Do you own your body?

[adrina]

Benefits available to every draftee vs benefits available to a small percentage of women, usually for a very limited amount of time.



Cobbling together a list without understanding the massive limitations, exceptions and applications is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Benefits available to every draftee vs benefits available to a small percentage of women, usually for a very limited amount of time.

I like how you pretend there is no struggle for veterans in obtaining their benefits and support.

And who are these majority of forced pregnant women who don't get the listed benefits, resources and services I brought up?

 

[adrina]

I like how you pretend there is no struggle for veterans in obtaining their benefits and support.

And who are these majority of forced pregnant women who don't get the listed benefits, resources and services I brought up?

I'm not pretending anything. Every benefit I listed is available to every single individual in the services. They are provided all of those things. Some of those things have to be obtained through specific agencies solely dedicated to military personnel.

Most of the benefits that you listed are only available to low-income or poverty stricken women. Most women do not qualify for the majority of the benefits you listed. Or should I say copy and pasted.

Get serious or get lost.

 

[TastySuckToy]

I'm not pretending anything. Every benefit I listed is available to every single individual in the services. They are provided all of those things. Some of those things have to be obtained through specific agencies solely dedicated to military personnel.

Yeah, no. It's a well documented issue where veterans struggle to obtain and retain their benefits.

Most of the benefits that you listed are only available to low-income or poverty stricken women. Most women do not qualify for the majority of the benefits you listed.

Most pregnant women voluntarily choose to get pregnant, and understand that society is not obligated to pay for personal lifestyle choices.

You were talking about forced pregnant women and now switching it up to all pregnant women.

Pick a lane.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yeah, no. It's a well documented issue where veterans struggle to obtain and retain their benefits.

Most pregnant women voluntarily choose to get pregnant, and understand that society is not obligated to pay for personal lifestyle choices.

You were talking about forced pregnant women and now switching it up to all pregnant women.

Pick a lane.

One has to wonder what political party would make veterans struggle to obtain benefits.

 

[adrina]

Yeah, no. It's a well documented issue where veterans struggle to obtain and retain their benefits.

Most pregnant women voluntarily choose to get pregnant, and understand that society is not obligated to pay for personal lifestyle choices.

You were talking about forced pregnant women and now switching it up to all pregnant women.

Pick a lane.

Again, there are entire administrations specifically dedicated to serving the veterans. I did not claim it was always easy, but the services are available from a centralized agency typically - for every vet. Interestingly, they will even provide transportation to medical appointments if needed. Just as an FYI.

Additionally most men are not in the military, most men are not in the service, most men are not veterans. Most women however do get pregnant. Further their service lasts essentially a lifetime, but for a minimum of 18 years.

The lists that you pasted specifically applies to women who are at or below the poverty level, are only available through multiple administrations often with concurrent multiple applications. Further they are dependent on filing for child support, regardless of the situation with the impregnator.

If you want to try comparing apples to oranges, then the military selective service registration is applicable.

Again this is just arguing to argue. Ironically you support the political party which cuts benefits to veterans. Yet want to use them as a pawn.

 

[TastySuckToy]

One has to wonder what political party would make veterans struggle to obtain benefits.

Many veterans struggle with accessing the benefits and services they are supposed to receive due to several key issues. The benefits system can be very complex, with numerous forms, requirements, and processes that can be difficult to navigate, creating a barrier to veterans accessing the help they need.

Additionally, the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) often faces backlogs in processing claims, leading to significant delays in veterans receiving their benefits. Inadequate resources within the VA can further hinder the timely and adequate provision of services, including medical care, mental health services, and support for housing and employment. Bureaucratic hurdles and inefficiencies within the VA add to these challenges.

Some veterans may not be fully aware of the benefits and services available to them or may not know how to apply for them. Moreover, veterans dealing with mental health issues or those who feel a stigma associated with seeking help may be less likely to pursue the benefits and services available to them.

Efforts are ongoing to improve the system, streamline processes, and ensure veterans receive the support they deserve, but many challenges remain.

I'm sure when adrina insisted forced pregnant women should get benefits like draftees, the above situation is what she is looking for.

 

[Lazaran]

Benefits available to every draftee vs benefits available to a small percentage of women, usually for a very limited amount of time.



Cobbling together a list without understanding the massive limitations, exceptions and applications is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

“NA” / “Some conditions apply” / “Not all costs are covered” was never more relevant.



