Dissection of The Slut

[catalina_francisco]

LOL, I am sure anyone who has read any of our stories knows we have a fascination with the slut role, real or otherwise, male or female. Being that as it may, though I have seen the role of slut discussed often as an offshoot or part of another topic, I don't recall it ever being discussed in depth as a topic on it's own here. So here we are.....there are several different themes, questions and/or directions we can take the discussion, all of which float about inside my brain, so I will try and make a start on some of them.

For those who recognise the slut within themselves:

* What is your definition of a slut within the world of D/s and BDSM?

* How deep does it go? Where are your limits?

* What is it which attracts you to the role?

* Do you feel comfortable admitting it, giving it free rein or offering the idea to a Dominant for guidance, exploration, play?

* Does it thrill you, scare you, tempt you to turn fantasy into reality?

* Is there a love/hate relationship with that side of you?


For those who are attracted to or seek the slut in others:

* What is your definition of a slut within the world of D/s and BDSM?

* How far will you take the slut into their own dark desires, or perhaps just your own such desires? Where are your limits?

* What is it which attracts you to those who fit the role or the thought of bringing it out in another?

* Does it feed a need in you, tempt you to test the possibilities?

* Is there a love/hate attraction to the roletype? Jealousy?


For those who are not attracted to either being a slut or being with one:

* What is your definition of a slut within the world of D/s and BDSM?

* What are the biggest detractors?

* Are they related to moral and/or religious beliefs, fears, insecurities, outside influences such as a need to maintain a certain level in the mainstream world?

Catalinahttp://www.smilies4you.de/content/sonstige/c90.gif
..and of course, feel free to post your own questions and discuss freely any thoughts on the topic.

 

[Shadowsdream]

For those who are attracted to or seek the slut in others:

* What is your definition of a slut within the world of D/s and BDSM?

* How far will you take the slut into their own dark desires, or perhaps just your own such desires? Where are your limits?

* What is it which attracts you to those who fit the role or the thought of bringing it out in another?

* Does it feed a need in you, tempt you to test the possibilities?

* Is there a love/hate attraction to the roletype? Jealousy?

1. My definition of a slut within this D/s BDSM world is the man or woman that loses total control over their sexuality at a certain point when they have been turned into a lusting wanting craving throbbing bit of humanity.

2. I will use that slut for My own entertainment whether that be by lending them out for most sexual perversions or showing them the difference between love making and brutality with My strap on. It is quite possible they will experience every kink they have ever fantasized about under My Domination within the guidelines of My own limits which would be children..animals and practicing safe sex.

3. There is an innate honesty in a slut...a vulnerability to expose themselves up to very personal humiliation and My sexual creativity has unlimited possibilities to be sated.

4. No it doesn't feed a need in My but it does offer Me interesting possibilities.

5. No love/hate, just appreciation for the honesty to admit to being such a pervert. Jealousy? I don't understand the relationship - as it could pertain to anyone that I would choose to be Mine. A slut under My control is a man or a woman that obeys and performs for Me and through Me.


Great thread idea!

 

[ownedsubgal]

a very nice topic...

to answer the questions:

*my definition of a slut within D/s is the same as my definition of a slut in general...a sexually promiscuous person (female really...i have a hard time thinking of men as sluts) who really NEEDS sex. this person may not necessarily love sex or enjoy sex, but they need and crave it nonetheless. one who needs and craves sex with one person, is not my idea of a slut.


*how deep does it go? that is hard to answer...a slut is who i am to my very core. what are my limits? now that i'm owned, my limits are whatever Master says they are, obviously.


