Disappointments................

[Native Alien]

oh yea we are, just trying to finger out what to do about it is all.

trying to finger out how to get the truth out of most men and as

to the disappointmentsm well the hits just keep on coming.


notice i did say most men and not "all" men.

i think that you two are rarer than you know and more the

exception rather than the rule.

 

[bashfull]

oh yea we are, just trying to finger out what to do about it is all.

trying to finger out how to get the truth out of most men and as

to the disappointmentsm well the hits just keep on coming.


notice i did say most men and not "all" men.

i think that you two are rarer than you know and more the

exception rather than the rule.

Well, if I wasn't so rare, then perhaps women would stop laughing at me when I dropped my trousers. Seriously, there are a few out there who don't play games (at least not the type you loathe). Just keep looking and letting it be known that you are looking. As for the rest of the time, ahem....Fuck 'em.



Bash

 

[~Dream~]

Well, if I wasn't so rare, then perhaps women would stop laughing at me when I dropped my trousers. Seriously, there are a few out there who don't play games (at least not the type you loathe). Just keep looking and letting it be known that you are looking. As for the rest of the time, ahem....Fuck 'em.



Bash

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LEAVIN KISSES FOR YA SEXY ..MMMM

**Native hun ?? good luck and he gives good advice , listen ..

 

[Native Alien]

that is just the problem bashful, i can't find em to fuck em...

like this week, put out a lot of energy and effort to no good reward. i feel like i was lied to. why? simply because i didn't have all the facts about things that could and did distract him. all i ask for is 100% of someone's undivided attention when they are with me. if there is a reason that they might not be give that to me, then they should be person enough to say so. that way i can decide whether to go thru with whatever or to reschedule things. in my mind that is the only fair and honest thing to do.

 

[mayi]

Well, if I wasn't so rare, then perhaps women would stop laughing at me when I dropped my trousers. Seriously, there are a few out there who don't play games (at least not the type you loathe). Just keep looking and letting it be known that you are looking. As for the rest of the time, ahem....Fuck 'em.



Bash

i guess if you kiss enough toads you will find a prince, but do you realize how BAD a toad tastes??

ing bashfull.....hoping he is not a toad

 

[Native Alien]

i couldn't have said it any better mayi...

and that is exactly what i mean.....

and yes, a for the bashful....

 

[mayi]

NA...........do we set ourselves up to be disappointed......in our minds do we make the person better then they really are?

this is such a tough way to really get to know a person. we can pick and choose what we see and don't see, we can read a message and not understand the full meaning and we can hurt without ever knowing.

how can one go beyond what is offered here by a person to what is real about that person? everyone here has a streak of trust and a willingness to accept things they would not normally accept, but away from here we are different. is it the computer that changes us?

 

[Native Alien]

i don't think so mayi...i think that we believe what others tell us and then they are either downright dishonest or at the very least not totally forthright. that is what happened to me. had the other person been totally forthright, i could have then made a decision to either continue on with the plans that were made or to reschedule for a time when i could have at least had a shot at finding out if they were all they said they were.

i realize that there are times when we all have alot going on. i have actually changed dates because i knew that i would be distracted and wouldn't be able to give them my full attention. to me that is only fair and being honest. i don't have to go into details just let them know that i have something else going on that may affect the way that i am with them.

 

[mayi]

to be honest...........i have found very few on here that totally live up to what they post.........am i any different?......i hope that i am honest and caring to everyone. i will tell you what you don't want to hear........but it will be how i feel. if i say something, i will stand by it. i wonder if that is more of a trait in women then in men.......?

this is heaven and hell in one place.

 

[Native Alien]

in my honest opinion, yea it is a trait found more in women than in men.

i have found the same thing to be true, that few are what they appear to be on here at least. i have met with several and i find that as a general rule the women are by far, more open and honest.

 

[gottaBme]

Agreeing with ya there Native......

 

[Native Alien]

i kinda figured that ya might gotta...

