Defining Love

not to be redundant here but ..mmm yeah lol...

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"I make the distinction between "being in love" and "loving." The distinction is that when one feels in love, it's all about the internal emotions felt in the presence of the other or prompted by thoughts of the other. That's completely self-centered. Loving, on the other hand, is when you extend yourself in service to the other, in caring for the other, in giving to the other. Only when we involve ourselves in the life of the other do we truly love. Anything else is just emotion.



LOl@ JUST Emotion...Love is Emotion ..hello?? just when is it not??? please explain that!! I mean I love my friends, my family , Birds, chocolate ,my lover ALL in Different ways maybe ..But its still ALL based on some sort of FEELING....it is NEVER just a word...

Personally I also feel that we Dont have to INVOLVE ourselves in the others lives In order to TRuly Love them ..perhaps we just need to only be a small part of their life...
 
Originally posted by ~Dream~
not to be redundant here but ..mmm yeah lol...

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"I make the distinction between "being in love" and "loving." The distinction is that when one feels in love, it's all about the internal emotions felt in the presence of the other or prompted by thoughts of the other. That's completely self-centered. Loving, on the other hand, is when you extend yourself in service to the other, in caring for the other, in giving to the other. Only when we involve ourselves in the life of the other do we truly love. Anything else is just emotion.



LOl@ JUST Emotion...Love is Emotion ..hello?? just when is it not??? please explain that!! I mean I love my friends, my family , Birds, chocolate ,my lover ALL in Different ways maybe ..But its still ALL based on some sort of FEELING....it is NEVER just a word...

Personally I also feel that we Dont have to INVOLVE ourselves in the others lives In order to TRuly Love them ..perhaps we just need to only be a small part of their life...
 
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~Dream~ said:
not to be redundant here but ..mmm yeah lol...

{Quote}
"I make the distinction between "being in love" and "loving." The distinction is that when one feels in love, it's all about the internal emotions felt in the presence of the other or prompted by thoughts of the other. That's completely self-centered. Loving, on the other hand, is when you extend yourself in service to the other, in caring for the other, in giving to the other. Only when we involve ourselves in the life of the other do we truly love. Anything else is just emotion.



LOl@ JUST Emotion...Love is Emotion ..hello?? just when is it not??? please explain that!! I mean I love my friends, my family , Birds, chocolate ,my lover ALL in Different ways maybe ..But its still ALL based on some sort of FEELING....it is NEVER just a word...

Personally I also feel that we Dont have to INVOLVE ourselves in the others lives In order to TRuly Love them ..perhaps we just need to only be a small part of their life...

mmmmmmmmm I guess. I'm kinda in between on this gal I have met..........the in love or loving thing. Or, perhaps I'm just infatuated and in lust.
 
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DLL said:
Dream I swear one day I will read this thread I just mostly post to ammo re sports but i will catch up and reply to this I promise:kiss:

So what is the score?:confused:
 
Originally posted by DLL
Dream I swear one day I will read this thread I just mostly post to ammo re sports but i will catch up and reply to this I promise:kiss:


wondering why this is? :confused:
 
DLL, did you see that Tampa game last night? Awesome!! Too bad you ghot stuck with that Chicago gig....my Mom told me that you have to go for Lou. Pick me up Frangos while you are there. Oh and a Blackhawks jersey if you can...#44.LOLLLL You can drop it off at Mom's. Thank you Pretty One.:kiss: :rose:
 
Originally posted by Ammo44
DLL, did you see that Tampa game last night? Awesome!! Too bad you ghot stuck with that Chicago gig....my Mom told me that you have to go for Lou. Pick me up Frangos while you are there. Oh and a Blackhawks jersey if you can...#44.LOLLLL You can drop it off at Mom's. Thank you Pretty One.:kiss: :rose:
 
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redrider4u said:
mmmmmmmmm I guess. I'm kinda in between on this gal I have met..........the in love or loving thing. Or, perhaps I'm just infatuated and in lust.

I wouldnt DOUBT THAT for a minute..:D
 
midwestyankee said:
Don't worry, Liza. Making it on the end of a pin doesn't leave room for any of the imaginative positions anyway. ;)

I'll definitely keep that in mind during one of my solo journeys... :devil: :kiss:
 
~Dream~ said:
not to be redundant here but ..mmm yeah lol...

{Quote}
"I make the distinction between "being in love" and "loving." The distinction is that when one feels in love, it's all about the internal emotions felt in the presence of the other or prompted by thoughts of the other. That's completely self-centered. Loving, on the other hand, is when you extend yourself in service to the other, in caring for the other, in giving to the other. Only when we involve ourselves in the life of the other do we truly love. Anything else is just emotion.



LOl@ JUST Emotion...Love is Emotion ..hello?? just when is it not??? please explain that!! I mean I love my friends, my family , Birds, chocolate ,my lover ALL in Different ways maybe ..But its still ALL based on some sort of FEELING....it is NEVER just a word...

Personally I also feel that we Dont have to INVOLVE ourselves in the others lives In order to TRuly Love them ..perhaps we just need to only be a small part of their life...
Love is as love does.

I can say that I love my new car and may wash and wax it weekly until it shines like a mirror. I can say I love my dog and treat her well. I can say I love golf. Yet would anyone confuse any of those statements with what we might call genuine love? I doubt it. Yet the emotions of "loving" one's new car or dog or sport are every bit as real as the emotions we feel when we first fall in love. Still, they are only emotions.

Would anyone call it a loving relationship if there was no commitment in the relationship? I doubt it. So how do we know that commitment exists in a relationship? We know when people act on their commitment when they attend to and care for their beloved despite preferring to be elsewhere or wanting to be doing something else. This is not emotion. This is action.