*what is it that attracts me to the role? well first i don't view it as a role at all, it is simply who/what you are. secondly i can't say i found being a slut as something attractive at all until recently. since i have been sexually active, i have been a slut. however i always loathed this about myself. i hated that i had this need to be sexually used by men, in whatever way they pleased. it was not about my own sexual pleasure for me, it was about being a tool, an object for men's pleasure. i would find myself going to a bar or party that i knew would be full of drunk, horny men in need, just because i knew what they would do to me. i never tried to seduce or attract anyone. i would just be "there", and i never said no. in college, i would find myself calling up men late at night who i KNEW had zero respect for me and who would treat me like crap, because i knew they would fulfill that need of mine to be used. at least for one night. i had a very bad reputation in high school and then in college as a slut. it was well-known that i never had any boyfriends, never went on any dates, but that i was well-acquainted with the interior of the boys restroom. girls saw me as disgusting, always whispering about me and giving me nasty looks wherever i went. obviously this killed any self-esteem i may have had. yet as horrible as being a slut made me feel, i couldn't stop myself. i couldn't stop giving in to men, i couldn't repress that need to be a release for their most primal of desires.

when i entered the lifestyle, the fact that i was a slut was one thing that made my Master desire me for His own. however secretly i still hated that label. i remember once having a seemingly simple assignment, to repeat the phrase "i love being your piece of sh*t slut", 20 times within a 24 hour period. i said it maybe 12 times, full of shame. i had to admit the truth to my Master, that i did not love being a slut, that i thought being a slut made me ugly and dirty and worthless. however i think i have finally reached the point where i am now truly proud to be a slut. the world needs sluts, needs those who are there to fulfill the primal urges of man, without expecting or wanting anything in return. a slut is a beautiful thing to be.

 

[Netzach]

I've got a different spin on this.

I'm a slut, in your basic all american red states estimation.

I am exceptionally happy to be one. I am a woman who fucks on her own terms, when she wants, as much as she wants, who she wants and how she wants.

(translate fuck to your sexual activity of choice for the sake of argument)

Interestingly, I relate to osg on this one. I NEED sex. LOL And I go out and I get me some. I'm finicky but voracious. I have great sex with myself not because I am desperate or hard up, but because I am a perverse fuck and I feel like it.

Being a slut is a powerful and oppositional pleasure for me, in a society that still thinks women should only be sexual in a certain proscribed way.

Men cen definitely be sluts. Let's face it, the big taboo is to be sexually a reciever and to enjoy it, whether you're taking it in the cunt or the ass. I think sluts get in the face of that taboo.

 

[Shadowsdream]

Males are just as slutty as females...thank god!

 

[fallon2]

ownedsubgal

ownedsubgal---Did I date you in high school????? lol

But seriously folks . . . I believe that any woman who needs and truly wants to be treated like a slut should be treated as one but depending on the place and time as well as the situation.

I once knew a true slut but still respected her for honesty in having me address her needs.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Thanks for sharing Shadowsdream, osg, and Netzach....and glad you liked the topic. I find the crediting a slut with honesty an interesting concept Shadowsdream, and one I agree with for those who have reached the point of admitting to themselves and others it is who they are, what they crave to unleash. When I was searching for the one who would own me I had a second profile which blatently admitted the need I had, the desire I had to find one who could not only accept that part of me, but use it against me and for their own amusement. Was stupid having it as a second profile as anyone I was seriously interested in from the first profile was directed to read the other while I waited nervously for their reaction to the perversity of my mind. I guess part of the reason I needed to have both profiles was because in my previous vanilla life, though I had reached a point where I could take what I wanted on my terms I had never found a huge acceptance of this side of me and it was still a little difficult to understand I could be understood, accepted and appreciated for it.

I can so relate to what you say osg. LOL, it was interesting when I had lunch a few years back with one of my close teenage friends who I had lost contact with for many years. She had outright called me a slut in our teens and made it clear I was not equal to her nor was I ever going to come to a good end because of my passion for sex and my pursuit of all things sexual which took my fancy...or not. Over lunch she just blurted out how much she envied me because I had been able to explore sex so freely and outside the realms of what was considered to be in the 'good girl' realm, while she had remained in the society created box and married each man she slept with (2) and been cheated on and lied to by both of them. She found herself wondering and longing to know what it was like to have sex with men you weren't married to, men you didn't even particularly like enough to marry, to just let yourself go with it and experiment.

