Dear X:

[Netzach]

Dear Netz,

Could you please not induce poor innocent bystanders in believing that you're directing them to some great hot porn site only to realize that what makes you so hot is some postage printing online service?

Love,
DB

International mail, no trip to the PO.

Sorry *I* am still coming in my pants.

 

[Plucky19]

Dear X,

Thank you... more than you know.

 

[Bi_Kitty]

Dear textbooks,

Why must you cost so much and then your publishers go and change editions so we can't sell you expensive asses back? WHY?

 

[h_i_s]

Dear Sinn - I love snakes. I have snake envy, well at least maybe a king snake or something someday. Really unexotic and small, but still.

When you are ready, Netz', give a yell. There are always snakes in need of adoption.
No different than kittens and puppies the way people buy them on impulse because they are 'so cute' and then tire of cleaning up after them, tire of the expense and inconveniences involved in feeding them etc... or they stop handling them and wonder why their once oh so cute docile little reptile is suddenly biting.

P.S.
If you'd like assistance toward curing your case of snake envy until you are ready for one of your own, I can post a photo of me cleaning the HUGE peepee-poo-pooed smelly snake tanks right before I have to clean them again.
On second thought, that might not work for you. 'You' could just get a slave to do that type of dirty work. heh.. that switch stuff is starting to sound good to me, for domestic chores, at least (maybe a pedicure too.. a massage .. and I don't feel like cooking dinner tonight ... wonder if Ebay has Overnight FedX...).
Snake envy huh? Do you ever cease in giving reason for making the most unexpected things seem so frigging hot? Phew..

Hisbabydoll & Doveofserenity : When we have toured local public schools I am always thrilled to help another get past the fear. Never realized the photos of me with our snakes could be just as useful with assisting others toward getting control of their fear in the same way.

Thanks for sharing this with me.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Dear textbooks,

Why must you cost so much and then your publishers go and change editions so we can't sell you expensive asses back? WHY?

Planned obsolescence. Very effective strategy for generating massive profit.

 

[Untamed_Tygress]

Netzach, have you ever checked the pets section at www.craigslist.org? You can find some really nice snakes on there at cheap prices when their owners no longer have time for them.

The one thing you may want to watch out for though is listings without pictures. I responded to one & never again! A woman wanted $30.00 for a baby mexican black king snake. We were led to believe that he was in perfect condition. Then we got down there to find that the poor little guy had a broken jaw & 4 kinks in his tail. The one at the tip was almost completely pinched off!

But he was such a friendly snake & we felt so sorry for him that we talked the lady down in price and took him home anyway. I'm happy to say that Spook is doing great now, & is growing like a weed! His tail is filling out and he looks better with each shed.

Theres also a great selection to choose from over at kingsnake.com if you dont mind having reptiles sent through the mail. I didn't mention it before since some people do. Almost all our animals were rescues from Petco, etc. but i'll be getting a kinda pricey one i've been wanting for a long time off of kingsnake for my birthday.

 

[Untamed_Tygress]

It's like the house of misfit animals here with our aggressive fire skink, our big redtail boa who takes forever to kill a rat cuz he's been fed nothing but mice his entire life, and our mini bunny who nobody wanted cuz his whiskers were all wonky, but with a little bit of work & a whole lot of love these guys will make great pets!

 

[h_i_s]

Dear the dating game....

When will I get lucky?

Still......possibly getting to play within the next two weeks...thank goodness!!



Caz x

Hope luck finds you.
.. and that it's middle name is "Play! Play! Play... all night and day.".

 

[h_i_s]

Tygress,

When I saw you had logged in today and had posted on that thread for the first time since Jan. 7th... I knew it would be just a matter of time before you would attempt to stir up shit. I knew it would just take you a little while, at least, to figure out how to slip a taunt in, which others would not read so clearly as being just a petty attempt on your part to push mine or IYM's buttons.

I'd appreciate it if you would resist the temptation to play games and STOP. The only reason you have posted advice here on this thread, is as a petty attempt to step on my toes and stick your nose into what I posted. You got injured animals off of Craig's because you don't know what the hell you are DOING in the first place. You READ shit online and get advice from IYM. You don't KNOW about reptiles.You are the last person who should be giving advice on the subject.

Being pissed because you had a blowout with IYM after the Fetish Fair Flea (Yeah, now go ahead and tell our friends here exactly what you said about them that night after hanging out with all of us.) and have since been blocked from phoning or emailing either of us, and are blocked was more than you could stand so you came over here to Lit to stir the pot some more.

