Democrats do not want open borders - stop lying

[JohnnySavage]

Whenever someone trots out "traditional American values", you can bet they need a swift kick in the balls.

 

[Rightguide]

Whenever someone trots out "traditional American values", you can bet they need a swift kick in the balls.

And most of the time those advocates don't have the stones to try it.

 

[JohnnySavage]

And most of the time those advocates don't have the stones to try it.

Keep your values to yourself and we'll have no problem

 

[BotanyBoy]

Whenever someone trots out "traditional American values", you can bet they need a swift kick in the balls.

I see Savage dislikes the idea of individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness too.


Not really shocking.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Keep your values to yourself and we'll have no problem

They aren't the ones trying to force their values upon others.

 

[Rightguide]

Keep your values to yourself and we'll have no problem

I have no problems voicing my opinions in the first place and I can protect my own right to speak freely. But don't let that stop your delusions pf grandeur.

 

[JohnnySavage]

They aren't the ones trying to force their values upon others.

Ummm.... have you met the current class of Republicans? I realize that's your team, but big government, authoritarian rulers don't do much for me.

 

[Luk]

The Housesquaw and the Flathead are the board's most prominent NotRepublicans. As such, they are both experts at denigrating Democratic positions. But neither of them voted for Trump, nossir.

The facts are readily available so to be this ignorant is by their own free will.

 

[Kirkrapine]

They aren't the ones trying to force their values upon others.

The Trumpers are.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Not red-staters.....supporters of tradiational American values.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness......the things you and yours LOATHE with a passion and want to see wiped out, because you're anti-American.

No, I meant these guys, who support no values that would not make any decent person retch.

 

[Luk]

Which is a thimble more than what you've got.

I've demonstrated (D)'s support for open border and all you've got is hot air.

You can't even take a shot at providing an alternative load of bullshit to protect your precious (D)'s stupidity.

You ain't done shit besides post pics of random douchebags being douchebags. You're just as hysterical and douchey as them.

 

[SpeareChucker]

They would dominate now, it of not for the Project REDMAP gerrymandering. Doesn't it disturb you to know your side can't win without cheating?

First off, it's not my side.
Second off Gerrymandering did not become an issue until Democrats lost control of it at the state level. It is only in the field of ideas that elections are won. We see examples such as a movement in the African-American community from the emerging Socialism and secularism of the Democrat more towards the conservative and religious trappings of the Republican Party. Similar movements are visible in the Hispanic community for the same reasons. The Democrats are no longer family-centric, they are group centric.

What makes you think the mob is any worse?

The mob is always worse. It, it's passions, needs to be checked. This was the original purpose of the Senate.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Ummm.... have you met the current class of Republicans?

Who said anything about Republicans?

I thought we were talking about people who value "traditional American values" as stated in our founding documents.

I realize that's your team,

Oh you had a dumbass attack and made a stupid assumption....that explains a lot.

Not being a (D)ick suck doesn't make me a Republican.

but big government, authoritarian rulers don't do much for me.

Me either!! That's why I quit voting Democrat.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Whenever someone trots out "traditional American values", you can bet they need a swift kick in the balls.

Are you then, a post-modernist?

 

[BotanyBoy]

The Trumpers are.

Trumpers =/= traditionalist.

No, I meant these guys, who support no values that would not make any decent person retch.

That's the most inane "I hate the USA and especially rural USA" hate rag I've ever wasted my time on.

Besides you're a fan of using government authority to force poverty upon people....I wouldn't trust you to decide what was decent for a rabid dog much less people.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Are you then, a post-modernist?

I don't know what that is, and really don't want to get into a Sgt Spiderman -like discussion about it, as always happens here.

I want to be left alone. I don't want the government telling me what to do, when to do it and/or how to do it. "Traditional Family Values" always seems to be code for some mythical Leave it to Beaver world that never existed.


You do your thing and I'll do mine. If neither of us is hurting the other, there's no need for government intervention.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't know what that is, and really don't want to get into a Sgt Spiderman -like discussion about it, as always happens here.

I want to be left alone. I don't want the government telling me what to do, when to do it and/or how to do it. "Traditional Family Values" always seems to be code for some mythical Leave it to Beaver world that never existed.


You do your thing and I'll do mine. If neither of us is hurting the other, there's no need for government intervention.

^^ clearly a fan of traditional American values and likely a classical western liberal.

 

[SpeareChucker]

I don't know what that is, and really don't want to get into a Sgt Spiderman -like discussion about it, as always happens here.

I want to be left alone. I don't want the government telling me what to do, when to do it and/or how to do it. "Traditional Family Values" always seems to be code for some mythical Leave it to Beaver world that never existed.


You do your thing and I'll do mine. If neither of us is hurting the other, there's no need for government intervention.

These, then are not traditional American values?

 

[Kirkrapine]

Are you then, a post-modernist?

Postmodernism is a literary/cultural/artistic phenomenon with no political implications to speak of, and don't give us any bullshit about cultural Marxism -- neither the civil rights movement nor the antiwar movement nor the feminist movement nor the gay rights movement nor the sexual revolution nor the Great Society was in any way inspired by the Frankfurt School of Marxist literary criticism. The New Left was to some extent, but the New Left accomplished nothing of lasting importance and has long since faded from the scene.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Trumpers =/= traditionalist.

I can't see any traditionalists on the horizon who are not Trumpers. N.B.: Libertarians are not traditionalists.

That's the most inane "I hate the USA and especially rural USA" hate rag I've ever wasted my time on.

And yet everything it says is absolutely true.

Besides you're a fan of using government authority to force poverty upon people....I wouldn't trust you to decide what was decent for a rabid dog much less people.

I'm no vet, but potassium chloride, I believe, is the preferred treatment.

 

[SpeareChucker]

So art and philosophy have zero impact on culture and thinking.





A lot like religion right?
Do you ever think or does it all have to be given by Google and Wiki?

 

[Kirkrapine]

So art and philosophy have zero impact on culture and thinking.

They have no direct or immediate impact on elections. Cultural innovations take a lot of time to develop any political implications, and some never do. What are the politics of rap?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I can't see any traditionalists on the horizon who are not Trumpers. N.B.: Libertarians are not traditionalists.

proto-libertarians, classical liberals are traditionalist.

Our country was founded by a bunch of radical classical liberals, some arguably libertarian and founded our country in a manner that reflected those liberal ideals.

Libertarians, espeically the 'light' libertarians (classical liberals) are more traditionalist than partisans of either current major party.

And yet everything it says is absolutely true.

If you live in a delusional antiFa bubble.

I'm no vet, but potassium chloride, I believe, is the preferred treatment.

.30cal is faster and far more humane....tha fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Kirkrapine]

.30cal is faster and far more humane....tha fuck is wrong with you?

Then why don't vets use it?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You ain't done shit besides post pics of random douchebags being douchebags. You're just as hysterical and douchey as them.

Vice Chair of the DNC is a "random douchebag" ?? D-bag sure...but hardly random.

Let me guess....you didn't even realize I was posting pictures of the DNC leadership protesting for no borders did you?