Netzach, hmmmm, yes it has become obvious I need sex...make me go a day without and I am climbing the walls. I love the fact I am finally in a relationship with someone who does not feel it necessary to pay out on me because they had a great time, does not need to berate and put me down to assuage their own guilt complex, and who can enjoy experimentation in oh so many fun directions while still being able to make me feel humiliation in a good way. And yes, men can make the most delightful sluts especially when dressed in high heels and stockings.

Catalina

 

[ownedsubgal]

fallon2, maybe if you sent a pic with your pants down i may recognize you?? lol

so do most sluts truly love/enjoy sex?? perhaps i'm strange but for me my need for sex has never ever been about any physical pleasure i found in it, as usually i found it to be well...unpleasant. i never had sex because i wanted the sex itself, i had it because i just needed it, needed that kind of use. and the more degrading the experience, the better that need was fulfilled. it's why for a long time, i couldn't imagine being loved by a man who had sex with me. because i saw sex as the anti-love...something you do to/with someone you find lowly and unvaluable beyond that one thing. my philosophy was, if you really loved me, you wouldn't want to have sex with me. sex for me, before i met my Master, has always equated to use, abuse, degradation. my need for sex, my sluttiness, was all really a need to experience those things. and even now that i know what it's like to be truly known and loved, still the slut in me is alive and well, along with her need to be unfeelingly used in every hole by any and every man with a cock in need.

catalina, i too learned after a time that much of the venom sluts receive from so called "good girls" is nothing but envy.

 

[Netzach]

I enjoy sex, yeah. I enjoy the physical and mental process. I like seeing what a new person looks like having an orgasm. It's like excercise, spirituality, and science all in one. I don't find sex inherently degrading or inherently loving or inherently anything, those are all layers we can choose to paint on top of the experience.

I've always equated sex with adoration, desire, attention, fixation, I've always felt like the Queen Bee while getting laid, whether in an active or passive postion, I've gone to great lengths to indulge that little mental image of myself and I don't get off unless it's in place.

 

[A's Sweet Baby]

Oh Catalina,
this is eerie ... i was driving home from work today and thinking about a very similar topic! All my life i have thought of myself as an extremely sexual being. For as long as i can remember, i loved the idea of being used for sex and for another's sexual gratification.... similar to what osg said, not sex for my own sake but sex for theirs. And as i hit early adulthood i started to hide that part of me ... i felt the need to be so prim and proper and respectable ... think soccer mom meets elementary school teacher and you've got me (literally!). And now that i am with Daddy i have been able to embrace so much of what i had buried for so long. I was driving home today (after having a very open weekend with Daddy about my need to have my mouth fucked and for brutal sex) questioning and judging myself so harshly (something i do often). Thinking to myself "What is wrong with me that i feel this over-riding need for sexual use (degradation? humiliation?)." It does feel very "right" to me, but at the same time very wrong (LOL, am i making any sense at all?).

So to answer a few of your questions:
* I don't see it as a role, so much as a deep part of me ... an aspect of my personality, so to speak.
* Love-Hate relationship with that part of me ... for sure! I hate that i feel that way, but love how i feel when i am able to open up and accept that part of me (quite the contrary little thing, aren't i? )
* Definitely the most comfortable sharing that part of me with Daddy and letting him pull from me what i think i want ... his guidance and encouragement and acceptance are helping me to stop judging myself so harshly.
* It goes very deep in me ... my urges and fantasies are extreme, but i am still too inexperienced and tentative to know what i really want in r/l (thankfully Daddy is helping me experiement with everything).

In closing, thanks all (esp. Catalina and osg), i read everyone's posts and have learned so much about myself since joining lit.

 

[catalina_francisco]

catalina, i too learned after a time that much of the venom sluts receive from so called "good girls" is nothing but envy.

LOL, their loss I say!!

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

I enjoy sex, yeah. I enjoy the physical and mental process. I like seeing what a new person looks like having an orgasm. It's like excercise, spirituality, and science all in one. I don't find sex inherently degrading or inherently loving or inherently anything, those are all layers we can choose to paint on top of the experience.

I've always equated sex with adoration, desire, attention, fixation, I've always felt like the Queen Bee while getting laid, whether in an active or passive postion, I've gone to great lengths to indulge that little mental image of myself and I don't get off unless it's in place.