You are no expert in caring for reptiles. Your opportunities involving snakes and what limited knowledge and whatever limited experience you have with them are the direct result of all the advice you and Carl sought from IYM and I.

You can't take care of ANYONE on your own, yourself and animals included.

Craigslist.com's pet section isn't the best resource for inexperienced prospective reptile owners, unless they are open to the chance of obtaining an ill animal and are willing to nurse it back to good health.

Pretty well known by those who know better that it's a section which is commonly plagued by irresponsible pet owners looking to pass unhealthy animals onto others. I know that you already know that. IYM taught you and Carl a great deal in the past months, Cyn. Like when you took in that black king snake and phoned us, and spoke with us seeking advice regarding his chances for survival and future challenges he is likely to face etc ect.

Or how about that so called 'pet shop' your friend had? Tell everyone .. WHO did you call? Tell everyone here, Cyn... WHO told you what to do, and how to do it? You have acted deceitful, and nothing less than meddlesome.

Why don't you come clean, be genuine, and tell everyone what your agenda is? Come clean. Why beat around the bush? I didn't want to get do this shit with you, and would rather you just leave us alone. I won't just sit back, and say nothing while you involve me, and attempt to pull the wool over on anyone over here, or ANYWHERE else. You don't know me at all. But I sure know a whole lot about you. Just for the record, that isn't a threat to you Cyn. It's a promise.

I'm certain you won't have a defense. You'll scream and shout profanities and show your ass, as you have done for the past two weeks. Nothing productive, as usual. Nothing constructive either. Surprise me please. Prove me wrong. Give it your best shot.

Netzach, have you ever checked the pets section at www.craigslist.org? You can find some really nice snakes on there at cheap prices when their owners no longer have time for them.

The one thing you may want to watch out for though is listings without pictures. I responded to one & never again! A woman wanted $30.00 for a baby mexican black king snake. We were led to believe that he was in perfect condition. Then we got down there to find that the poor little guy had a broken jaw & 4 kinks in his tail. The one at the tip was almost completely pinched off!

But he was such a friendly snake & we felt so sorry for him that we talked the lady down in price and took him home anyway. I'm happy to say that Spook is doing great now, & is growing like a weed! His tail is filling out and he looks better with each shed.

 

[EmpressFi]

Dear X and X,

How did I get in the middle of this?

I love you both and I see the pain from both sides and I'm so sorry that it's come to the end of your marriage.

You had so many things stacked against you... the distance between you, her citizenship, your youth, finances, the "indiscretions"... so many things for such a young, tender marriage. I was pulling for you, trying to help him see how much you loved him and trying to help her see what you needed her to see but thought she was missing.

And today, you told her it was over... and you did it over the phone because you didnt want to wait until her visa problem was fixed. You determined as soon as she was restricted entry this last time that because you couldnt see and touch her, your marriage was over. And you and I both know, that once you've decided something, you cant change. And that is sad.

She's telling me she's going to kill herself tomorrow. I've told you this and you said you'd call her family to watch her. This is the family who tells her to leave or hide upstairs when they have friends over... yeah.. I'm sure they'll make her feel loved and watched over.

All of this just makes me sad. And I wish I werent in the middle. But I love you both.


Me

 

[Untamed_Tygress]

WTF is your problem? I'm only here to offer advice! I never said that anyone had to take it! And i'm CERTAINLY not here to "stir up shit" or "step on your toes." Get over yourself!

But since you had to go and change the subject...

That fight only happened cuz you lied to him about me not telling you where he was and you know it! That fucking hurt!!! I'm not the type to sit here and take the heat for something i didn't even do! Find some other patsy!

If you cant even remember me walking into the restaurant to get you and relaying his message it may be time to quit drinking! But i'm betting that wasn't the case at all... You probably had this whole thing planned out. In fact, i dont think you EVER liked me! You only hung out with me cuz your husband did, & the fact that you went as long as you did without saying so much as a word to me proves it! I'm shy, what the hell was your excuse? Then i found YOUR snake a mate & the only one who thanked me for it was your husband. What the hell was that all about? You seem to think everyone owes you something. And dont forget that other time when i realised i had fallen asleep & found you sleeping on the living room floor. Something was wrong that night whether you admit it or not, & if you ever really considered me a friend you wouldn't have put up a wall between us!

I'm glad you seem to think things were bright and cheery between you & K but they really weren't. He would ask you things that he considered to be very simple questions, you would tell him to go ask J, & then i'd end up hearing him whine about it endlessly because it took him forever to find him. Couldn't you have atleast offered to help him look?

