Do any/many of us AHers post or peruse art work here on Lit?

[AG31]

EDIT: EDIT: It turns out that the report of the three deleted threads was posted in "Feedback on New Policy Announcement" in error. The threads did not contain posts violating the nudity policy. They were deleted for other reasons. So the issue has gone away.

NOTE: I tried to publish this in AH, but it looks like AI (lots of time spent before post takes affect) is managing to identify it as something that belongs in Lit Tech Support. Sigh.

I've tried to rally an uproar at what seems to be an intolerable implementation of the new nudity policy. That is, that whole threads will be removed if there are multiple posts in them that break the new policy. Many permissable art works will get swept up.

Minimally, everyone should be warned. Hopefully we can raise enough rucus to limit deletions to posts that break the policy.

I looked at my original post, and it's pretty hard to follow. But maybe there just aren't very many visual artists or art lovers in AH?

How do I know this is what's happening? Three threads were deleted in Fetish & Sexuality Central for breaking the policy, and another mod said that, because they could no longer see the threads, that means that Laurel or Manu did the deletion.

So is this issue of interest to you?

 

[ToPleaseHim]

I’m not sure you’ll ever succeed at rallying an uproar here, but I am curious. Are you under the impression that removing threads is new? There are 695 pages of threads in the Mod Forum filled with posts and threads that have been removed. This is not new.

Threads are removed for a variety of reasons, and one of those reasons is rules violations whether it’s the thread as a whole or multiple posts.

ETA: These would just be the threads removed by moderators, not the site. So the real number is even higher.

 

[barefootgirl69]

Three threads were deleted in Fetish & Sexuality Central for breaking the policy, and another mod said that, because they could no longer see the threads, that means that Laurel or Manu did the deletion.


What is it that you refuse to understand? Do you need to hear it from a plethora of other moderators?

1. Those threads were deleted by admins. We know this because they cannot be seen in the Mod Forum. They are GONE. Period. No one but the owners/admins has that power.

2. It is NOT a new thing to have entire threads disappear due to repeated violations. I've had three deleted in my first year - entire threads - because of repeated reports and violations (and they weren't even MY posts!).

Hopefully, this helps.

 

[Britva415]

I think you should be mad at the forum posters who break the rules and ruin it for everybody, not at the admins who might enforce the rules with extreme prejudice.

 

[AG31]

I’m not sure you’ll ever succeed at rallying an uproar here, but I am curious. Are you under the impression that removing threads is new? There are 695 pages of threads in the Mod Forum filled with posts and threads that have been removed. This is not new.

Threads are removed for a variety of reasons, and one of those reasons is rules violations whether it’s the thread as a whole or multiple posts.

ETA: These would just be the threads removed by moderators, not the site. So the real number is even higher.

These were threads removed because they contained SOME posts that violated the new nudity policy. I'm not complaining (here) about the new policy. I'm complaining about removing posts that DON'T VIOLATE the new policy. Especially without warning to posters who might need to save them off line.

 

[AG31]

I think you should be mad at the forum posters who break the rules and ruin it for everybody, not at the admins who might enforce the rules with extreme prejudice.

The point is that posts are being removed that DON'T VIOLATE THE POLICY. That doesn't seem fair. Especially with no warning. That this is being done had to be discovered by users.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

These were threads removed because they contained SOME posts that violated the new nudity policy. I'm not complaining (here) about the new policy. I'm complaining about removing posts that DON'T VIOLATE the new policy. Especially without warning to posters who might need to save them off line.

And I am telling you that that has been going on since the site existed. I am confused as to why you were acting like this is a brand new thing.

And ZERO threads have been removed in accordance with a new nudity policy. No new policy exists. An announcement was made that one will be coming “in the coming months.” Nothing new is happening besides this being the new topic people are choosing to fight about.

 

[AG31]

Three threads were deleted in Fetish & Sexuality Central for breaking the policy, and another mod said that, because they could no longer see the threads, that means that Laurel or Manu did the deletion.


