monday by the Center for Reproductive Rights -- marks the first time that women, rather than doctors on behalf of their patients or advocacy groups, have taken legal action since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

According to the lawsuit, the women were "denied necessary and potentially life-saving obstetrical care because medical professionals throughout the state fear liability under Texas's abortion bans."

Hope they win but given the way the courts are structured... it's an uphill battle. Just so their lives aren't threatened by men making laws about stuff they have no clue about.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If you're a student and want to be free of fear of being shot in school, No.

Weaksauce pivot attempt.

 

[Lazaran]

But in news that matters....

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/07/florida-abortion-ban-6-week-bills-00085865



Fuckers are doing it. Going after a 6 week ban in Florida. More poorly written legislation without real thought.

It'll likely pass too.

You should seriously consider getting out of Florida - for numerous reasons, - if you can manage it.

Moving to higher ground would be my number one reason, with the fascist government being a close second.

I actually lived in Florida (Orlando area, Fern Park, near Altamonte Springs) in the mid 80’s, and I saw the writing on the wall.

It isn’t too late; and you could probably get top dollar for your house, (if you own), right now.

Of course your job, (if you aren’t retired), may be the ultimate deciding factor. Although changing jobs didn’t stop me from leaving.

Something to think about.

*nods*

 

[adrina]

https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/333071603_963013558018925_3731997378436413257_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=GvSpjqZshVIAX9QmoHY&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAbbHPzmbNWE_OvqbJdpaBJE2F-OFgtXCg1Ub68NT-z9w&oe=640EDEDC

 

[adrina]

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/1162805773/texas-man-sues-abortion-pills

A Texas man has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against three friends of his ex-wife for allegedly helping her obtain pills used to induce an abortion last year.


The lawsuit seeks more than $1 million from each of the three defendants and an injunction prohibiting them from "distributing abortion pills." The woman who obtained the abortion is not a defendant in the suit.


It's believed to be the first such case since the Dobbs v Jackson Women's Health Organization decision last June overturned decades of abortion-rights precedent, allowing laws criminalizing abortion to take effect around the country.

That's a mighty large government for such fans of small government.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/1162805773/texas-man-sues-abortion-pills



That's a mighty large government for such fans of small government.

The perfect size to fit inside a uterus.

 

[RobDownSouth]

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/1162805773/texas-man-sues-abortion-pills



That's a mighty large government for such fans of small government.

Having legislated from teh bench to abandon Roe V. Wade, the extreme right wing will now target the availability of mail order abortion pills.

 

[adrina]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...h-carolina-death-penalty-abortion-1234695566/

21 South Carolina GOP Lawmakers Propose Death Penalty for Women Who Have Abortions​

It’s not just a lone extremist: The bill has 21 co-sponsors in the state’s House of Representatives

Members of the South Carolina State House are considering a bill that would make a woman who has an abortion in the state eligible for the death penalty.


The “South Carolina Prenatal Equal Protection Act of 2023” would amend the state’s code of laws, redefining “person” to include a fertilized egg at the point of conception, affording that zygote “equal protection under the homicide laws of the state” — up to and including the ultimate punishment: death.