Did the Kennedys kill Marilyn?

[JohnnySavage]

He was off'd two weeks after I was born.

I can imagine the Good Lord looking down upon the Earth from his perch and thinking upon the death of JFK, "It's ok, Johnny is here now"

 

[Champakian]

Lol...

 

[FataMorgana]

No. The kid was a mess. If you read the stories with all who worked with her on 'The Misfits' you'll see how she wasn't for this world much longer with state-of-mind and lifestyle. Besides, not the Kennedys' style

I think it's exactly the Kennedys style.

 

[rockcasbah]

She slayed me in that happy birthday mister president dress.

 

[FataMorgana]

She slayed me in that happy birthday mister president dress.

Some fella bought that for 5 million in 2016. I think they had to sew her into it if I remember correctly.

I do find her endlessly fascinating.

 

[pink]

She was sooooooo beautiful when she was young. I love looking at young pics of her.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Mate of mine got the shit kicked out of him in a pub in Ireland for wearing this tee shirt:

https://muzikercdn.com/uploads/products/3415/341555/thumb_d_gallery_base_82523c57.jpg

Growing up a punk rock kid, I never liked DK, Circle Jerks, or the Pistols. The Exploited, GBH, Social D, and the local punk scene were my thing. Tons of killer bands played in a repurposed skating rink down the street from me.

The dang Circle Jerks just announced a tour.

 

[juttjaw]

Growing up a punk rock kid, I never liked DK, Circle Jerks, or the Pistols. The Exploited, GBH, Social D, and the local punk scene were my thing. Tons of killer bands played in a repurposed skating rink down the street from me.

The dang Circle Jerks just announced a tour.

If you werent young and angsty in the late 70s and early 80s, those 3 were pretty much a novelty by the time i was 14. Like my daughter wearing a Nirvana tshirt now. She has no clue about what it was about back then, even if she grew up listening to it. Hell, i was even young to get it back in the beginning.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

If you werent young and angsty in the late 70s and early 80s, those 3 were pretty much a novelty by the time i was 14. Like my daughter wearing a Nirvana tshirt now. She has no clue about what it was about back then, even if she grew up listening to it. Hell, i was even young to get it back in the beginning.

I had (way) older siblings and grew up on Sabbath, punk, and Zep.

Take away her Hot Topic gift cards.

 

[Chernosoth]

Did a fan of Marilyn kill JFK?

 

[rae121452]

She was sooooooo beautiful when she was young. I love looking at young pics of her.

i think she was beautiful till the day she died. photos of her from 'something's got to give', the last uncompleted movie are breathtaking. different from when she was younger but still the most beautiful woman.

 

[rae121452]

Some fella bought that for 5 million in 2016. I think they had to sew her into it if I remember correctly.

I do find her endlessly fascinating.

she is endlessly fascinating. proof is the fact that people are still talking about her and studying her. they say she never took a bad photo, that you could snap her from any angle and she still was beautiful.

and that dress....i think it was jean louis (?) who designed it? he had done the same dress for marlene dietrich to wear in her stage shows and called it the nude dress. they did sew her into it, sans underwear or foundation garments. that's all her. supposedly she didn't like it because it took so long to get her out of it.

 

[rae121452]

Some fella bought that for 5 million in 2016. I think they had to sew her into it if I remember correctly.

I do find her endlessly fascinating.

the other thing about that dress-i have this recurring nightmare fantasy of some ugly old drag queen wearing it in front of a mirror and singing 'happy....birthday....to.....you....." it ought to be in a museum. maybe the smithsonian can get ahold of it and put it on display when they finally exhibit jackie's pink suit.

 

[thør]

she is endlessly fascinating. proof is the fact that people are still talking about her and studying her. they say she never took a bad photo, that you could snap her from any angle and she still was beautiful.

and that dress....i think it was jean louis (?) who designed it? he had done the same dress for marlene dietrich to wear in her stage shows and called it the nude dress. they did sew her into it, sans underwear or foundation garments. that's all her. supposedly she didn't like it because it took so long to get her out of it.

Prolly looked like shit thrown down on the floor just inside the doorway.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

I think they did.

I've never had much of an opinion on the matter. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they executed her. I also wouldn't be surprised to learn that she died of a drug overdose. Do you or does anyone else have any factual documentation in support of the point that they did kill her? Please excuse my innocence on the subject. My generation but I plead ignorant of the facts.

 

[FataMorgana]

I've never had much of an opinion on the matter. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they executed her. I also wouldn't be surprised to learn that she died of a drug overdose. Do you or does anyone else have any factual documentation in support of the point that they did kill her? Please excuse my innocence on the subject. My generation but I plead ignorant of the facts.