What is it that you refuse to understand? Do you need to hear it from a plethora of other moderators?

1. Those threads were deleted by admins. We know this because they cannot be seen in the Mod Forum. They are GONE. Period. No one but the owners/admins has that power.

I know. I thought I made that clear. The deletions were done by Laurel or Manu. I hope they see this thread.

2. It is NOT a new thing to have entire threads disappear due to repeated violations. I've had three deleted in my first year - entire threads - because of repeated reports and violations (and they weren't even MY posts!).

Hopefully, this helps.

I'm not complaining about the principle of deleting entire threads. I'm complaining about deleting entire threads that include a lot of posts that DON'T VIOLATE ANY POLICY, just because they share a thread with those that do.

Minimally, everyone should be given a clear warning with enough lead time so they can save things they thought were safely stowed away on Lit.

 

[Britva415]

The point is that posts are being removed that DON'T VIOLATE THE POLICY. That doesn't seem fair. Especially with no warning. That this is being done had to be discovered by users.

Maybe it’s not fair. But something about that thread invited abuse, and I don’t blame the private site proprietors for prioritizing efficiency and deterrence over the time and effort required to suss out individual offenders when some particular thread has a real problem with repeat offenses.

 

[AG31]

And ZERO threads have been removed in accordance with a new nudity policy.

Well, then, how do you explain the deletion of three threads in Fetish & Sexuality Central? See this post.

 

[Britva415]

yone should be given a clear warning with enough lead time so they can save things they thought were safely stowed away on Lit.

I’m sorry, I really am, but this made me laugh right the fuck out loud.

Literotica is not cloud storage with an SLA about recovery. It is not your local hard drive with or without a backup solution implemented. It is not the application files you used to generate the image in the first place, and it is not the optical hardware you downloaded the capture file from.

Anyone entrusting their only copy of their art to a forum thread on Literotica is just too naïve for the 21st century.

 

[AG31]

Maybe it’s not fair. But something about that thread invited abuse, and I don’t blame the private site proprietors for prioritizing efficiency and deterrence over the time and effort required to suss out individual offenders when some particular thread has a real problem with repeat offenses.

It was three threads. See this post.

 

[Britva415]

It was three threads. See this post.

Doesn’t matter. I was using “that” figuratively, as in like “that which.” That one and that one and that one too. And you aren’t even counting the many, many times the same thing has been done in the past, even before the immediately present crackdown and policy statement

The rules haven’t changed, and neither have the available means of enforcement.,

 

[ToPleaseHim]

It was three threads. See this post.

My god. Yes, the threads were deleted. I deleted three threads today. I would have removed them whether Manu’s post was up or not. This is not new. It is obviously new to you and you are very upset. Keep on the attack all you want. I don’t expect it to leave you anything but frustrated.

 

[AG31]

My god. Yes, the threads were deleted. I deleted three threads today. I would have removed them whether Manu’s post was up or not. This is not new. It is obviously new to you and you are very upset. Keep on the attack all you want. I don’t expect it to leave you anything but frustrated.

@Saltfountain seemed to confirm that the new policy was behind the deletions. See this post. They're not a moderator that I know of, but they present themselves as very knowledgeable.

Alert to @Cfnmlover84 who originally noticed the deletions.

 

[Saltfountain]

@Saltfountain seemed to confirm that the new policy was behind the deletions. See this post. They're not a moderator that I know of, but they present themselves as very knowledgeable.

Alert to @Cfnmlover84 who originally noticed the deletions.

No

Yet again he didn't confirm that

He agreed that some posts that some posts that were legal were also deleted when the thread went.

This has been the case under the current rules, previous rules and will be the case under the new rules.

No, I'm not a moderator. Just someone who (and this is radical I'm aware) listens when the mods explain shit like, how the site works and posting rules...

But I will confirm that under the new rules, whatever they are, if a thread is deleted then non offending posts will also go.

You need to read the posting rules. And the site terms of service.

You obviously don't agree with them.

 

[Saltfountain]

@AG31

You weirdly chose to ignore this post, so maybe this will help your understanding...