I can identify with much of what you say, but also have the oposing voice which no doubt was borne from my mother's driven views she saw fit to try and ram in our brains that sex is always something to bear (not enjoy) to demonstrate how good a wife you are.....if you enjoy it, or allow another to use you, obviously you are bad. LOL, remember her telling me before my first marriage, and long after she had known a virgin I was no more, that a good wife never took all her clothes off when her husband demanded sex....that was just inviting him to lose all respect for you. But this woman also said giving birth was the most degrading experience you could ever endure.

So in my vanilla days I was driven by my natural instincts which demanded sexual gratification as often as possible. Sometimes I dressed it up for myself to be a fairy tale loving act (hmmmm, even with one night stands.....well she also said it was all men wanted so in a young mind I'm sure there was some message laid there it was the way to find love); or I took charge and as a couple of my partners said, practically raped them with no remorse; or I went out of my way to find men I found unappealing to feed the decadent sluttiness in me. All those elements still remain intact and take turns to come out....gives him plenty of twists to turn the humiliation and degradation levers.

Catalina

 

[catalina_francisco]

Re: Re: Dissection of The Slut

Oh Catalina,
this is eerie ... i was driving home from work today and thinking about a very similar topic! All my life i have thought of myself as an extremely sexual being. For as long as i can remember, i loved the idea of being used for sex and for another's sexual gratification.... similar to what osg said, not sex for my own sake but sex for theirs. And as i hit early adulthood i started to hide that part of me ... i felt the need to be so prim and proper and respectable ... think soccer mom meets elementary school teacher and you've got me (literally!). And now that i am with Daddy i have been able to embrace so much of what i had buried for so long. I was driving home today (after having a very open weekend with Daddy about my need to have my mouth fucked and for brutal sex) questioning and judging myself so harshly (something i do often). Thinking to myself "What is wrong with me that i feel this over-riding need for sexual use (degradation? humiliation?)." It does feel very "right" to me, but at the same time very wrong (LOL, am i making any sense at all?).

So to answer a few of your questions:
* I don't see it as a role, so much as a deep part of me ... an aspect of my personality, so to speak.
* Love-Hate relationship with that part of me ... for sure! I hate that i feel that way, but love how i feel when i am able to open up and accept that part of me (quite the contrary little thing, aren't i? )
* Definitely the most comfortable sharing that part of me with Daddy and letting him pull from me what i think i want ... his guidance and encouragement and acceptance are helping me to stop judging myself so harshly.
* It goes very deep in me ... my urges and fantasies are extreme, but i am still too inexperienced and tentative to know what i really want in r/l (thankfully Daddy is helping me experiement with everything).

In closing, thanks all (esp. Catalina and osg), i read everyone's posts and have learned so much about myself since joining lit.

I remember being at war within for years about the way I felt...the fed belief it was a sacred act and only bad girls wanted it, and the part of me that had very deep, dark desires I knew would never be accepted by many. LOL, even had one boyfriend in my teens threaten to tell my parents I had allowed him to seduce me and of course being a good boy he stopped before committing a sin. That didn't make me near as angry as the ones who enjoyed every moment, said they had never had such great sex, but then condemn me for being sexual.....and worse still, they were the ones who tended to come back begging for more and then give the same lecture again if they got lucky.

Master loves the part of me that cannot deny my desires and has led me to him. He gets to play with the residual left overs of so much crap fed into my brain it still lurks deep at times and serves to bring out elements he loves to mindfuck with, while still enjoying the benefits of my out of control sexuality that demands to be fed in whatever way he is willing to indulge it. Makes for some interesting scenarios.

Catalina

 

[crazybbwgirl]

Wow - so many of us. I too am a slut (somehow feel like I'm at an AA meeting - lol) I can remember always wanting to know more about sex, trying to talk boys into touching me - or let me touch them, trying to give a boy a blow job (maybe 6th grade) and have him push me away in fear. Then when the boys finally caught up with me (or did I just move on to older boys?) the mixed messages. "You're soooo sexy" on the one hand and "You're such a slut" on the other. But I never really felt bad about being a slut - I felt I had just as much right to have sex as the boys did and fuck anyone who thought less of me because of it!