All women have full access to abortion and reproductive health services too - IF they are willing to move or travel for them and bear the associated costs and hardships.



NastyFuckBoy is such a clownish sealion.

 

[TastySuckToy]

Additionally most men are not in the military, most men are not in the service, most men are not veterans. Most women however do get pregnant. Further their service lasts essentially a lifetime, but for a minimum of 18 years.

Most women choose to get and keep a pregnancy, and it's a personal lifestyle choice, not a government service job.

 

[Lazaran]

Most women choose to get and keep a pregnancy, and it's a personal lifestyle choice, not a government service job.

By the fascist “republicans” / “conservatives” in government getting involved and FORCING women to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth, it IS a government “service” job:

I believe the classification is “Hamdmaiden”.



“republican” / “conservative” fascists in government are the pronlem.

They need to be voted out of / removed from office.



NaatyFuckBoy

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Most women choose to get and keep a pregnancy, and it's a personal lifestyle choice, not a government service job.

Don’t most people also choose to join the military?

 

[adrina]

Most women choose to get and keep a pregnancy, and it's a personal lifestyle choice, not a government service job.

Interesting take. So having sex should result in some kind of punishment, like not having access to reproductive care because men have to register for the SS. Okie dokie.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I fucked up an earlier post (which I have since deleted) that was questioning whether TaintyFuckBoi is simply an ignorant POS, or if TaintyFuckBoi is an ignorant sealioning POS.

I’m going with the latter.

He's just a sealion, a shitty one too boot. which is why he ended up ignored on my end.

 

[jaF0]

Judge rejects religious leaders’ challenge of Missouri abortion ban​

A Missouri judge has rejected the argument that lawmakers intended to “impose their religious beliefs on everyone” in the state when they passed a restrictive abortion ban.

 

[jaF0]

Vote you say? No, we won't let you!!!

The anti-abortion movement is making a big play to thwart citizen initiatives on reproductive rights​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|44 minutes ago
Anti-abortion groups and their Republican allies in state governments are using a range of strategies to counter proposed ballot initiatives that are intended to protect reproductive rights or prevent ...

 

[MajorRewrite]

Vote you say? No, we won't let you!!!

The anti-abortion movement is making a big play to thwart citizen initiatives on reproductive rights​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|44 minutes ago
Anti-abortion groups and their Republican allies in state governments are using a range of strategies to counter proposed ballot initiatives that are intended to protect reproductive rights or prevent ...

I am shocked, SHOCKED, that Republicans are using fraud and obstruction to thwart the will of the citizens. It’s so unlike them.

 

[MichiganBiker27]

It's working class and middle class people that the capitalist authorities exploit, including heterosexual men. The Democrats and Republicans, with their identity politics, want people fighting each other over culture war nonsense rather than focusing on opposing the super rich capitalist warmongers.

Class is the root division, not gender, not race, not nationality, not religion.

This right here! You are so correct (not 'right' but correct)

 

[RandyRebecca]

This right here! You are so correct (not 'right' but correct)

Yep. This isn't merely "dumb men" going after women's rights, it's a deliberate divide and rule strategy by big business capitalists and their politicians so that we're fighting amongst ourselves and aren't pointing out the profiteering and warmongering that the politicians (of both mainstream parties) get up to. The Democratic and Republican politicians want a culture war over abortion right now.

 

[MichiganBiker27]

And maybe not fully related, but what about all the "good Christians" who demand babies be born but then turn their backs on the poor mom who needs financial help.

 

[dkovic77]

And maybe not fully related, but what about all the "good Christians" who demand babies be born but then turn their backs on the poor mom who needs financial help.

Ohhhh don’t ask for logic….not something that is high on their priority list.

 

[MichiganBiker27]

Or love and kindness

 

[Lazaran]

And maybe not fully related, but what about all the "good Christians" who demand babies be born but then turn their backs on the poor mom who needs financial help.

Those "good Christians" do far worse than just turn their backs on those women.

 

[MichiganBiker27]

And they stand and yell and scream on the Bible - but don't live what it says

 

[dkovic77]

And they stand and yell and scream on the Bible - but don't live what it says

These are the same Christians who believe it is two Corinthians. (The whole ballgame…..)

They bought themselves a new book this year.

 

[MichiganBiker27]

These are the same Christians who believe it is two Corinthians. (The whole ballgame…..)

They bought themselves a new book this year.

I don't understand, please tell me what you mean?