Ha! No, I don't have evidence! The book is written by an ex cop who had access to the OCID files and excerpts from her diary. When I get to the "murder" bit I'll post more. At the mo it's gearing up to that bit. She sang to him, he ditched her and blocked her calls, now she's shagging Bobby.

The Sinatra bits are interesting too. After too being ditched by JFK he took a hammer and smashed up the heliport he'd built him. I always thought they'd dropped him due to his Mob connections but apparently he was wiretapped and they found out he was shagging Pat Lawford only to get closer to them. He was caught saying "I'll sleep with this bitch til I get something going".

 

[FataMorgana]

the other thing about that dress-i have this recurring nightmare fantasy of some ugly old drag queen wearing it in front of a mirror and singing 'happy....birthday....to.....you....." it ought to be in a museum. maybe the smithsonian can get ahold of it and put it on display when they finally exhibit jackie's pink suit.

Who has the suit!

 

[FataMorgana]

So according to this book (read this before though in others) Marilyn was invited to Cal Neva a few days before she died. Sinatra was furious at her "shooting her mouth off" about the Kennedys when drunk. Apparently then she was taken into another room and raped by Sam Giancana and Sinatra. There are photos of this the author says, and it appears MM was heavily drugged and the next day wasn't sure if she'd had sex or not according to her diary.

She was put on a plane by Lawford and sent home. She was livid and spoke openly then about being used by both brothers and was going to call a press conference to reveal this and all the top secret stuff they'd shared with her. JFK had discussed Castro etc with her.

Bobby had denied being there when she died and claimed he was in LA but in this book are copies of FBI documents re the wire taps proving he was present when she died. And he was pulled up by a cop a few hours after her death going the wrong way to the airport driven by a speeding Lawford.

 

[Conager]

I do a JFK impression:

"Hey, Bobby. . .How's Maawalyn?"

 

[rae121452]

Who has the suit!

the smithsonian has it now, it went to them after jackie's death with the stipulation that they can't exhibit for something like 100 years. she kept it all of those years, with the brains and blood still on it, in a box in her bedroom closet.

 

[FataMorgana]

the smithsonian has it now, it went to them after jackie's death with the stipulation that they can't exhibit for something like 100 years. she kept it all of those years, with the brains and blood still on it, in a box in her bedroom closet.

God that's weird, that she kept it.

 

[JohnnySavage]

God that's weird, that she kept it.

When Jacqueline Kennedy finally removed her suit the following morning, her maid folded it and placed it in a box. Some days after the assassination this box was dispatched to Kennedy's mother, Janet Lee Auchincloss, who wrote "November 22nd 1963" on the top of the box and stored it in her attic.[6] Eventually the box was given to the National Archives in Maryland, together with an unsigned note bearing the Auchincloss letterhead stationery. The note read: "Jackie's suit and bag worn Nov. 22, 1963".[12] The suit, which was never cleaned,[6] is kept out of public view in "an acid-free container in a windowless room ... the precise location is kept secret. The temperature hovers between 65 and 68 °F (18 and 20 °C); the humidity is 40 percent; the air is changed six times an hour."[1

That's what the wickedpedia says.

 

[colddiesel]

She was sooooooo beautiful when she was young. I love looking at young pics of her.

Weird that the two women in recent times who have been almost consumed by their own mythologies died violent deaths. Both were 36.

Had they survived, Marilyn would be 95 and Diana 60; but would their myths have survived without their deaths?

 

[mayfly13]

So Marilyn was killed by Kennedy's to cover for Kennedy's shady practices
and then Kennedy was killed by the Deep State to cover for the Deep State's shady practices.

My dad, who used to read History and memoirs, once said that being off'd by CIA, KGB, MI5 etc. if you posed a risk were not uncommon practices.
You read about all these potential whistleblowers suddenly dying in car accidents, suicides or muggings gone wrong in the US. Or Russian disidents suddenly developing aggressive, terminal cancers. Many are coincidental, but not all of them.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Ha! No, I don't have evidence! The book is written by an ex cop who had access to the OCID files and excerpts from her diary. When I get to the "murder" bit I'll post more. At the mo it's gearing up to that bit. She sang to him, he ditched her and blocked her calls, now she's shagging Bobby.

The Sinatra bits are interesting too. After too being ditched by JFK he took a hammer and smashed up the heliport he'd built him. I always thought they'd dropped him due to his Mob connections but apparently he was wiretapped and they found out he was shagging Pat Lawford only to get closer to them. He was caught saying "I'll sleep with this bitch til I get something going".

From what I remember, Lawford was the connection. It would be interesting to me if he showed any evidence (increased drinking or drugs) that he knew that Marilyn was murdered.