Deporting US citizens?

[DeluxAuto]

do you know the difference between deporting CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS and aliens who are allowed to be here whether it be via green card or asylum petition?

Detention of Mahmoud Khalil​

Derpy with the derpiness.

 

[Lazaran]

The Supreme Court ruled that Garcia was denied due process (despite Derpy's mewling to the contrary), and issued a court order to the US government to "facilitate" his return from the El Salvadoran gulag.

Federal Judge Ikinis demanded to know exactly what steps the US government had taken to comply with her court order. The DOJ could not answer the question. The judge then ordered expedited depositions of government officials by April 23rd and discovery complete by April 28th.

The DOJ attorney meekly said that the government would appeal to the Supreme Court and the judge indicated that the Supreme Court had already ruled last week so any appeal would be moot. The DOJ attorney then asked her to clarify the meaning of the word "facillitate", which the judge said she would do via written order.

So the DOJ is now between a rock and a hard place: either get Garcia returned or detail under penalty of perjury steps taken to do so, or face contempt of court rulings.

Interesting factoid released yesterday - The "ICE investigator" who determined that Garcia was a gang member of MS-13 was previously terminated by the Minneapolis police department for fabricating evidence. This of course made him a good fit for ICE.....

And in an amazing, simply amazing turn of events yesterday, it was revealed that the exact same "ICE investigator" in question had been SUSPENDED from ICE recently for "mishandling confidential ICE investigation interviews"....the guy traded information regarding a suspected female immigrant sex trafficker in exchange for .....sex, of course.

BTW, Garcia was NOT an MS-13 gang member, despite Trump, Vance, Leavitt and Derpy insisting he was. He was heavily recruited by MS-13, and his mom was being forced to pay extortion payment in exchange for the MS-13 gang not carving up her only son with machetes. They sought, and were granted, a provisional asylum request in the United States.

That ^ SHOULD shut Derpy the fuck up…but it won’t…



Also:

We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Bn2f]

 

[Fuzzy1975]

lol, You all need to remember when HisArpy gets "uppity", just recall he's the guy who argued for days on end, water is carbon based, and that you can get electrocuted from a 12 volt car battery....He doesn't deserve debate, only ridicule.

 

[jomar]

Absolutely fascinating! President Trump basically admits that the USA can't manufacture anything from cars to toys to consumer electronics at competitive cost and now is insisting that the country has to send convicted criminals (not to mention some people NOT convicted of crimes) to prisons in foreign countries because the USA can't handle that job either.

Fair point! You’d think it would align with his stated goals for a stable genius art of the deal businessman president to be building big beautiful TRUMP prisons thereby building in the U!S!A!, creating short and long term jobs, and putting criminals behind big beautiful bars

 

[Rotadom]

Throw away balloon. Like dropping bread crumbs in the park and watching the pigeons and squirrels squabble over them.

Defying SCOTUS the Constitution is exactly like that.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Defying SCOTUS the Constitution is exactly like that.

Who defied SCOTUS?

 

[Rotadom]

Who defied SCOTUS?

No one of importance.

 

[Politruk]

Excuse me, but do you know the difference between deporting CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS and aliens who are allowed to be here whether it be via green card or asylum petition?

Clearly ICE and the DOJ do not.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Alabama is a State in the US and subject to Federal law. It has no control over the Federal Government actions and State laws cannot bind the Federal Government.

See: Marbury v. Madison.

I'm not going to do much research on this but seeing how you at least refrained from being a twatwaffle lets stay on subject.

The state is subject to federal law. I do not dispute this. Marbury vs Madison seems have been vital in establishing how checks and balances works in our nation. It has been pointed out that the Supreme Court lacks an enforcement mechanism so at the end of the day they can say something is Unconstitutional all day and if the president disagrees. . . "You and what army" is literal.

However we are discussing if putting prisoners to work is economically viable. To which my first link shows that some of the largest companies in the world seem to believe that it is viable. The argument that we can't make/save money using prison labor seems false to me. Whether its making baseball caps and T-Shirts or fighting fires in CA it seems like people who are in positions to make these calls think its worth while.

