SexySparkles
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Why or why not?
Do you believe in "God"?
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Star of Penumbra
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It depends on what you mean by 'god'.
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I'm a member of the Evil Atheist Conspiracy...you have been warned!
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I am very dyslexic at times, so I believe in Dog.
I know its an old joke, but I have always wanted to use it
I know its an old joke, but I have always wanted to use it
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It seems that all religions have one supreme being that is the 'creator' of all. I grew up in a very christian home. As an adult I have had many opinions of God or the existence of God.
As of now...for the present time anyway...I tend to believe in parallel universes more than a singular God. (Quantum Mechanics, and a certain Physicist from England.)
As of now...for the present time anyway...I tend to believe in parallel universes more than a singular God. (Quantum Mechanics, and a certain Physicist from England.)
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Indigo.Rose said:
God, I hope your're wrong...I mean George.
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I do.
My rationalization? I find it hard to believe that there was an effect without a cause. God is as good a cause for the universe as anything else.
Oh, and Riles? Belief or disbelief in God doesn't make him or Satan go away. Also, a lot of people believe in God but don't believe there is a Satan.
The biggest reason? Upbringing.SexySparkles said:
My rationalization? I find it hard to believe that there was an effect without a cause. God is as good a cause for the universe as anything else.
Oh, and Riles? Belief or disbelief in God doesn't make him or Satan go away. Also, a lot of people believe in God but don't believe there is a Satan.
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Yes, I believe in God.
By your question; "Why or why not?" I suppose you're asking for evidence that justifies my beliefs. I could get into elaborate explainations of "something coming from nothing," or "order derived from randomness," but that won't convince a non-believer, so what's the point? My beliefs and the evidence that justifies those beliefs are as personal as the relationship that develops between a believer and God.
I won't try to convince anyone else of the existence of God, but I respectfully request that those who don't believe, show equal respect to believers.
By your question; "Why or why not?" I suppose you're asking for evidence that justifies my beliefs. I could get into elaborate explainations of "something coming from nothing," or "order derived from randomness," but that won't convince a non-believer, so what's the point? My beliefs and the evidence that justifies those beliefs are as personal as the relationship that develops between a believer and God.
I won't try to convince anyone else of the existence of God, but I respectfully request that those who don't believe, show equal respect to believers.
Re: Re: Do you believe in "God"?
I agree, but in MY mind for all good there's an equal measure of evil. So though my rational might be simple and very unimaginative it's just that - MY rational. I'd rather focus on the things that I DO have power over in my life, and one of those things are my beliefs.
The Heretic said:
I agree, but in MY mind for all good there's an equal measure of evil. So though my rational might be simple and very unimaginative it's just that - MY rational. I'd rather focus on the things that I DO have power over in my life, and one of those things are my beliefs.
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Since Christian astrophsyicists believe that God would have be able to be "outside" or separate from our universe or universes, whether you believe in parallel universes or not shouldn't really have an effect on whether you believe there is a God.curious2c said:
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Nope. I consider religion to be waste of time...
that's right, I am A-theist
that's right, I am A-theist
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In other words, if I don't call you a moron for believing in fairy tales, you won't call me an evil sinner how's going to burn for eternity for not believing your 'truth'? I can live with that if you can!Texan said:
Most people aren't going to be swayed, so while it can be interesting to discuss it, I hate it when it turns into a fight.
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The Heretic said:
Ahhh...But if there are an infinite number of me in an infinite number of parallel universes, (and everybody else included) One of me probably believes in the existence of God.
Truthfully, I have had quite a few problems with the whole concept of God, and religion as of late. Personal and prefferably private reasons. So I will choose to...be more agnostic than anything else.
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Texan said:
what he said
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Johnny Mayberry said:In other words, if I don't call you a moron for believing in fairy tales, you won't call me an evil sinner how's going to burn for eternity for not believing your 'truth'? I can live with that if you can!
Most people aren't going to be swayed, so while it can be interesting to discuss it, I hate it when it turns into a fight.
Actually, no, I didn't mean it anything like the way you characterized my post. I believe that faith is a personal thing; so is the decision to not-believe. Respect for another's personal choices, when it comes to matters of faith, is fairly fundamental to civilized interaction.
