Do you own your body?

[adrina]

Or methotrexate. Since methotrexate and most surgeries will probably disappear from what is left of healthcare, we may need something else.

Whatever professions replace doctors may be mostly women for a few centuries, since reproductive health will be a huge issue of a population that takes a steep drop and long slow partial recovery.

If caught in time. Methotrexate does nothing for a burst fallopian tube.

Look, the reality is that we (read mostly men) have legislated and handled abortion from a perspective of complete ignorance and insecurity. This cavalier attitude must end. The reality is that we have almost 30k rape babies in each of the 14 states which have banned abortion. Less than 10 abortions have taken place in those states.

Unfettered abortion access is crucial.

 

[Lazaran]

If caught in time. Methotrexate does nothing for a burst fallopian tube.

Look, the reality is that we (read mostly men) have legislated and handled abortion from a perspective of complete ignorance and insecurity. This cavalier attitude must end. The reality is that we have almost 30k rape babies in each of the 14 states which have banned abortion. Less than 10 abortions have taken place in those states.

Unfettered abortion access is crucial.

You’re engaging with an absolute fatalist / nihilist. - Their only "solution" is to surrender to their dystopian vision of the inevitable "fall of man", totally discounting / rejecting solutions (both political and scientific) produced by the modern human mind’s ingenuity and sense of propriety.

Ironically, the imbecile you’re engaging with sees promise in primitive "solutions" that were also the product of primitive human minds.

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...&cvid=0cdc950d484344748ade13f002ee37ec&ei=173

U.S. publisher retracts studies cited by Texas judge in suspending abortion pill's approval​

two studies cited by a texas judge in order to suspend approval for Mifepristone have been withdrawn by publishers on grounds of flawed methodology. This comes less than 2 months before President Biden's case about it is expected to be heard by SCOTUS.

Sage said in its retraction notice that it had independent experts look at the two studies, as well as a third study led by Studnicki, in response to a reader's concern.

The experts found "fundamental problems" that "invalidate the authors' conclusions in whole or in part," according to Sage, which publishes more than 1,000 journals including Health Services Research and Managerial Epidemiology, where the retracted articles appeared.

The publisher also said that the authors' affiliations with the Charlotte Lozier Institute and other anti-abortion organizations should have been disclosed as a conflict of interest, and that one of the original peer reviewers was also affiliated with the institute.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...&cvid=0cdc950d484344748ade13f002ee37ec&ei=173

 

[jaF0]

Collection of bits from AP.

Florida attorney general set to ask state Supreme Court to keep abortion protections off the ballot ​

Which states could have abortion on the ballot in 2024? ​

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South Carolina woman seeks clarity on abortion ban in lawsuit backed by Planned Parenthood

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Tennessee’s strict abortion ban is under pressure, but change is unlikely under GOP control ​

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[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1755735283230716053

 

[jaF0]

Medicaid Ban Proposed for Women Who Have Abortions​

A Republican state senator in Missouri has proposed an amendment seeking to bar women who have had an abortion from receiving Medicaid coverage.



These fools don't seem to understand that the poor have been their biggest supporters, yet they keep trying to hurt them further.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

An herbalist solution to ectopic pregnancy? Good lord...

 

[jaF0]

TexASS thinks it does.


U.S. News // 2 hours ago
Texas tests extending abortion, gender-transition restrictions beyond state lines
Feb. 9 (UPI) -- Recent state and local legal maneuvers signal that Texas' conservative movement could be wading into a complicated Constitutional morass the country hasn't dealt with since before the Civil War.

 

[ll74]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1757433077238812724

 

[jaF0]

Missouri high court says Planned Parenthood can receive funding; cites failed appeal by state​

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/abcnews.go.com.icoABC|27 minutes ago
The Missouri Supreme Court has upheld a ruling that lawmakers illegally blocked Medicaid funding from going to Planned Parenthood ...

 

[eigenschwarz]

Well... do you?

I'm a man and I don't own my body. It belongs to my family, my employer, and my country. As long as the invisible hand of the market is holding a knife to your throat, you will never be free.

 

[jaF0]

^^^ You are free to leaver your family, your job and move to another country at any time of your choosing.

 

[eigenschwarz]

^^^ You are free to leaver your family, your job and move to another country at any time of your choosing.

A choice of masters doesn't matter much if you cannot choose to have no masters at all.