And yes, i realise you aren't modeling NOW...i'm not stupid! But that doesn't mean our paths wont end up crossing in the future. I'd really appreciate it if you stayed far away from me if they do since i'm able to discuss things calmnly & rationally but you'd rather be hitting me with a barrage of verbal assaults.


Edit: And as to MY pet store friend, & MY calling you to ask about the baby king's survival... pure bs!!!

1. K & i share SOME mutual friends & he doesn't happen to be one of them. Stop assuming things! 2. K was the one who called you, & just because he did doesn't mean it was at my request. Again, stop assuming things! He only asked you about the king in the first place cuz he wanted to call and shoot the shit with you about other stuff anyway. We didn't need your help. Ask him if you dont believe me. Ask him if you dont believe me about the restaurant too. He was there. He was the one who told me where to find you & watched me walk through the friggin door. 3. Where the hell did you get injured animalS from? We have ONE! However, we hope to change that soon. We're not the kind of people who'd turn our backs on an animal just cuz it happens to be sick, injured, too fat, too skinny, too shy, too mean, or whatever the hell the issue may be cuz we're running a REAL rescue operation here! Only breeders and collectors expect perfection.


And you guys REALLY need to learn how to deal with people! When someone is nice enough to help you out you say thank you. You dont add shit to your goodbyes like "If you wont stay we'll have to find someone else." I dont like pressure, nor do i like feeling replaceable. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but i dont care. I'm a real person with REAL feelings. I hope you'll come back and read this someday and learn from your mistakes. It'll save the next person alot of grief.

 

[h_i_s]

i dont know what the hell your problem is. I'm only here to offer advice. I never said that anyone had to take it! And i'm certainly not here to "stir up shit" or "step on your toes." Get over yourself!

And if you really think i knew nothing about snakes or how to care for them before meeting up with you guys you are sadly mistaken!

I have as much of a right as anyone else to be here or any other one but i will leave if it makes you happy. I already quit modeling despite Karl begging me not to just so we wouldn't have to be around you guys anymore. You should be proud of yourself!

And it's Karl with a K. You should know that by now.

I wouldn't know. I don't speak with him online or know what other names he uses or how he spells any of them. We have no issue with him and never have. He's stable, honest, and genuine by comparison and, as far as I have seen, realistic. The issue has never been with him, Cyn.

You have never needed to be around me to model. Take responsibility. YOU quit. And besides, as you know, and everyone else too... I'm not even actively modeling currently. I have put it on hold since IYM's knee surgery, and everyone knows that. Stop being so delusional.

You should seek professional help, your primary can refer you, or your local women's advocacy center. I understand better now than when I first met you, just WHY your life has been so tragic and why you are surrounded by drama and dysfunction. You are unstable.

We would both love for you to leave us alone.
It would make me extremely happy if you just would.
Please, do.

 

[Untamed_Tygress]

Sinn0cent1... this is Jackal (you know who this is seeing as how I am writing under Tygresses' name). I do not appreciate you using my real name on public forums. Especially seeing as how you still cannot spell it. I also do not appreciate you taking our apparent "fall from grace" in your eyes and making it open to misinterpretation from other people who have no bearing on what happened. I am appalled at this childish behavior ESPECIALLY since Tygress refused to fall to this level by firing off her own rant of disapproval.

MY friends, despite their flaws, are NONE of your business and I WILL NOT tolerate any verbal abuse from you on their behalf. Vlad tried his hardest but depression got the best of him. His failure is not open for your accusations. WE are attempting to learn as much as we can, as fast as we can, about reptiles and amphibians. I have a degree in marine safety and environmental protection, a lot of my knowledge of marine ecosystems and fauna carries over into the world of herpetology. Tygress went to agricultural school and focused on the care for many livestock as well as small mammals, reptiles and birds. We want to learn more and we have EVERY RIGHT to offer what little knowledge and experience we have to other people on ANY website we choose. If you think for a minute that our respect for IYM in regards to what he has taught us has diminished, you are mistaken and I am insulted that you would even consider that.

No one is perfect, not even you. I would think after of all of my hard work for you, my "pet shop" friend and others, you would realize that I always strive to share EVERYONES knowledge and experience with each other so everyone can LEARN. That how people are SUPPOSED to be with each other.

I am Bulls**t with the way our friendship ended, HOWEVER I am even more upset that I, and I ALONE, was the only one adult enough to volunteer to get everyone together to work things out. I would caution you to remember that before you draw ME into ANYTHING regarding your issues with Tygress again. I would also remind you that "calling the kettle black" is a two way street and there are plenty of things in your message that could be turned right back around at you.