I've been on this board for a long time. I've been in the middle of several discussions where belivers and non-belivers each try to justify their decisions. If others what to do it again, then y'all have fun. The problem is that most often, in the defense of diametrically opposed, non-provable opinions, each ends up tearing down the other, rather than trying to prove the merit of their own position.
Arguing about the existence of God is about like arguing about whether red is better than blue. Nobody convinces anyone, and since all evidence is subjective, the only end result is not good for anyone.
But, y'all enjoy.
Yes. I got Reasons...
http://www.ellopos.net/politics/eu_dostoyiefsky-zossima.html
Father Zossima says...
Love all God's creation, the whole and every grain of sand in it. Love every leaf, every ray of God's light. Love the animals, love the plants, love everything. If you love everything, you will perceive the divine mystery in things. Once you perceive it, you will begin to comprehend it better every day. And you will come at last to love the whole world with an all-embracing love. Love the animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble it, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to the animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you- alas, it is true of almost every one of us! Love children especially, for they too are sinless like the angels; they live to soften and purify our hearts and, as it were, to guide us. Woe to him who offends a child!
My brother asked the birds to forgive him; that sounds senseless, but it is right; for all is like an ocean, all is flowing and blending; a touch in one place sets up movement at the other end of the earth. It may be senseless to beg forgiveness of the birds, but birds would be happier at your side- a little happier, anyway- and children and all animals, if you were nobler than you are now. It's all like an ocean, I tell you. Then you would pray to the birds too, consumed by an all-embracing love, in a sort of transport, and pray that they too will forgive you your sin. Treasure this ecstasy, however senseless it may seem to men.
http://www.deoxy.org/amahuaca.htm
http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html
http://www.ccel.org/t/tolstoy/23_tales/htm/vii.v.htm
http://www.emersoncentral.com/nature1.htm
http://www.ellopos.net/politics/eu_dostoyiefsky-zossima.html
Father Zossima says...
Love all God's creation, the whole and every grain of sand in it. Love every leaf, every ray of God's light. Love the animals, love the plants, love everything. If you love everything, you will perceive the divine mystery in things. Once you perceive it, you will begin to comprehend it better every day. And you will come at last to love the whole world with an all-embracing love. Love the animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble it, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to the animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you- alas, it is true of almost every one of us! Love children especially, for they too are sinless like the angels; they live to soften and purify our hearts and, as it were, to guide us. Woe to him who offends a child!
My brother asked the birds to forgive him; that sounds senseless, but it is right; for all is like an ocean, all is flowing and blending; a touch in one place sets up movement at the other end of the earth. It may be senseless to beg forgiveness of the birds, but birds would be happier at your side- a little happier, anyway- and children and all animals, if you were nobler than you are now. It's all like an ocean, I tell you. Then you would pray to the birds too, consumed by an all-embracing love, in a sort of transport, and pray that they too will forgive you your sin. Treasure this ecstasy, however senseless it may seem to men.
http://www.deoxy.org/amahuaca.htm
http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html
http://www.ccel.org/t/tolstoy/23_tales/htm/vii.v.htm
http://www.emersoncentral.com/nature1.htm
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Originally posted by Indigo.Rose
I do not believe in God. I do not think there is a Heaven or a Hell. I do not believe in any God's or Godesses. I think evolution is the answer. I think when you die, there is nothing, you just die.
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That's an awfully depressing way of looking at life. You should believe in something, just so life wouldn't seem so defeatest.
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Originally posted by Indigo.Rose
I do not believe in God. I do not think there is a Heaven or a Hell. I do not believe in any God's or Godesses. I think evolution is the answer. I think when you die, there is nothing, you just die.
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That's an awfully depressing way of looking at life. You should believe in something, just so life wouldn't seem so defeatest.
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Tantrikenetic said:
I don't think its defeatist at all! Realistic, maybe, but for me it fills each day with excitement, knowing that whatever I want life to be, I have to make it happen NOW, because there may never be a later.
And I certainly don't think you should just pick up a belief to make yourself feel better,; isn't truth more important?
