Different kind of pain?

gerste89

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My pain tolerance is very high (and also my pride), and so I never give my partner the satisfaction to see me in tears.

To be honest I have to admit that sometimes (especially when he uses a big paddle) a few small tears can be produced, but not enough to run down my cheeks, and I always manage to hide them.

He is frustrated (a little bit...) and always complains that others subs cry more easily (I know it is not true).

But two days ago I tripped over a stone and fell to the ground with a broken ankle.
As I told my pain tolerance is very high and also in this case I didn't whant to look weak. For this reason I clenched my teeth as much as I could and I managed not to moan loud during the trip to the ER.

But there a sadistic doctor started shaking my foot until I couldn't help a loud scream and then, in spite of my efforts, I started crying.

I'm sure that the pain wasn't worse then what I feel during a heavy session, but this time I broke down, even if I didn't whant.

At the end I was a little bit disappointed by my weakness (and very angry with the doctor...).
But probably there is pain and pain. The one produced for fun (even if excruciating) doesn't make me cry, but the other can hurt more.

Am I right?
 
firstly - OUCH! and hope it heals soon and secondly, I think there is a huge (spelt hooooooooooooooooooooooje) difference between the mindset and tolerance level when playing and when suddenly subjected to an unauthorised and uncontrolable pain.
 
You are completely right.

I have a high tolerance to pleasurable pain but it's completely different to other pain that I've experienced. The emotional connection I have with Master and the sexual pleasure we both get through my masochism are powerful aphrodisiacs and alter my tolerance immeasurably.

If Master paddles me because he wants us both to enjoy ourselves and sexual play is involved, it feels amazing. OTOH, if he uses the exact same paddle because he's displeased and disappointed, it hurts like hell because I am unable to derive any enjoyment, arousal or sense of service from it.

I have broken my right ankle twice during my adult life and I am here to tell you that it did absolutely nothing for me. Hurt so badly, even when I was trying to be brave like you. It's just not the same thing at all.
 
i get askedquestions similiar to this by the friends who know im a massochist. i try to explain this way.

take the case of a little kid walking on the sidewalk. he trips, he falls, he scrapes his knee. it hurts. he is unhappy. mabye he cries. not good pain.

same kid, but this time playing with his friends. its a game he really likes and doesnt want to miss out on. hes having a lot of fun. he trips, he falls, he scrapes his knee. he recognizes the pain, he is unhappy, but he really likes this game and his mind if on playing with his friends. different kind of pain.
 
My pain tolerance is very high (and also my pride), and so I never give my partner the satisfaction to see me in tears.

To be honest I have to admit that sometimes (especially when he uses a big paddle) a few small tears can be produced, but not enough to run down my cheeks, and I always manage to hide them.

He is frustrated (a little bit...) and always complains that others subs cry more easily (I know it is not true).

But two days ago I tripped over a stone and fell to the ground with a broken ankle.
As I told my pain tolerance is very high and also in this case I didn't whant to look weak. For this reason I clenched my teeth as much as I could and I managed not to moan loud during the trip to the ER.

But there a sadistic doctor started shaking my foot until I couldn't help a loud scream and then, in spite of my efforts, I started crying.

I'm sure that the pain wasn't worse then what I feel during a heavy session, but this time I broke down, even if I didn't whant.

At the end I was a little bit disappointed by my weakness (and very angry with the doctor...).
But probably there is pain and pain. The one produced for fun (even if excruciating) doesn't make me cry, but the other can hurt more.

Am I right?

I agree with everyone that there is pain and then there is pain. The setting and mind set make a HUGE difference.

However, did you have a typo up there? Did you really mean to say that what your PYL said about other subs crying more easily is what you believe to be false? Cause that makes no sense to me.

You've already said your pride is your high pain tolerance. Due to that you refuse to cry even though you sometimes do and HIDE it and even though your PYL wants you to. Perhaps you need to work on the pride thing a bit?

A doctor shaking a foot while there is a broken ankle sounds like a doctor asking for a lawsuit to me. WTF??

Anyway, I hope you feel better soon.

:rose:
 
You know I was thinking about this exact same question today whilst I was at work (slow day).

I was asking myself why it is that I crave to have the living shit carved out of me, but cryed like a total girl when I shattered my heels (on two seperate occasions, dumbass).

Truth is (I think) a maso knows their body pretty well, and knows whether, regardless of the strength of the pain, the injury is going to be an overall very inconvinient one. I still have trouble walking after being on my feet all day and it happened three years ago.

Here's another thing. It wasn't inflicted by choice. When you're playing, you're ready for it and the brain has amazing coping mechanisms, if prepared.

I don't cry either but I scream my head off, crying is more of an emotional response to me than a physical one. I'm more likely to cry because I won't see him until next week. But at least the screaming is a pay off for him, the louder I scream, the better he's doing I suppose, otherwise he might get bored.

Bottom line, if I know it's gonna be detrimental to my long term health, then there's no way that I'll turn my pain response off, it's not a successful action. (;)).

Happy flogging, KK.
 
PS If you check out any vidoes of Bob Flanagan- super masochist, such as the NIN film clip for Happiness in slavery http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5akw3rUSMV8&feature=related
(thanks Milaydee L) you'll see that not only is he waaaay more masochistic than most (apparently it's all real except for the death part). But he cries and screams and those tears are very real.
The man is a dead set inspiration!:heart:RIP
KK
 
I think it's likely that what caused you to cry with your ankle was a combination of emotion about the incident - not just the pain. Hurting yourself in that way sucks. It's not something you seek out or get enjoyment from. And it's certainly going to make things unpleasant in the near future. Playing in a controlled atmosphere makes it easier to control oneself, like tears.
 
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