But it did lead to years of very shallow relationships - imagine on the one hand I'm still looking for a husband. Because I was divorced with 2 kids and my parents said I needed one. Yet not playing the 'good girl wifey' role that most men look for in a partner. So you end up with very sexual - yet mainly shallow relationships. It wasn't until recently that I started meeting men (older, more secure) who could love me deeply and accept my sluttiness without passing judgement or feeling insecure.

Once I started exploring bsmd I realized I was home. This is what I'd been looking for all those years. To me a slut is someone who knows what she wants sexually and will do whatever it takes to get it - even - or especially- if what she wants is to be used as a sexual object.

I'm not sure what my limits are - yet.... need more experience first. Its not a 'role' as such - its who I am. I get more and more comfortable with my inner slut as the years go by. Which makes me want/try even harder to make my fantasies and desires come true. The only 'love/hate' thing I got going on is my vanilla relationship and the hardship it causes in the exploration of my submissive side.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Great thread, Catalina.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

For love of sluts

As a man and a Dominant, there is a certain appreciation for sluts. First of all I love that she has owned her sexuality and chosen to do with it as she wills. No mores or social concerns, but her desire to be her.

Secondly sluts are more willing to explore, to take a risk, to try something new much more so than good girls are. To find that they enjoy anal as much if not more than vaginal, to take pride in developing their own technique of oral and to learn to read a partner and make him feel like the most special person in teh world because she can.

Perhaps teh greatest adoration of a slut is just that, that she knows how to make a lover feel incredible. She has learned and studied and practiced, and in a bdsm relationship she brings all of that to lay at the feet of Dom/me as offering. Past shame and past glory, perfected thrills and hunger for the next horizon, all to bring pleasure to that One that they serve.

Yes Virginia, the world needs more sluts. I for one love them dearly for what they bring to the world.

SH

 

[FreeGal]

Re: For love of sluts

Wonderful thread, Catalina.

I am a slut, and very proud of the fact (as you can all probably tell from my AV!). But, my true sluttiness has only ever been brought out of me by one man, and it's only that one man that I am a slut for. I truly love and enjoy sex, and get never get enough of it with him (poor Bloke ).

For those who recognise the slut within themselves:

* What is your definition of a slut within the world of D/s and BDSM?
To me, it is someone (usually a woman, although men can be sluts, too) who loves, or even needs, raw, dirty sex, often insatiably so. It is someone who loves to please their partner and will usually do whatever they ask (in a loving, trusting relationship).

* How deep does it go? Where are your limits?
It goes pretty deep in me. I don't really have any limits - within a consenting adult relationship. I've had many what some might see as dark and twisted fantasies for years, and I have finally been able to live some of them out. I'd previously thought that most people would be shocked by how far I wanted to go. Luckily, FreeBloke wasn't and isn't.

* What is it which attracts you to the role?
I don't see it as being attracted to a "role" as such, it is just me and who I am, and how I love to be.

* Do you feel comfortable admitting it, giving it free rein or offering the idea to a Dominant for guidance, exploration, play?
Oh yes, very much so. Within my relationship with my Dom, I give it a completely free reign, and he is very happy to explore it with me and take me to places I'd never dared dream of before.

* Does it thrill you, scare you, tempt you to turn fantasy into reality?
It thrills me, no end. I have turned fantasy into reality on several occassions, and there is still so much more I want to do and try. I have a very strong feeling I will.

* Is there a love/hate relationship with that side of you?
No, not at all. I have never felt ashamed of the way I am. Maybe because on the face of it I'm a "normal" woman. I've never slept around, so I'm not a slut in that respect. I'm a slut for one man, and one man only. If he wants me to be a slut for other men (or women), too, then I'd be more than happy with that, because I am his to do with as he pleases, and that thrills me one hell of a lot. That's how deep it runs in me.

Thanks, Catalina.

