Day 41: The Obama Oilspill Goes On.

[amicus]

AMICUS

Kiss my ass Old Bastard. The incident was no act of God, it was malpractice at best, and likely criminal negligence. The whole shebang is one fuck up after another. It isnt an accident, its gross incompetence.[/QUOTE]

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JBJ, ass-kissing is not my forte. Document any of the above bolded statements you made or you will deserve being classified with the 'usual suspects' as being nothing more than an emotional twat.

the always amicable....amicus

 

[Dragonlipz]

You? Honest? Hardly? A hypocrite, yes. For starters, you don't know squat about me or my honesty so save your breath. You of all people should be ashamed to admit you're prejudiced against anyone, especially since you see a racist and a bigot behind every tree and are perpetually offended by practically anything anyone says about minorities.

Like I said, predictable and boring...and hateful.

But unerringly accurate: you are a racist and homophobe.....not to mention an uneducated hillbilly.....drill, dude, drill.............

 

[Dragonlipz]

AMICUS

Kiss my ass Old Bastard. The incident was no act of God, it was malpractice at best, and likely criminal negligence. The whole shebang is one fuck up after another. It isnt an accident, its gross incompetence.[/QUOTE]

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JBJ, ass-kissing is not my forte. Document any of the above bolded statements you made or you will deserve being classified with the 'usual suspects' as being nothing more than an emotional twat.

the always amicable....amicus

Can't you two just get along? I'm gone for a day or two and you're at each other's throats!!! Shame on you children!
JBJ, be nice to Ami, he's getting more senile every day. Yesterday he wanted to credit corporate America with the 40 hour work week, public schools, and an informed electorate.....he's forgotten how much he (and you) owe to progressives/liberals.......pity the old dude....and ignore his inane outbursts.....
He still thinks some drivel penned by a fiction writer is fact and worships her scrawny butt.....

 

[Stella_Omega]

You? Honest? Hardly? A hypocrite, yes. For starters, you don't know squat about me or my honesty so save your breath. You of all people should be ashamed to admit you're prejudiced against anyone, especially since you see a racist and a bigot behind every tree and are perpetually offended by practically anything anyone says about minorities.

Like I said, predictable and boring...and hateful.

Prejudice. Hypocrisy. These words do not mean what you think they mean.

 

[JackLuis]

BP's safety record?

As the nation comes to grips with the worst oil disaster in its history , there is evidence BP has one of the worst safety track records of any major oil company operating in the United States.
The employees stationed on the Gulf oil rig testify in a congressional hearing.

In two separate disasters prior to the Gulf oil rig explosion, 30 BP workers have been killed, and more than 200 seriously injured.

In the last five years, investigators found, BP has admitted to breaking U.S. environmental and safety laws and committing outright fraud. BP paid $373 million in fines to avoid prosecution.

BP's safety violations far outstrip its fellow oil companies. According to the Center for Public Integrity, in the last three years, BP refineries in Ohio and Texas have accounted for 97 percent of the "egregious, willful" violations handed out by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA).

Just a Corporation trying to make a profit?

 

[Loring2]

Simple but...

Prejudice. Hypocrisy. These words do not mean what you think they mean.

Tell me what you think they mean Stella; lets see if we went to different schools together.

 

[xssve]

AMICUS

Kiss my ass Old Bastard. The incident was no act of God, it was malpractice at best, and likely criminal negligence. The whole shebang is one fuck up after another. It isnt an accident, its gross incompetence.[/QUOTE]

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JBJ, ass-kissing is not my forte. Document any of the above bolded statements you made or you will deserve being classified with the 'usual suspects' as being nothing more than an emotional twat.

the always amicable....amicus

Oooh, ami is going to cast you out from the golden circle there JBJ, you have dared mock the great god of corporate profit margins.

The good news is, you get your balls back.

 

[Jagged]

Quod Est Demonstrat, thank you Jagged. Laud the free market for profits, blame the government for losses.

What, exactly will the government do when they "step in" that BP can't do?

Well let's see the Bush administration fined BP a number of times, and the Obama administration gave the oil platform in trouble a safety award. The government has responsibilities it isn't living up too.

 

[Dragonlipz]

Oooh, ami is going to cast you out from the golden circle there JBJ, you have dared mock the great god of corporate profit margins.

The good news is, you get your balls back.

He might not want them back and besides: I get dibs on them if he does........

 

[amicus]

As the nation comes to grips with the worst oil disaster in its history , there is evidence BP has one of the worst safety track records of any major oil company operating in the United States.
The employees stationed on the Gulf oil rig testify in a congressional hearing.