Sinn0cent1, act like an adult, dont start more crap when everyone just wants to get on with their lives. Literotica is NOT YOURS. It is a public domain, and as such, Tygress has every right to be here as you. Cut the drama queen act and just drop it because I am really sick of being the voice of reason to people who are supposed to be older and wiser than me.

If you really want to talk, call or email, I'm still willing to hear you guys out, and I always will be.

Respectfully (but VERY dissapointed)

JACKAL

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

Said with the utmost respect to ALL involved , you don't think it might be more prudent to take these conversations to pm ?

Honestly, not playing Lit police here , nor do I have any wish to be seen to be anti freedom of speech , just that from a personal perspective and in hindsight, what may make 'entertaining' reading for others today may come back and bite you in the future.

 

[h_i_s]

Sinn0cent1... this is Jackal (you know who this is seeing as how I am writing under Tygresses' name). I do not appreciate you using my real name on public forums. Especially seeing as how you still cannot spell it. I also do not appreciate you taking our apparent "fall from grace" in your eyes and making it open to misinterpretation from other people who have no bearing on what happened. I am appalled at this childish behavior ESPECIALLY since Tygress refused to fall to this level by firing off her own rant of disapproval.

She never posted here until learning that I do about a month or so ago... and in sporatic spurts, at that. I've been posting here on this ID alone for over four years. You as little sense as she does.

SHE has always referred to you as 'Karl' or "K". What do you expect? I've never heard this Jackal name. You need to get the facts straight there.
I don't answer to you. You'll tolerate whatever I give in return to what bullshit she conjurs up. What do you think you are doing to do about it otherwise? Get real.

You MADE your friends our business. We didn't ask you to. You helped us. We helped you in return. Get REAL... again, please.
Vlad didn't try his hardest and you badmouthed him more than anyone else, except for Cyn. She was one up on you in all the private messages she sent out. You aired his failure, not anyone else. You just did it again..... even MORE.

Is this really 'K' typing? Cyn usually is the one who can't keep her facts straight, most of the time..... hmm.

If you had respect for IYM, you'd be speaking with Him rather than flubbering in your attempts to defend your poor excuse of a girlfriend on a public forum. I could push more buttons than you so don't threaten me.

You both have more dirt to be spilled than I ever have or will.

Gotta go.

Do us all a favor and tell Cyn to stop contacting us, in any form.

You are acting like a bigger drama queen than she is.
She is all mouth. If she were all that mature and intelligent she'd not need you here to take her foot out of her mouth.

You should focus on helping her, teaching her maturity and how to accept responsability for her faults and shortcomings etc ect ect before you point a finger at anyone else "K".

She's led a fucked up life in many ways. We don't want to be involved in any more that she has coming.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

Dear X, Y, and Z.

I was going to say something really snarky here.

And then realized it would look like General Board bullshit.

I am soooooooo not into that. So I'm keeping my yap shut.

 

[Untamed_Tygress]

This is Jackal for the final time...


Im going to spell this out in caps so you get the fuc*ing point.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM US STOP BRINGING THIS SHIT UP. ACT LIKE THE 40 YEAR OLD YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE; SHUT UP, MOVE ON. PRETEND LIKE WE DON'T EXIST WHEN YOU SEE POSTS FROM US TO OTHER PEOPLE. WE DIDN'T CONTACT YOU SO STOP PRETENDING THAT WE ARE OUT TO PISS YOU OFF. BEING A CATTY, SELF RIGHTEOUS BITCH IS ONLY SHOWING MYSELF AND EVERYONE ELSE HERE THAT YOU CAN'T HANDLE ADULT MATTERS. I DONT GIVE A FLYING F*CK IF YOU WROTE THE FUC*ING CODE FOR THIS WEBSITE. YOU DONT OWN IT SO STOP WITH THE 5YR OLD "ITS MINE" ROUTINE.

I DON'T DEAL WITH IDIOTS AND YOU WILL NOT HEAR FROM EITHER TYGRESS OR MYSELF AGAIN. BY THE WAY, ILLICITLY TELLING MUTUAL FRIENDS HOW "HORRIBLE" TYGRESS IS BEHIND OUR BACKS IS ABOUT AS LOW AS A PERSON CAN GET.

YOU CAN LIVE IN YOUR FANTASY WORLD ALL YOU WANT, DON'T DRAG OTHERS DOWN WITH YOU.

TELL IYM THAT I WISH HIM WELL IN ALL THINGS AND I GRIEVE AT THE FACT THAT I CANNOT CONTACT HIM FREELY. BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AT THIS TIMEYOU ARE QUITE POSSIBLY THE MOST IRRATIONAL, CHILDISH AND RIDICULOUS PERSON TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH. GROW UP BEFORE YOU PUSH EVERYONE ELSE THAT LIKES YOU AWAY.