FreeGal

P.S. Great post, Salvor-Hardon.

 

[pandoravampire]

A Slut in a bdsm framework, is a creature in its best environment id say. Nowhere else have i heard of, whereby a stereotype role can be so easily indulged, used, abused and then get up and walk away from the 'user' THEIR needs satiated - for now.

Slut. I admire these characters. Their honesty is so bloody raw and refreshing. Their sexuality is so inherantly them. It is perhaps the one role, where its always going to be true. You get wannabe's in other areas, not so the slut. She/he just is. They cant help themselves.

I see two types of slut, the one who uses sex to gratify her own sexual desires. The other type is a creature with poor self esteem, who's sluttish behaviour is a self induced punishment. One is a victim and destructive, the other a goddes/god. I do see progression in maturity from one to the other sometimes.

Being a slut is my first true mistress. It is because of her (me) that i will go to the lengths i will sexually.
When im horny, i can justify anything.
When im horny i will hunt.
My slut is a sexual predator.
I accept this.

Its primordial, its raw lust, given a free reign it knows no bounds. to either what i will do to get myself off, or allow another to get them off. Being slutty, indulges the 'used' aspect very nicely indeedy. Not only being used, but using others. To me, being in slut mode reminds me of younger days high on Coke, i can concquer anything, and i will. It is a life force to be reckoned with.


Im old enough to of been brought up to be a proper lady. And i can never thank my mother enough for that. Because that is what i am, outside. But ive always known that inside, is a seething, undulating, screaming if not satiated SLUT.
I like the juxtaposition of both roles within me. I feel sorry for girls today who miss out on the 'nice girls dont' fantasy. I also feel sorry for future sluts, as they wont be so very different from the norm perhaps?

I adore sex, any sex. And i will have it. Everyday alone or with another, until the day i no longer crave it. Sex IS art, it feeds me so much.

The very best sexual encounters of being a slut for me, have been when im with another slut! Oh my god, how depraved can that get! Its the best. Two gibbering wrecks, excellent stuff.

Also, from another perspective, its a constant for me. Within the bdsm their are many shifs for me, as i grow, change, develop. But slut, well, she's always by my side, reassuringly ready.
But even this raises the questions in my head, 'who' in my sub role now, am i being a slut for? Him, or me? but thats another thread.

An excellent thread this one.

 

[Esclava]

I hate the label...

...but must own it to be at peace with who I am.

I have an orgasm, at least, twice daily. Sometimes more than that. More often than not, I use the memories in my mind of service to my o/l PYLs to arouse and push me over the edge. Reading this thread has opened my eyes to how truly voracious and insatiable my appetite is.

Master calls me his cum-slut often; I don't like the label, but what am I to do about it? I have learned to compartmentalize it like the word "whore." For me, those 2 words don't seem to be associated with shame and/or guilt - they make me angry. They are words used as hurled epithets to humiliate and degrade.

Why do they make me feel anger? I believe it is because when someone else tries to label me as a slut or whore, I feel they are labeling me as something they believe is true - which society has, historically, associated with promiscuity and shame. In short, they are trying to change me into something to fit their perception of who/what THEY think I am - to humiliate me.

My advice? Don't call me either one - it doesn't work for me - unless you want a sharp-clawed, eyes spitting fire, dark-skinned tigress on your hands ...

If one who:

• *has a voracious and insatiable sexual appetite;
  *responds to that appetite on her own time - in her own way;
  *becomes like a caged animal when denied response to that appetite; and
  *truly enjoys each and every act which brings that appetite under submission

is a slut, then I would be a slut by that definition. I don't happen to subscribe to the assertion that it is an accurate label for a B.I.T.C.H. (Babe In Total Control of Herself). It will take a Dom/me of great substance - to label me as their slut - and transform the anger into submission.

Esclava

 

[Netzach]

That's cool. I also happen to think that slut is one of the most over used submissive personae in the scene.

I also enjoy good girls and boys who are useful in patently non sexual ways, and people who don't need their sexual lust rubbed in their face, that's just dandy.