In two separate disasters prior to the Gulf oil rig explosion, 30 BP workers have been killed, and more than 200 seriously injured.

In the last five years, investigators found, BP has admitted to breaking U.S. environmental and safety laws and committing outright fraud. BP paid $373 million in fines to avoid prosecution.

BP's safety violations far outstrip its fellow oil companies. According to the Center for Public Integrity, in the last three years, BP refineries in Ohio and Texas have accounted for 97 percent of the "egregious, willful" violations handed out by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA).

Just a Corporation trying to make a profit?

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JackLuis....are you really that naive or just pretending? OSHA and the EPA earn a living by levying fines against corporate interests. It is called corruption, bribes and Baksheesh, nothing new in government and the reason you get conflicting fines and safety awards, sometimes in the same week!

Ain't it wunneful?



Amicus

 

[JackLuis]

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JackLuis....are you really that naive or just pretending? OSHA and the EPA earn a living by levying fines against corporate interests. It is called corruption, bribes and Baksheesh, nothing new in government and the reason you get conflicting fines and safety awards, sometimes in the same week!

Ain't it wunneful?



Amicus

I was actually looking for a article I read that says BP has had over 740 safety violations in the last several years, while the other Major Oil Co's have had as high as 6-8 in the same period.

BP has made a business of baksheesh and bribery, it comes from their English heritage. If the MMS is corrupt, it was made that way by the last administration, although I wouldn't limit the accusation to just "W".

 

[DeeZire]

Well let's see the Bush administration fined BP a number of times, and the Obama administration gave the oil platform in trouble a safety award. The government has responsibilities it isn't living up too.

1. The Bush administration staffed the MMS with a bunch of oil company stooges whose idea of regulation was snorting coke with oil company employees. Plus, the oil companies bought off politicians, (twice and many R's as D's) to make sure no regulations were enacted.

2. Before the oil rig disaster, government regulation was hindering the free market, at least according to conservatives. But now, conservatives are saying the government should have had more regulations in place to avert the disaster. You can't have it both ways. Well, actually, you can, but it just makes you look like a clueless ideologue.

 

[DeeZire]

Unfortunately the only credible evidence that it was incompetence is either fish food or one mile down with the well head....

There is a mountain of evidence that it was incompetence that sunk the Deepwater Horizon, but if you keep saying there is no evidence, perhaps you can make it so. That's how you guys work, right? Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/27/deepwater-horizon-workers_n_591515.html

NEW ORLEANS — As the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig burned around him, Chris Pleasant hesitated, waiting for approval from his superiors before activating the emergency disconnect system that was supposed to slam the oil well shut at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

The delay may have cost critical seconds. When Pleasant and his co-workers at rig owner Transocean finally got the go-ahead to throw the emergency disconnect switch, they realized there was no hydraulic power to operate the machinery.

Dozens of witness statements obtained by The Associated Press show a combination of equipment failure and a deference to the chain of command impeded the system that should have stopped the gusher before it became an environmental disaster.

At a Coast Guard hearing that started earlier this month and continued in New Orleans on Wednesday, Doug Brown, chief rig mechanic aboard the platform, testified that the trouble began at a meeting hours before the blowout, with a "skirmish" between a BP official and rig workers who did not want to replace heavy drilling fluid in the well with saltwater.

The switch presumably would have allowed the company to remove the fluid and use it for another project, but the seawater would have provided less weight to counteract the surging pressure from the ocean depths.

Brown said the BP official, whom he identified only as the "company man," overruled the drillers, declaring, "This is how it's going to be." Brown said the top Transocean official on the rig grumbled, "Well, I guess that's what we have those pinchers for," which he took to be a reference to devices on the blowout preventer, the five-story piece of equipment that can slam a well shut in an emergency.

In a handwritten statement to the Coast Guard obtained by the AP, Transocean rig worker Truitt Crawford said: "I overheard upper management talking saying that BP was taking shortcuts by displacing the well with saltwater instead of mud without sealing the well with cement plugs, this is why it blew out."

BP declined to comment on his statement.

 

[amicus]

For your information and education, NatGeo program #186, "Deep Sea Drillers", original air date 01/25/07, rerunning again tonight....guess why?

The project is called the Independence Hub, drilled in 9,000 feet of water and then another 12,000 feet into the earth, 15 different wells connecting to a central processing hub and then to a 135 miles long underwater pipe to the Lousiana coast.

The technology is amazing to watch, the vessels and equipment used gigantic, and the safety measures admirable, thisis one well worth watching...amazing!

Amicus