Dawn: Voice of bearlee

bearlee said:
Nope, just getting a little late for Christmas-they're pretty cool though-I think.



Sit tight on them and post them next Christmas, who's to know the difference :cool:
 
ran57gr said:
Man, you are in for an exciting day :cool: :rolleyes:

:D

Spanish class for me.... gotta runnnnnnnn.....

~~she's gone~~

Well, we only have to do 16, since the holiday is for Washington's and Lincoln's birthdays. We try to forget 3 or 4 of the last 6. :rolleyes:

Have a happy Tuesday. :kiss:
 
MaverickMan said:
Well, we only have to do 16, since the holiday is for Washington's and Lincoln's birthdays. We try to forget 3 or 4 of the last 6. :rolleyes:

Have a happy Tuesday. :kiss:

Used to be-I read somewhere it's for all presidents-including probably the two or three you wanna forget :D
 
MaverickMan said:
According to him he is not an "EX". Just living out of country. :rolleyes: :D


Actually I like him a lot and I wish things had gone a little better for him, he had to deal with too much shit and intrigue while very young and inexperienced.

A few years ago he was interviewed by Larry King, here is the link if you care to read...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/26/lkl.00.html

I am copy/pasting an excerpt here, where he speaks of his meeting with President Eisenhower and a small incident re a speeding ticket :D
Also, couple of weeks ago, he was interviewed by a Greek reporter and he gave a few more details which I am inserting in red fonts as I heard them on the TV.




“” .........

KING: Boy, we're learning a lot here tonight.

You visited the United States as a prince. I understand you met President Eisenhower. You got a speeding ticket and the president knew about that? What's that story?

CONSTANTINE: Well, the president of the United States, Eisenhower, was a very close personal friend of my father. And my father called me one day into his office, and he said, "Pack your bags and go to the United States." And I said, "What am I going to do there?" I was about -- just 18. And he said, "You're going to be a guest of Eisenhower, and you're going to travel throughout the whole of the country and see all the industrial and military complexes. You're going to go to all the universities and see them, and spend the next year doing just that."

And I was extremely lucky because that was -- I had to grow up very quickly. I was not allowed to take anybody from my homeland with me. I had never written a speech by myself before. I had never given a press conference before. In fact, I had never cashed a check or bought an airline ticket before.

And so, when I arrived in the United States I had to do all that, and you grow up very quickly then.

( One of the things he did, was to look up a cousin of his, Simeon II of Bulgaria who at the time was enrolled at the Valley Forge Military Academy in Pennsylvania under the name Simeon Rylski http://www.vfmac.edu/alumni/bio_Gotha.shtml
The Prince walked up at the gate and asked the guard for “cadet Rylski”. The guard threw him a look and said “That’s me, you bozo!” It was indeed Simeon himself and they spent some time together.)


And one day I was driving a car with a cousin of mine, and we skidded across a red light, and we collided with another car which a lady was driving. Thank goodness no harm was done to her, but I had smashed the lamp on the left side, and she said, "Let's exchange papers," and we did. And then the police turned up. I told them who I was, but they wouldn't believe me.

( The dialogue with the police officer...

OFFICER : Your name?
CONSTANTINE : Constantine.
OFFICER : Last name?
CONSTANTINE : Haven’t got one.
OFFICER : Who are you then?
CONSTANTINE : I’m the Crown Prince of Greece.
OFFICER : Who’s the guy with you?
CONSTANTINE : My cousin, Simeon.
OFFICER : Last name?
CONSTANTINE : He hasn’t got any, he’s the former King of Bulgaria.

:rolleyes: .... )



So I was locked in with my cousin in jail until the sergeant on duty released us. When I went to say goodbye to the president at the White House, the most influential man next to him was a gentleman by the name of Haggerty.

KING: Jim Haggerty.

CONSTANTINE: I came there with the Greek ambassador, aged -- yes. He was the press secretary. And they both told me that I had only 20 minutes with the president as a courtesy protocol visit, and in and out. And I said, "Fine, but I have a message from my father, the king, on the negotiations between Greece and Turkey on Cyprus." And they said, "I'm afraid you can't give any messages. This is a courtesy call and you're out."
So I got there, and the president was very kind to me. And I sat with the ambassador, Mr. Haggerty, and we talked about my visit. And then slowly, slowly -- you know, he had this very gentle way of talking to young people, and he gave me courage. And I turned around to him and I said, "You know, sir, I have a message from my father, the king." "You do?" And he looked at Haggerty and the Greek ambassador and said, "You both can leave the room right now."

And I stayed alone with him, gave him the message which took 30 seconds, and he kept me there for about 40 minutes, talking to me about the war, about the leaders he had met. You know, I never opened my mouth; I just listened.