Emotions fade because they are ephemeral, temporary things. We have little control over our emotions. Thus we have little control over falling in love. But we have total control over the decision to love. When we feel the emotions associated with love, we have a choice. Do we act on them or not? Sometimes we act with discipline and choose not to act on our feelings. Sometimes we go ahead. How do we make the choice? Why do we make the choice? I think we make the choice to love or not love because on some deep level we know the difference between the emotion and the action.

We say we love our children, and certainly we do. But do we ever fall in love with our children? No. Why not? Because falling in love is not love. Falling in love is a biological event necessary to ensure that people mate. It is a matter of sexual attraction, pure and simple. Yet we love our children their whole lives. How do we do this? Through attention and caring - all action suffused with emotion.

Falling in love evokes strong emotions and powerful feelings. It enables us to collapse our ego boundaries to allow another much closer to ourselves than anyone else. It enables us to feel that the universe is spinning around our center. But it goes away. It is temporary. Genuine love is not temporary.

Genuine love is in the attention, care, and discipline we bring to a relationship. Of course, there will be stong emotions assocated with these actions from time to time. But the emotions are not the actions. These are not selfless acts merely motivated by strong emotion. These are the outward form of the mysterious force of love.

The entirety of love is a mystery. How it happens, when it appears, the company in which it manifests itself are all impossible to divine. Yet we know this force exists and we depend on it for our lives. We can love another person without the strong emotions of falling in love. We can achieve similar strong emotions through sexual ecstasy - we might even cry out "I love you" to a partner we hardly know, simply from the collapse of ego boundaries that occurs at climax. Yet this is not love and none of us would argue that. The genuine love that propagates human spiritual growth is not the temporary emotion of lust or ecstasy. Indeed, it is far greater than that.

Can we define love? Ultimately I think we can't. What I do think is possible is to clarify our understanding of it so that when it enters our lives we see it for what it is, we give it the time and attention it requires, and we grow with our patners in the process.

Oh, and it also makes the flowers we pass along the way smell ever so much more beautiful.
 
midwestyankee said:
Love is as love does.

I can say that I love my new car and may wash and wax it weekly until it shines like a mirror. I can say I love my dog and treat her well. I can say I love golf. Yet would anyone confuse any of those statements with what we might call genuine love? I doubt it. Yet the emotions of "loving" one's new car or dog or sport are every bit as real as the emotions we feel when we first fall in love. Still, they are only emotions.

Would anyone call it a loving relationship if there was no commitment in the relationship? I doubt it. So how do we know that commitment exists in a relationship? We know when people act on their commitment when they attend to and care for their beloved despite preferring to be elsewhere or wanting to be doing something else. This is not emotion. This is action.

Emotions fade because they are ephemeral, temporary things. We have little control over our emotions. Thus we have little control over falling in love. But we have total control over the decision to love. When we feel the emotions associated with love, we have a choice. Do we act on them or not? Sometimes we act with discipline and choose not to act on our feelings. Sometimes we go ahead. How do we make the choice? Why do we make the choice? I think we make the choice to love or not love because on some deep level we know the difference between the emotion and the action.

We say we love our children, and certainly we do. But do we ever fall in love with our children? No. Why not? Because falling in love is not love. Falling in love is a biological event necessary to ensure that people mate. It is a matter of sexual attraction, pure and simple. Yet we love our children their whole lives. How do we do this? Through attention and caring - all action suffused with emotion.

Falling in love evokes strong emotions and powerful feelings. It enables us to collapse our ego boundaries to allow another much closer to ourselves than anyone else. It enables us to feel that the universe is spinning around our center. But it goes away. It is temporary. Genuine love is not temporary.

Genuine love is in the attention, care, and discipline we bring to a relationship. Of course, there will be stong emotions assocated with these actions from time to time. But the emotions are not the actions. These are not selfless acts merely motivated by strong emotion. These are the outward form of the mysterious force of love.

The entirety of love is a mystery. How it happens, when it appears, the company in which it manifests itself are all impossible to divine. Yet we know this force exists and we depend on it for our lives. We can love another person without the strong emotions of falling in love. We can achieve similar strong emotions through sexual ecstasy - we might even cry out "I love you" to a partner we hardly know, simply from the collapse of ego boundaries that occurs at climax. Yet this is not love and none of us would argue that. The genuine love that propagates human spiritual growth is not the temporary emotion of lust or ecstasy. Indeed, it is far greater than that.

Can we define love? Ultimately I think we can't. What I do think is possible is to clarify our understanding of it so that when it enters our lives we see it for what it is, we give it the time and attention it requires, and we grow with our patners in the process.

Oh, and it also makes the flowers we pass along the way smell ever so much more beautiful.

Well yes, trite, but yes.
 
DLL said:
Baby glad you read that..explain it to me on friday will ya..its like reading a deposition..:p
:kiss: 's


Ahhhhhhh...enough of that baloney.....any good hockey news??:)
 
DLL said:
oh i agree tampa is on fire.....i want the cup to stay in the states....


xoxoxo ammo:kiss:

Speaking of on fire..........have I told you how hot you look.......:kiss: :devil: ........
 
DLL said:
mmmm do tell me some more......:kiss:


frango?????:p

Why thank you, DLL.........popping it in my mouth.....sucking slowly....eyeing you up and down...:devil: ;)
 
Originally posted by Ammo44
Why thank you, DLL.........popping it in my mouth.....sucking slowly....eyeing you up and down...:devil: ;)
 
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DLL said:
not as good as altoids but what the heck.....oh i will call you sat keep that cell handy for the stakes ok???
we are like mr and mrs cosell here...lol


:kiss:

CRACKING UP!!! So true........I still like Smarty Jones to be a triple crowner....:cool: Back to you DLL in our NY bureau.....:p
 
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