If people are stupid or arrogant enough to systematically break the rules so constantly and egregiously that the site owners can't be fucked with their behaviour anymore and nuke the thread, that's their perogative.

Yes, some people may lose 'legal' posts because of the actions of others.

But that's no difference to someone calling time on a party because a few people won't stop doing drugs or groping other guests.

 

[Saltfountain]

@AG31

You also completely ignored this post (probably because it answered your question, but in a way you didn't like...)

Ok so maybe this will clear it up..
https://www.literotica.com/stories/tos.php

this is the Tos all lit users agree to when using the website. Which many i am sure do like the windows agreement and scroll to the bottom with out reading it in anyway and saying I agree.

Feel free to take a gander at #13

which states...

13. The webmasters of Literotica reserve the right to remove any content or user from the site for any, or no, reason at anytime.

so...basically you agreed to allowing the people on the site who have the ability to remove things...to remove them in exchange for using the website.

You broke a rule...you got your hand slapped...and again...its their website...if they want to make it so you have to jump through ridiculous hoops to chat or post here...they can...you are using a free service..so maybe juuuuust maybe quit your whining about the completely free service you use which takes quite a bit of effort to upkeep and just go about your day. And if you don't like it....find somewhere else? Not sure what to tell you?

So stamping your feet and bitch all you like...they made a decision and yeah some people don't like it...but well...too bad? Things change...it can't stay the same for ever and you will just have to deal. Because right now all I am seeing is"Back in my day things were like this!" Well its not like that anymore. Deal with it.

I have worked in tech support for many years (almost 20 at this point)...and I have heard it all...and yeah getting comfy is great...but also change will happen especially in websites and technology. Suck it up buttercup.

And to think I used to be the nice chat mod. funny that...

You patently dislike how the site is run, and don't agree with the terms of service that you signed up to.

Got to ask, why are you still here if that's the case?

 

[Saltfountain]

I'm not complaining about the principle of deleting entire threads. I'm complaining about deleting entire threads that include a lot of posts that DON'T VIOLATE ANY POLICY, just because they share a thread with those that do.

Have you actually read what you wrote?

 

[AH_Mod]

I removed the first of these threads from the AH. It had no business there, and also falsely called out someone for something they didn't do. Any other moderator can confirm that your thread now resides within the moderation queue, where I placed it. I will also confirm that the thread you are questioning was not removed by any moderator, because it is not present in the moderation queue. The thread you are protesting was removed by an admin, and you had been informed of such before posting the thread in the AH making the false accusation against a moderator.

Had I come across the repetition of a thread I had removed from the AH, I would have deleted it again, and advanced to the next stage of corrective action as well. Administration moved the thread before I saw it, so it is now wholly within their purview.

 

[Cfnmlover84]

No

Yet again he didn't confirm that

He agreed that some posts that some posts that were legal were also deleted when the thread went.

This has been the case under the current rules, previous rules and will be the case under the new rules.

No, I'm not a moderator. Just someone who (and this is radical I'm aware) listens when the mods explain shit like, how the site works and posting rules...

But I will confirm that under the new rules, whatever they are, if a thread is deleted then non offending posts will also go.

You need to read the posting rules. And the site terms of service.

You obviously don't agree with them.

First of all there were no illegal posts on the mature sexy dressed women thread. I think the thread was deleted by the admins because i pointed out vile transphobic posts that one of the mods posted and they were trying to cover it up.

 

[barefootgirl69]

Edited: I was viewing a different thread.

 

[AG31]

First of all there were no illegal posts on the mature sexy dressed women thread. I think the thread was deleted by the admins because i pointed out vile transphobic posts that one of the mods posted and they were trying to cover it up.

OK, well, much ado about nothing. I had assumed (understandably, I think) that since your report of three deleted threads appeared in a thread titled "Feedback on New Policy Announcement" that you had reason to think they were deleted because some posts violated the new policy.

 

[AG31]

The issue has gone away. Please see edit to the OP.