And when I left the Oval Office, at the door he called me back, and he said, "Young man, come here." And I came back and I said, "Yes, Mr. President?" And he said, "What's this I hear about you going to jail?" I said, "Mr. President" -- I had no idea that he knew about that. And he said, "I don't mind you being picked up by the police in my country. What I want to know is, are you going to tell you dad or am I?"

I said, "No, I think I better tell him."

........””



:D



.
 
ran57gr said:
Actually I like him a lot and I wish things had gone a little better for him, he had to deal with too much shit and intrigue while very young and inexperienced.

A few years ago he was interviewed by Larry King, here is the link if you care to read...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0204/26/lkl.00.html

I am copy/pasting an excerpt here, where he speaks of his meeting with President Eisenhower and a small incident re a speeding ticket :D
Also, couple of weeks ago, he was interviewed by a Greek reporter and he gave a few more details which I am inserting in red fonts as I heard them on the TV.




“” .........

KING: Boy, we're learning a lot here tonight.

You visited the United States as a prince. I understand you met President Eisenhower. You got a speeding ticket and the president knew about that? What's that story?

CONSTANTINE: Well, the president of the United States, Eisenhower, was a very close personal friend of my father. And my father called me one day into his office, and he said, "Pack your bags and go to the United States." And I said, "What am I going to do there?" I was about -- just 18. And he said, "You're going to be a guest of Eisenhower, and you're going to travel throughout the whole of the country and see all the industrial and military complexes. You're going to go to all the universities and see them, and spend the next year doing just that."

And I was extremely lucky because that was -- I had to grow up very quickly. I was not allowed to take anybody from my homeland with me. I had never written a speech by myself before. I had never given a press conference before. In fact, I had never cashed a check or bought an airline ticket before.

And so, when I arrived in the United States I had to do all that, and you grow up very quickly then.

( One of the things he did, was to look up a cousin of his, Simeon II of Bulgaria who at the time was enrolled at the Valley Forge Military Academy in Pennsylvania under the name Simeon Rylski http://www.vfmac.edu/alumni/bio_Gotha.shtml
The Prince walked up at the gate and asked the guard for “cadet Rylski”. The guard threw him a look and said “That’s me, you bozo!” It was indeed Simeon himself and they spent some time together.)


And one day I was driving a car with a cousin of mine, and we skidded across a red light, and we collided with another car which a lady was driving. Thank goodness no harm was done to her, but I had smashed the lamp on the left side, and she said, "Let's exchange papers," and we did. And then the police turned up. I told them who I was, but they wouldn't believe me.

( The dialogue with the police officer...

OFFICER : Your name?
CONSTANTINE : Constantine.
OFFICER : Last name?
CONSTANTINE : Haven’t got one.
OFFICER : Who are you then?
CONSTANTINE : I’m the Crown Prince of Greece.
OFFICER : Who’s the guy with you?
CONSTANTINE : My cousin, Simeon.
OFFICER : Last name?
CONSTANTINE : He hasn’t got any, he’s the former King of Bulgaria.

:rolleyes: .... )



So I was locked in with my cousin in jail until the sergeant on duty released us. When I went to say goodbye to the president at the White House, the most influential man next to him was a gentleman by the name of Haggerty.

KING: Jim Haggerty.

CONSTANTINE: I came there with the Greek ambassador, aged -- yes. He was the press secretary. And they both told me that I had only 20 minutes with the president as a courtesy protocol visit, and in and out. And I said, "Fine, but I have a message from my father, the king, on the negotiations between Greece and Turkey on Cyprus." And they said, "I'm afraid you can't give any messages. This is a courtesy call and you're out."
So I got there, and the president was very kind to me. And I sat with the ambassador, Mr. Haggerty, and we talked about my visit. And then slowly, slowly -- you know, he had this very gentle way of talking to young people, and he gave me courage. And I turned around to him and I said, "You know, sir, I have a message from my father, the king." "You do?" And he looked at Haggerty and the Greek ambassador and said, "You both can leave the room right now."

And I stayed alone with him, gave him the message which took 30 seconds, and he kept me there for about 40 minutes, talking to me about the war, about the leaders he had met. You know, I never opened my mouth; I just listened.

And when I left the Oval Office, at the door he called me back, and he said, "Young man, come here." And I came back and I said, "Yes, Mr. President?" And he said, "What's this I hear about you going to jail?" I said, "Mr. President" -- I had no idea that he knew about that. And he said, "I don't mind you being picked up by the police in my country. What I want to know is, are you going to tell you dad or am I?"

I said, "No, I think I better tell him."

........””



:D



.