 

[bashfull]

i guess if you kiss enough toads you will find a prince, but do you realize how BAD a toad tastes??

ing bashfull.....hoping he is not a toad

Ribbit..Ribbit. I've been uncloaked! Ribbit.



Bash

 

[mayi]

Ribbit..Ribbit. I've been uncloaked! Ribbit.



Bash

*giggle*........very nice

 

[Native Alien]

ahhh...man, bashful i could have went all night and all day without that....

believe me i have kissed enough frogs to last me a lifetime lately.

 

[bashfull]

ahhh...man, bashful i could have went all night and all day without that....

believe me i have kissed enough frogs to last me a lifetime lately.

My apologies, darlin'. Didn't mean to drudge up unpleasant memories. Merely attempting to lighten the mood with brevity.



Bash

 

[bashfull]

*giggle*........very nice

Hmmm...is someone ticklish?



Bash

 

[Native Alien]

it is one of those, "i mean what i say and say what i mean" things mayi. i think that it is more a female trait than a male trait and perhaps it comes from the more nuturing side of a female.

i mean think about it. one needs to be very honest with small children (no, i am not comparing men to small children). but you have to be honest when answering their questions. so that may be where it comes from in women.

 

[mayi]

but if we are honest with our children, then men should know to be honest. it is not like we treat boys different then we treat girls. i think it is more of a case where men don't want to think with the right head. now that is something to ponder.......why do men have two heads when they have no idea how to control one and why don't women have two, when all we do it put up with men's un-used one all the time?

 

[mayi]

Hmmm...is someone ticklish?



Bash

not here.............

 

[Native Alien]

i hear ya mayi, i hear ya...

 

[bashfull]

Humor aside

It is my belief that most men lack the self confidence to be open and honest. Many men fail to meet their own standards so they cannot fathom meeting the standards of another...especially someone who is confident and self aware. It is my contention that is why most men find an honest, confident, intelligent, and sexually uninhibited woman so intimidating.

Men are raised on posturing. Beating our chest, clenching our fists, raising our voices...all are meant to mask our fears and cause "flight" in those that intimidate us. Interesting to note that this also the way that nature teaches us to attract a female.

Posturing, boasting, etc. Equivilent to bluffing. When the bluff is called and it's time to show the cards, most men are afraid of what they are holding.

In the end, it all boils down to ego...or lack thereof.

Just my 2 cents.



Bash

 

[Native Alien]

Okay bashful, but why would they promise the moon when they know that it is impossible for them to deliver?

that is the part of this all that most women don't understand.
i mean, we know that that they can't and i think that we really don't expect them too. what i do expect is for him to be honest with me about things that might cause a problem and then allow me the decision of what to do.

 

[RomanHans]

Okay bashful, but why would they promise the moon when they know that it is impossible for them to deliver?

that is the part of this all that most women don't understand.
i mean, we know that that they can't and i think that we really don't expect them too. what i do expect is for him to be honest with me about things that might cause a problem and then allow me the decision of what to do.

Thanks, Bash, for the skillful (and perceptive) indictment of our entire gender. I'm sure that I for one have been guilty of that kind of hubris from time to time.

Native, I can't speak for those who tell really tall tales over the 'Net (that's an activity that I don't understand either), but it's possible that the medium seduces those already inclined to lie to inflate themselves to an even greater extent--after all, as long as the relationship is 'virtual,' who would know the difference? Then, when the time comes for a face-2-face mtg, I'm sure that guys would rather try to bull their way through the lie rather than face the embarrassment of admitting their deception.

Oh, and of course, there are always that subset of men who are just plain evil and misogynistic, but we probably all realize that they exist!

Not an excuse, BTW, just a possible explanation. I have a feeling that if men are particularly guilty of this, as Bash says, the root causes are more social and psychological than biological.

Roman

 

[Native Alien]

Roman, good morning, first of all. i just can't seem to get it thru the thick skull that not everyone is as honest and open about things as i am.

while i agree with your way of thinking, i don't agree that it is right. i would think that people would want to be as honest as possible, due to the possibility of face to face meeting that might happen. one would think that they would look at it in this light, instead of the other way round.