I would argue that people who are in prison are under duress. Sure they can say no but somehow I imagine that 'no' doesn't play out very well for people. I mean even if I thought prisons were run by the best people (I do not) I know from my time in the military and hell at Vons and Walmart that there is this thing called "Voluntold" which if you're not familiar its like when your father 'asked' you to take out the trash. It might have been phrased as a request. It was not one. The closest you got to saying 'no' was 'give me a second to finish this, can it wait until the commercial.

I have a laundry list of complaints against our justice system but that's not the real point here. I do find it funny that the party that is always on about "let kids be kids" stuff are passing laws to allow children to work in dangerous conditions because a labor shortage. how do you have a labor shortage and problem with too many immigrants? The crime rates are pretty low no matter how you cut it, and lower still amongst immigrants legal or not. Prioritizing getting rid of them OVER keeping Little Jimmy out of a meat processing pack seems kinda stupid.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Clearly ICE and the DOJ do not.

Clearly they do.

 

[ll74]

Boasberg gives administration options for explaining themselves laying groundwork for contempt.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1912540309134639435

 

[Rebel5soul]

The judges can go fuck themselves--------------------->back to SCOTUS.

 

[DeluxAuto]

but do you know the difference between deporting CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS and aliens who are allowed to be here whether it be via green card or asylum petition?

Detention of Mahmoud Khalil​

Derpy with the derpiness.

Shutting the bonehead barrister up is always a good thing.

 

[DeluxAuto]

The judges can go fuck themselves--------------------->back to SCOTUS.

The US Supreme Court has ruled unanimously that the
Trump administration must try to release a Maryland man
who was mistakenly deported to a mega-jail in El Salvador.

In a 9-0 ruling, the justices declined to block a lower court's
order to "facilitate" bringing back Kilmar Ábrego García,
but they also said Judge Paula Xinis may have exceeded her authority.

 

[Politruk]

Clearly they do.

They're not acting as if they know the difference.

 

[Lance_Castro]

“Must try” to release.

Lol

That’s like when people say “i tried to call you”

 

[Rebel5soul]

The US Supreme Court has ruled unanimously that the
Trump administration must try to release a Maryland man
who was mistakenly deported to a mega-jail in El Salvador.

In a 9-0 ruling, the justices declined to block a lower court's
order to "facilitate" bringing back Kilmar Ábrego García,
but they also said Judge Paula Xinis may have exceeded her authority.

That's right moron, and the word 'facilitate' has a very specific definition under the applicable statutes. But some low life cunt of a judge has decided that she is the official US government lexicographer and there in resides the problem. Shit for brains like you have bought into the notion that she IS the official lexicographer when in reality she's just some low life cunt of a judge that seems to think she's far more important than she is in reality.

 

[Celand]

There is a precedent :

https://blog.nli.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Dema-715.jpg

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

 

[Fuzzy1975]

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It seems you're saying that the Republicans are not fighting for them to come home...

 

[Rebel5soul]

It seems you're saying that the Republicans are not fighting for them to come home...

It seems you're an imbecile.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

It seems you're an imbecile.

Really? How's that? Go read the meme again. It claims that just the Democrats are going to do something. Eluding for that action to happen the hostages need to dress up as some gang. Nowhere does it say the Republicans are doing anything?

 

[DeluxAuto]

That's right moron, and the word 'facilitate' has a very specific definition under the applicable statutes. But some low life cunt of a judge has decided that she is the official US government lexicographer and there in resides the problem. Shit for brains like you have bought into the notion that she IS the official lexicographer when in reality she's just some low life cunt of a judge that seems to think she's far more important than she is in reality.

Don't call people "morons" and "shit for brains" while fucking up the English language and regrettably agreeing with me that I'm right. You fucking old bitter dipshit.

 

[Hel_Books]

Actually, I'm the guy telling you not to put your body parts across the terminals of a 12v battery. Because it's not safe no matter what "self professed experts" tell you.

Now I'm the guy telling you that continuing to act like a fool in public isn't helping your credibility.

I've just pointed out that outsourcing incarceration (amazing that your sort complains about outsourcing anything else, from making toys to building cars!), which is a function of the justice system of any responsible nation, is utterly absurd.

You talk about 12v batteries. Maybe you're thinking about the punishments meted out in the kinds of nations you'd like to ship your convicted criminals (or in the case of that guy sent to CECOT, unconvicted non-criminals) to?