That was an interesting bit of History. Thanks Ran
 
Greek Royalty

I'm glad that an off hand comment can keep a thread going for a page or two. The feeling of power, I luv it. :rolleyes:
 
MJO said:
I'm glad that an off hand comment can keep a thread going for a page or two. The feeling of power, I luv it. :rolleyes:

Could be, I didn't read it yet. I don't like Larry King because he's a puppet for every health pill that comes out and doesn't work. I did read his interview with Imus in the Morning as in Don that he had. Kind of interesting-not Larry-Don and his young wife!
 
Weenieschnitzel said:

Actually, in my opinion we've had a string of not cool presidents dating back to 1964 and you could probably go back even further. Everybody I always thought would be good lost in the primaries over the years for the most part.

Uh no-you don't have to be dead to be a president :rolleyes: You can be, or you can be near death or just living like an idiot but a past president like Carter. You can be living and doing some good stuff like Clinton and Bush do nowadays for the most part or I guess you can be the sitting president.

My opinion, Jefferson was one or the better ones although you wouldn't like him if you read his history. He was alot like George Bush in certain respects but not in others. JFK may have made an impact but we'll never know. RFK may have been a good president but we'll never know that either. My guess is FDR was pretty good based on what I've read. Each one brings their own strengths and weaknesses to office, serve their time and move on. It really in one sense doesn't matter anymore. Congress and the President will fight each other for years to come and I'm thinking we haven't had a statesman for a long time.

So you go with the flow. Support whoever is president at the time, or be critical-it doesn't matter in this country because we can do that shit although I'm not sure anyone cares(except those that do.) We're deeply polarized and I suspect that will go on for decades now. Therefore, you take the day off if it's offered and like other national holidays, you probably don't give a thought to why you're off. So, it should be a celebration of sorts and some people give really nice speeches on certain holidays, but most people are watching the Olympics or American Idol or some such nonsense.

Call me a pessimist weenie, but I don't see any good stuff happening as far as a president in the future. Best thing to do is keep locked and loaded for the time the country and the world go to shit. It shouldn't be too long now. The EU, and probably us with 'em, will do the appeasement thing on Hamas and Iran and believe they really would cause no harm to Israel because they'll say it and some fucks here will buy into it and at point- BANG-YOU'RE DEAD!!!
 
bearlee said:
Actually, in my opinion we've had a string of not cool presidents dating back to 1964 and you could probably go back even further. Everybody I always thought would be good lost in the primaries over the years for the most part.

Uh no-you don't have to be dead to be a president :rolleyes: You can be, or you can be near death or just living like an idiot but a past president like Carter. You can be living and doing some good stuff like Clinton and Bush do nowadays for the most part or I guess you can be the sitting president.

My opinion, Jefferson was one or the better ones although you wouldn't like him if you read his history. He was alot like George Bush in certain respects but not in others. JFK may have made an impact but we'll never know. RFK may have been a good president but we'll never know that either. My guess is FDR was pretty good based on what I've read. Each one brings their own strengths and weaknesses to office, serve their time and move on. It really in one sense doesn't matter anymore. Congress and the President will fight each other for years to come and I'm thinking we haven't had a statesman for a long time.

So you go with the flow. Support whoever is president at the time, or be critical-it doesn't matter in this country because we can do that shit although I'm not sure anyone cares(except those that do.) We're deeply polarized and I suspect that will go on for decades now. Therefore, you take the day off if it's offered and like other national holidays, you probably don't give a thought to why you're off. So, it should be a celebration of sorts and some people give really nice speeches on certain holidays, but most people are watching the Olympics or American Idol or some such nonsense.

Call me a pessimist weenie, but I don't see any good stuff happening as far as a president in the future. Best thing to do is keep locked and loaded for the time the country and the world go to shit. It shouldn't be too long now. The EU, and probably us with 'em, will do the appeasement thing on Hamas and Iran and believe they really would cause no harm to Israel because they'll say it and some fucks here will buy into it and at point- BANG-YOU'RE DEAD!!!
I appreciate the amount of time that took to type in.. I agree with you. It is a position I wouldn't want or want to be in. Every one has an opinion.. and you know what they say about opinions.. they are like asshole and stink.
 
supahspaz said:
I appreciate the amount of time that took to type in.. I agree with you. It is a position I wouldn't want or want to be in. Every one has an opinion.. and you know what they say about opinions.. they are like asshole and stink.