 

[Pure]

2 cents:

Esclave hints at something,

Esclava:
//[Slut] Is one who:

*has a voracious and insatiable sexual appetite;
*responds to that appetite on her own time - in her own way; //

Pandora sees two types:

I see two types of slut, the one who uses sex to gratify her own sexual desires. The other type is a creature with poor self esteem, who's sluttish behaviour is a self induced punishment. One is a victim and destructive, the other a goddess/god.

-----

I see two also, the independent 'voracious' sexual person who indulges his/her appetities freely. Super sado-slut as Netzach describes.

I see also one with a overwhelming sexual need (or need that is manifest sexually) such that the person becomes subject to the arbitrary use and abuse of another, and that person revels in it. Possibly to their detriment as Pandora has it. I'd call this the maso-slut.

IOW, her (or his) need becomes an avenue of enslavement and degradation. (It seems Pandora disapproves of this, or of an extreme 'self destructive' version of this; I remain neutral, but fascinated.)

 

[ownedsubgal]

2 cents:

Esclave hints at something,

Esclava:
//[Slut] Is one who:

*has a voracious and insatiable sexual appetite;
*responds to that appetite on her own time - in her own way; //

Pandora sees two types:

I see two types of slut, the one who uses sex to gratify her own sexual desires. The other type is a creature with poor self esteem, who's sluttish behaviour is a self induced punishment. One is a victim and destructive, the other a goddess/god.

-----

I see two also, the independent 'voracious' sexual person who indulges his/her appetities freely. Super sado-slut as Netzach describes.

I see also one with a overwhelming sexual need (or need that is manifest sexually) such that the person becomes subject to the arbitrary use and abuse of another, and that person revels in it. Possibly to their detriment as Pandora has it. I'd call this the maso-slut.

IOW, her (or his) need becomes an avenue of enslavement and degradation. (It seems Pandora disapproves of this, or of an extreme 'self destructive' version of this; I remain neutral, but fascinated.)

well slap my face and call me a maso-slut.

i do agree that there are indeed two basic, very different types of sluts. and i admit i'm fascinated by that "other" kind of slut...the slut who owns her sexuality, who is driven to satiate their own lusts, on their own terms.

 

[Pure]

thanks osg. i always learn from your postings.
in fact, you are the reason i inserted the little nuance
"(or need that is manifest sexually)"

 

[FungiUg]

I see two also, the independent 'voracious' sexual person who indulges his/her appetities freely. Super sado-slut as Netzach describes.

While my own thinking largely follows Pure's summation, I don't necessarily agree with the linkage to sado- or masoch-.

I have met several "sluts" who are neither.

I myself would probably fall into the "sado-slut" role.

Also, there's a third meaning to the word which I don't think has been covered, and that's the humourous, self-dreprecating usage. I mean, which of the women out there won't coffess to being a chocolate slut? Me, I'm a snuggle slut, as is my lover.

 

[Esclava]

<-----IS a White Chocolate slut...

I agree there are, at least, two distinctly different types of sexual sluts and probably many more.

There ARE those sluts who own their own sexuality – on their own terms - who take their pleasure where they find it, or make their pleasure when they need it. But, doesn’t that crash head-on into the D/s dynamic?

I don’t believe so. While these two types (the ones who own their sexuality; and the ones driven by their sexuality to be used by others) are priceless to those who desire them, the sluts who own their own sexuality must be willing to give up that ownership to another if they are going to surrender to One who is dominant. They MUST know what it is that drives their submissiveness in order to match up with One who can dominate them effectively.

We speak regularly about PYLs and pyls. IMO, it takes a strong PYL to dominate a strong pyl. And, I believe, it will take a strong PYL to dominate a pyl slut who owns their sexuality – because said pyl slut will NOT give up that ownership (easily or permanently) to One who is not strong enough to secure it.

There is a pyl slut (by her own admission) here who owned her sexuality and knew exactly what drove her submissiveness. She sought out One who matched her perfectly and they are so, ecstatically, happy – it makes me want to cry in celebration for them.

Their relationship keeps the fire of hope alive in me…

Esclava