Do you own your body?

WTF is wrong with you. I'm fiercely pro-choice and always have been. I'm against government taking away any freedoms from any citizen. Where the fuck do you get, "Pregnancy really is just nothing to you apparently." from that?
Because you're falsely equating it to the military
 
Because you're falsely equating it to the military
No. I am comparing it to the draft. Compulsory military service. The question was do you own you own body? Forced pregnancy and forced military service are two examples of not owning your body. It's not a hard concept to wrap your brain around even if you have a feeble one.
 
No. I am comparing it to the draft. Compulsory military service. The question was do you own you own body? Forced pregnancy and forced military service are two examples of not owning your body. It's not a hard concept to wrap your brain around even if you have a feeble one.
Yah, the comparison is quite different...as was mentioned by adrina, especially since there is no draft currently
 
No. I am comparing it to the draft. Compulsory military service. The question was do you own you own body? Forced pregnancy and forced military service are two examples of not owning your body. It's not a hard concept to wrap your brain around even if you have a feeble one.
The United States doesn’t have compulsory military service. Congress could overrule this in the event of imminent threat to the homeland.
 
The Draft was suspended in 1973. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973. Coincidence?
 
Yah, the comparison is quite different...as was mentioned by adrina, especially since there is no draft currently
The comparison is you don't control your own body. Exactly the same. And the Roe vs Wade currently has not been overturned. Stop being a pedantic douche.
 
U.S. doesn't currently have a draft. You still have to register for the draft. At best you can say it is suspended. Only a fool would trust Nixon, Bush, Cheney, or Trump to not start an illegal war and reinstate it over lies like the Gulf of Tonken, WMD's, or stolen elections.

It would be like registering your ability to have an abortion and trusting Trump to honor that. A draft is only one lie away from politicians who make their living lying to the American public.


Selective Service


Learn how a military draft works and find out if and how you need to register for Selective Service.

The Draft

A draft is the mandatory enrollment of individuals into the armed forces. The United States military has been all-volunteer since 1973. But an act of Congress could still reinstate the draft in case of a national emergency. The Selective Service System is the agency that registers men and is responsible for running a draft.

Who Must Register with Selective Service

  • Almost all men ages 18-25 who are U.S. citizens or are immigrants living in the U.S. are required to register with Selective Service. Citizens must register within 30 days of turning 18. Immigrants must register within 30 days of arriving in the U.S.

https://www.usa.gov/selective-service

 
They also enjoy things like housing benefits, employment aid and financial assistance. And even, just depending, a retirement package.

You can't enjoy benefits if you're dead.


One‐Third of Americans Killed In Vietnam War Are Draftees​

WASHINGTON, Feb. 11—The war in Vietnam has claimed more than 12,000 deaths among draftees, most of them in the army, the Pentagon said today.

This means that about one of every 104 draftees from June, 1965, the beginning of the Vietnam build‐up, to June, 1969, was killed in action.

Figures made public by the Defense Department show that roughly 33 per cent of Americans killed in combat were draftees.


https://www.nytimes.com/1970/02/12/...icans-killed-in-vietnam-war-are-draftees.html
 
The comparison is you don't control your own body. Exactly the same. And the Roe vs Wade currently has not been overturned. Stop being a pedantic douche.
It's not,but you're entitled to your opinion, certainly,that it is. I think Adrina appropriately answered that better than I can
 

You can't enjoy benefits if you're dead.


One‐Third of Americans Killed In Vietnam War Are Draftees​

WASHINGTON, Feb. 11—The war in Vietnam has claimed more than 12,000 deaths among draftees, most of them in the army, the Pentagon said today.

This means that about one of every 104 draftees from June, 1965, the beginning of the Vietnam build‐up, to June, 1969, was killed in action.

Figures made public by the Defense Department show that roughly 33 per cent of Americans killed in combat were draftees.


https://www.nytimes.com/1970/02/12/...icans-killed-in-vietnam-war-are-draftees.html

Irrelevant. Women die in gestation and childbirth. And there is no compensation. None.

Making comparisons between the draft, SS and abortion is asinine and illogical.

And again, at least we as a country compensate soldiers for their service. We don't - and you know we won't - provide any compensation on any similar level to women. Ever. In fact we make them pick up the tab. Can you imagine charging a soldier for their service?
 
It's not,but you're entitled to your opinion, certainly,that it is. I think Adrina appropriately answered that better than I can
No she didn't. Her positions are contradictory and myopic. Soldiers get free food and housing? So did slaves. I believe people should control their bodies. I'm against compulsory pregnancy and compulsory military service. Both are examples of government controlling one's body. Denying the draft is a loss of freedom to hustle your own pet issue at the expense of every other issue that involves loss of freedom is brain dead stupid.
 
No she didn't. Her positions are contradictory and myopic. Soldiers get free food and housing? So did slaves. I believe people should control their bodies. I'm against compulsory pregnancy and compulsory military service. Both are examples of government controlling one's body. Denying the draft is a loss of freedom to hustle your own pet issue at the expense of every other issue that involves loss of freedom is brain dead stupid.
Soldiers have a choice and receive compensation for that choice.
 
Irrelevant. Women die in gestation and childbirth. And there is no compensation. None.

Making comparisons between the draft, SS and abortion is asinine and illogical.

And again, at least we as a country compensate soldiers for their service. We don't - and you know we won't - provide any compensation on any similar level to women. Ever. In fact we make them pick up the tab. Can you imagine charging a soldier for their service?

Either you are in control of your own body or you aren't. Indentured servants are compensated for their service too. Your arguments are hypocritical and ridiculous. You make it sound like if women were paid a modest fee for forced pregnancy you'd be cool with that. I believe in freedom for all to control their bodies. Not just pregnant women.
 
No she didn't. Her positions are contradictory and myopic. Soldiers get free food and housing? So did slaves. I believe people should control their bodies. I'm against compulsory pregnancy and compulsory military service. Both are examples of government controlling one's body. Denying the draft is a loss of freedom to hustle your own pet issue at the expense of every other issue that involves loss of freedom is brain dead stupid.
Soldiers are paid.

More asinine comparisons. You want to try to compare the draft to slavery now. Even though soldiers were paid and received benefits. I think there are some actual slaves that might like a word with you. Speaking of contradictory and myopic.
 
Either you are in control of your own body or you aren't. Indentured servants are compensated for their service too. Your arguments are hypocritical and ridiculous. You make it sound like if women were paid a modest fee for forced pregnancy you'd be cool with that. I believe in freedom for all to control their bodies. Not just pregnant women.

And again, for the folks in the back, at least they were paid for it and received benefits for their service.
 
Soldiers are paid.

More asinine comparisons. You want to try to compare the draft to slavery now. Even though soldiers were paid and received benefits. I think there are some actual slaves that might like a word with you. Speaking of contradictory and myopic.
Whatever Karen. Take it up with the manager.
 
No one is getting drafted, fuckwaffle.
No. By law you have to register for the draft because the draft could be reinstated at a moments notice. You would have to be really stupid to think a moron like Trump would not do that because Putin does it or some other favorite dictator of his does it.
 
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