Doesn't take much time but thanks. I just type off the top of my head and don't really proofread. So, there's two opinions now-you wanna be asshole or stink -You choose and I'll take the other :D
 
bearlee said:
Doesn't take much time but thanks. I just type off the top of my head and don't really proofread. So, there's two opinions now-you wanna be asshole or stink -You choose and I'll take the other :D
Hell I am BOTH so.... ;) just ask around I am sure someone will agree with that :rolleyes:
 
supahspaz said:
Hell I am BOTH so.... ;) just ask around I am sure someone will agree with that :rolleyes:

You know-I guess you're right-I sent PMs to over 400 people and they all agree :D
 
bearlee said:
Actually, in my opinion we've had a string of not cool presidents dating back to 1964 and you could probably go back even further. Everybody I always thought would be good lost in the primaries over the years for the most part.

Uh no-you don't have to be dead to be a president :rolleyes: You can be, or you can be near death or just living like an idiot but a past president like Carter. You can be living and doing some good stuff like Clinton and Bush do nowadays for the most part or I guess you can be the sitting president.

My opinion, Jefferson was one or the better ones although you wouldn't like him if you read his history. He was alot like George Bush in certain respects but not in others. JFK may have made an impact but we'll never know. RFK may have been a good president but we'll never know that either. My guess is FDR was pretty good based on what I've read. Each one brings their own strengths and weaknesses to office, serve their time and move on. It really in one sense doesn't matter anymore. Congress and the President will fight each other for years to come and I'm thinking we haven't had a statesman for a long time.

So you go with the flow. Support whoever is president at the time, or be critical-it doesn't matter in this country because we can do that shit although I'm not sure anyone cares(except those that do.) We're deeply polarized and I suspect that will go on for decades now. Therefore, you take the day off if it's offered and like other national holidays, you probably don't give a thought to why you're off. So, it should be a celebration of sorts and some people give really nice speeches on certain holidays, but most people are watching the Olympics or American Idol or some such nonsense.

Call me a pessimist weenie, but I don't see any good stuff happening as far as a president in the future. Best thing to do is keep locked and loaded for the time the country and the world go to shit. It shouldn't be too long now. The EU, and probably us with 'em, will do the appeasement thing on Hamas and Iran and believe they really would cause no harm to Israel because they'll say it and some fucks here will buy into it and at point- BANG-YOU'RE DEAD!!!


I always wonder why I hear just bad stuff about Carter. My favourite president in US is still Abraham Lincoln, regardless the fact that he was republican. But I share his interest for fashion (hats for him, skirts for me).

I think I still start to become governeur in Ohio and I will wait until Arnold kicks the stuff that a president must be born in US.

The problem about Israel: A part of my family is jewish and the other part is german. So I see always 2 different point of views. But you know: a german saying something bad about Israel is always a nazi. :mad:
 
bearlee said:
You know-I guess you're right-I sent PMs to over 400 people and they all agree :D
Wellllll ... I didn't get the PM ... but you can make it 401 nonetheless! :D

Although frankly, I thought being a stink and an asshole always sort of went together anyway. Will admit though ... spaz seems to take them to new levels! :eek:
 
Weenieschnitzel said:
I always wonder why I hear just bad stuff about Carter. My favourite president in US is still Abraham Lincoln, regardless the fact that he was republican. But I share his interest for fashion (hats for him, skirts for me).

I think I still start to become governeur in Ohio and I will wait until Arnold kicks the stuff that a president must be born in US.

The problem about Israel: A part of my family is jewish and the other part is german. So I see always 2 different point of views. But you know: a german saying something bad about Israel is always a nazi. :mad:

Republicans and Democrats and whatever else the fuck we had back then doesn't mean the same thing today as it did then. Today he'd probably be considered a Democrat even though it's the Republicans that tend to elevate blacks to higher levels in government nowadays. Tokenism-who knows-who cares. Ohio is probably going to have a black governor this time next year, or at least a good chance it will. The dude is a republican. See weenie, you get too hung up on labels. So Gov. Weens, you're first official act should be to pardon the current governor. Corrupt little fucker and he's a republican, but then again, we have corrupt democrats right now that governors. We're an equal opportunity corrupt society. That's why we hate foreigners that blast one party or the other. There both equally as bad as they wanna be.

Now on the Nazi thing, easy solution-don't say anything bad :cool: Hell weenie, we have our own Nazis here. The last time one of them seriously ran for an office he ran as a democrat. Well, he was more of KKK dude, but pretty much the same thing.

Best bet for you when it comes to badmouthing our political parties, do 'em both and urge everyone to become a libertarian.

TomOne said:
Wellllll ... I didn't get the PM ... but you can make it 401 nonetheless! :D

Although frankly, I thought being a stink and an asshole always sort of went together anyway. Will admit though ... spaz seems to take them to new levels! :eek:

Oh cool-Chicken Bondage!

COCK-A-TOMA-DOO!!!
 
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