DO NOT SPEAK TO OR ABOUT TYGRESS AGAIN, SHE WILL NOT BE TALKING TO OR ABOUT YOU. THERE IS A "BLOCK THIS USER" BUTTON ON THIS SITE. DO I REALLY HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW IT WORKS????


Jackal

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

Said with the utmost respect to ALL involved , you don't think it might be more prudent to take these conversations to pm ?

Honestly, not playing Lit police here , nor do I have any wish to be seen to be anti freedom of speech , just that from a personal perspective and in hindsight, what may make 'entertaining' reading for others today may come back and bite you in the future.

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/703dcfb731.gif

I agree with Rebecca and Evil_Geoff on this one...... Sort this via PM would be maybe better?

Just sayin.

 

[h_i_s]

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/703dcfb731.gif

I agree with Rebecca and Evil_Geoff on this one...... Sort this via PM would be maybe better?



Just sayin.

Said with the utmost respect to ALL involved , you don't think it might be more prudent to take these conversations to pm ?

Honestly, not playing Lit police here , nor do I have any wish to be seen to be anti freedom of speech , just that from a personal perspective and in hindsight, what may make 'entertaining' reading for others today may come back and bite you in the future.

Thanks for the concern people.
I guess none of you have concidered that they had been blocked from PMing me weeks ago everywhere else and that these forum boards and this site are the only mode of communication for which they had 'left' to contact me which IYM and I forgot to block them on.


Normally, I don't have say when IYM decides something as serious as having need to cut off contact both online and off. I've only known Him to do so with one other couple that we have had contact with before. This is the only contact that untamed_Tygress and her boyfriend (the person now posting on her account calling himself "Jackal") have had with me since IYM blocked them everywhere else.
Yeah, I should have listened to IYM and just blocked Tygress from the start. It wasn't an order form Him, it was a request though so I used bad judgement and did so anyway.... Duh. I let my intolerance for being lied about get the best of me here. My bad.. admittedly.

Done. Blocked.




ETA: Quoted reply by rebecca, with the hope that BiaTcHiNFiRe won't assume that I would single her out.

 

[Untamed_Tygress]

Dear Untamed_Tygress,

Your account on Literotica Discussion Board has been locked because someone has tried to log into the account with the wrong password more than 5 times. You will be able to attempt to log in again in another 15 minutes.




I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd quit trying to hack into my account. Not gonna ask again. Thank you.

I stopped listening to your stupid ass a long time ago! Please accept it and move on. Nothing makes less sense to me than a couple of so called reptile experts trying to make me look bad by telling everyone that i know nothing about snakes when i'm the one who had to correct you that it's male snakes that probe deep & females that probe shallow when sexing. Atleast one of us knows their snake anatomy!

blocked!

 

[Netzach]

Um, I have two cats who have my undivided attention and vet bill money for I hope about 12 more years anyway.

 

[LittleJade]

Dear X:

I wish you could come over (the wall works!), and spend the day with me.

 

[h_i_s]

Um, I have two cats who have my undivided attention and vet bill money for I hope about 12 more years anyway.

Cats are cuter than snakes anyway, by the standards of most, and they eat mice too. Bonus.

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[Rox_shybutcurious]

Dear X,

Why did you have to keep pushing? Why weren’t you willing to spend more than 2 weeks time and about a dozen emails worth of conversations in trying to get to know me? With most of those emails trying to convince me that the best way to explore was in private play instead of spending time with the group and asking questions to try and learn. Why couldn’t you have at least let a bit of a connection, even friendship maybe, develop so I felt you saw me as a person and not just the latest sub/bottom to join. I told you I’m still trying to find my place in the group and that I wasn’t ready for the level of intimacy that you play at. You saying you’d take things slow isn’t going to change that. Time and letting me get to know you might have though. I tried to tell you that too, but you didn’t seem to be listening. Now I feel like I’ve disappointed you. I hate that feeling. And I hate feeling like it’s going to be awkward seeing you at the next group function.



Dear self, please don’t let this stop you from continuing to spend time with the group. You’ve come this far and there’s still so much you want to learn and explore. Don’t turn back now.



Rox.

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

Dear Untamed_Tygress,

Your account on Literotica Discussion Board has been locked because someone has tried to log into the account with the wrong password more than 5 times. You will be able to attempt to log in again in another 15 minutes.
blocked!

Now that suck....... I am sorry some c*nt tryed to log into your account Untamed_Tygress. Hope it won't make you leave this boards!!

Things will get better again, I am glad you're around.