 

[adrina]

I'm a man and I don't own my body. It belongs to my family, my employer, and my country. As long as the invisible hand of the market is holding a knife to your throat, you will never be free.

What does being a man have anything to do with belonging to your family, employer or your country? Women check all those boxes.

Your nihilism isn't a rationale for fetal enslavement.

 

[jaF0]

In an article on funding a summer food program:


"Republican Gov. Tate Reeves' office declared it an unnecessary big government program, saying that if Washington D.C. Democrats had their way, "Americans would still be locked down, subjected to COVID vaccine and mask mandates, and welfare rolls would’ve exploded.”

Allen, who works as a transportation dispatcher and scheduler, thinks Reeves' priorities are misplaced. She pointed to the state's implementation of an abortion ban in 2022.

“Why do you care so much about my uterus and how many babies I’m having or aborting?” Allen said. “Why is that a concern when I still have to feed this child, but you’re not helping me do that?”"

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/14-gop-led-states-turned-federal-money-feed-107283782

 

[Lazaran]

What does being a man have anything to do with belonging to your family, employer or your country? Women check all those boxes.

Your nihilism isn't a rationale for fetal enslavement.

Translation of posts like the one you responded to:

"Men face the EXACT SAME issues as women in 2024 America ".

That ^ is a variation on the "republicans" and "third party-ers" regurgitating the "both sides are equally as bad", when talking about Democrats.



Trans men could make that claim, and it would probably be an understatement.

 

[TastySuckToy]

“Why do you care so much about my uterus and how many babies I’m having or aborting?” Allen said.

From the anti-abortion perspective, they care because they believe it's literally the killing of a human being.

“Why is that a concern when I still have to feed this child, but you’re not helping me do that?”"

Difficulty feeding a person isn't rational justification for killing them. It's like arguing I can't be against murdering a human being unless I'm prepared to house and feed them personally.

 

[eigenschwarz]

What does being a man have anything to do with belonging to your family, employer or your country? Women check all those boxes.

Your nihilism isn't a rationale for fetal enslavement.

Damn right it isn't. I want to see church, state, capital, community, and family abolished so that nobody is enslaved. Nobody should have to be a means to somebody else's ends.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

From the anti-abortion perspective, they care because they believe it's literally the killing of a human being.

Difficulty feeding a person isn't rational justification for killing them. It's like arguing I can't be against murdering a human being unless I'm prepared to house and feed them personally.

The anti-choice people claim they’re against abortion because it’s literally killing a human being, but if they really believed that they wouldn’t make exceptions for early-term abortions.

No, it’s about controlling and punishing women.

 

[TastySuckToy]

The anti-choice people claim they’re against abortion because it’s literally killing a human being, but if they really believed that they wouldn’t make exceptions for early-term abortions.

That depends entirely upon when one thinks a human being exists in the womb during the process of a pregnancy.

No, it’s about controlling and punishing women.

That's just provocative nonsense spouted to delibrately induce emotional and vitriolic rehtoric about the issue.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

That depends entirely upon when one thinks a human being exists in the womb during the process of a pregnancy.

That's just provocative nonsense spouted to delibrately induce emotional and vitriolic rehtoric about the issue.

If you think a fertilized egg is a human being then you should support banning all abortion, not make an exception for the first few weeks of pregnancy. Personally, I follow scripture. Human life begins when the newborn draws its first breath. Until then, it's the woman's choice.

 

[Lazaran]

That depends entirely upon when one thinks a human being exists in the womb during the process of a pregnancy.

That's just provocative nonsense spouted to delibrately induce emotional and vitriolic rehtoric about the issue.

No, it is not.



And vitriolic "rehtoric" is what the pro-birth contingent is all about.

 

[TastySuckToy]

If you think a fertilized egg is a human being then you should support banning all abortion, not make an exception for the first few weeks of pregnancy.

You're correct, that would definitely be a consistent position on the issue.

I don't agree with the stated premise, but your logic is sound.

Personally, I follow scripture. Human life begins when the newborn draws its first breath. Until then, it's the woman's choice.

I personally reject any and all appeals to religious scripture or reasoning.

 

[RandyRebecca]

No, it’s about controlling and punishing women.

The main aim, even beyond controlling and punishing women, is to distract people from pointing out billionaire profiteering at our expense, aiming to get us angry about culture war issues instead.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760152084240892211