Cut vs. Uncut

[drummer34]

Mintsoda will you answer the question, or do you prefer to ignore those you cant argue with?



"What are the yearly percentage of americans that gets penile cancer?"



Simple question that needs an simple answer.

 

[MintSoda]

Mintsoda will you answer the question, or do you prefer to ignore those you cant argue with?



"What are the yearly percentage of americans that gets penile cancer?"



Simple question that needs an simple answer.

I did answer, I said I don't care. I'm not American, I never brought up penile cancer, and I don't know why you think I did. The answer is I DON'T CARE. You're trying to argue a point with me that I never said anything about. If you need an answer I suggest you go to the American Cancer Institute website and find out for yourself. The fact of the matter is, you're the only one on this thread that has every mentioned anything about penile cancer.

I am going to ignore you though. I can't argue with you simply because I never brought up anything about penile cancer. You can look back and check my posts on this thread or any other thread. Do you want me to take the antithesis to your argument simply because nobody else will?

Argue with ImpEater or whatever that guy's name is...he seems to like railing on people simply for the sake of feeling like a big man, I think you two would make a smashing couple.

To review for you so you don't keep pestering:
~ I am not American, I've said as much, it's in my little location by line next to my name, so why would I care about American penile cancer?
~ I never brought up penile cancer; you did, so why are you asking me about it?
~ I am ignoring you now, so don't bother answering any of these questions, I'm here to discuss, not argue, if you want to argue with someone I suggest you take some anger management courses or go get yourself a life.

 

[EarnestImp]

I did answer, I said I don't care. I'm not American, I never brought up penile cancer, and I don't know why you think I did.

Hey, you're probably right. drummer34 did wrongly criticise you at a number of points. The problem is that you somehow managed to confuse him with me, and began attacking and insulting me, using increasingly bogus, contrived, and just plain wrong arguments. At this point, yes, I did go for your jugular. I have little patience for fools that insult me.

 

[supahstoopid]

Ummm....to answer the original question

This is one of the most interesting, and ultimately intense strings I've read, talking about Chi Squared and linear trends, bell curves, implications for correlation coefficients, etc. etc.. I never looked at my 'prepuce' so scientifically before. I feel like removing it just for the sake of preserving it in formeldahyde. I'm no intellectual foreskin aficionado, though I was quite impressed by the exchanges I read, although saddened that it degraded to people getting offended. I can't speak for the ladies, but to be honest I never gave having a foreskin much thought, and I find it almost inconceivable that having one would make it more difficult to perform oral sex, unless it was flaccid (the penis that is). Mine simply rolls back and looks like a circumcised penis whenever I have an erection. Unless these other people have a superfluous amount of skin there, I would assume that this is the case for most individuals. Perhaps those people should stop jumping around in trees (just kidding). I'm not sure, but I've suspected for a long time that having a foreskin makes me more sensitive. My girlfirend need only perform the slightest ministrations on my penis to give me a buzz, so I don't know how oral sex could be more difficult as some have put it. Hell, my girl needs to only rub my...er..ahem...against her lips and I'm in seventh heaven, and I'm often pulling away so I can prolong the experience.

As for hygiene--well that's a no brainer: clean yourself. If I'm not clean for whatever reason, the police tape goes up, it's that simple. As I said, I never gave it much thought until now. I was fascinated to find out the lubrication thing--I thought that was just some kinky fetish. Poor blokes. That's my two cents, and that's about what it's worth.

Regards all.

Soup Past Two Pid

 

[EarnestImp]

I'm not sure, but I've suspected for a long time that having a foreskin makes me more sensitive.

Studies of post-circumcision male response can be ambiguous, but here are some refererence: This study showed a 60% increase in time to ejaculation, and this one also found reported decreased sensitivity from circ. Other studies using electromechanical tests of sensitivity don't find a difference. Perhaps perceived sexual sensitivity and lab-measured sensitivity are two different things.

The British explorer Richard Burton was circed so he could pass as a Moslem and enter Mecca and afterwards he wrote: "Male circumcision makes love slow and difficult. For the softness of the gland [sic] is hardened by friction, hence coitus is painful, slow, and not energetic enough." (Captain Sir Richard Francis Burton, 1990, by Edward Rice).

 

[MintSoda]

This is one of the most interesting, and ultimately intense strings I've read, talking about Chi Squared and linear trends, bell curves, implications for correlation coefficients, etc. etc.. I never looked at my 'prepuce' so scientifically before. I feel like removing it just for the sake of preserving it in formeldahyde. I'm no intellectual foreskin aficionado, though I was quite impressed by the exchanges I read, although saddened that it degraded to people getting offended. I can't speak for the ladies, but to be honest I never gave having a foreskin much thought, and I find it almost inconceivable that having one would make it more difficult to perform oral sex, unless it was flaccid (the penis that is). Mine simply rolls back and looks like a circumcised penis whenever I have an erection. Unless these other people have a superfluous amount of skin there, I would assume that this is the case for most individuals. Perhaps those people should stop jumping around in trees (just kidding). I'm not sure, but I've suspected for a long time that having a foreskin makes me more sensitive. My girlfirend need only perform the slightest ministrations on my penis to give me a buzz, so I don't know how oral sex could be more difficult as some have put it. Hell, my girl needs to only rub my...er..ahem...against her lips and I'm in seventh heaven, and I'm often pulling away so I can prolong the experience.

As for hygiene--well that's a no brainer: clean yourself. If I'm not clean for whatever reason, the police tape goes up, it's that simple. As I said, I never gave it much thought until now. I was fascinated to find out the lubrication thing--I thought that was just some kinky fetish. Poor blokes. That's my two cents, and that's about what it's worth.

Regards all.

Soup Past Two Pid

It actually seems rather intuitive doesn't it? Taking away sensitive skin from the penis decreases sensitivity. Aesthetically speaking I personally think all (men and women's) genitalia is funny looking, a turtleneck or v-neck isn't really going to change that for me. I should wonder though, if all uncut men have your restraint to pull back and prolong? Although that seems more like user error than equipment failure.

 

[drummer34]

I did answer, I said I don't care. I'm not American, I never brought up penile cancer, and I don't know why you think I did. The answer is I DON'T CARE. You're trying to argue a point with me that I never said anything about. If you need an answer I suggest you go to the American Cancer Institute website and find out for yourself. The fact of the matter is, you're the only one on this thread that has every mentioned anything about penile cancer.

OK then it's me that is saying sorry. A lot of this discussion has centered on health therefore i assumed that you argued for circumsition out of health reasons. If your argument is that you think it looks/feels better then i won't argue against you, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Some like Halle Berry, some don't that is a matter of taste.

My point is that there are NO OTHER reasons than looks to circumsize and therefore i strongly believe it should be illegal to do it to anyone until that person can make he's own desicions.

OK?

 

[supahstoopid]

I should wonder though, if all uncut men have your restraint to pull back and prolong? Although that seems more like user error than equipment failure

That's funny! It probably IS 'user error'--I guess my equipment is more like a strongly sensitive fire alarm--you know; the type that goes off when you make toast. At worst, it's over-engineered, (I guess that's the point some people have been making). I hope I don't go extinct!

Regards,

Supe AAAAAH Stoop Iliad

 

[StevenWill]

Someday

Someday we will all move beyond this silly debate and realize that it just makes little or no difference. I am uncut. I have never even had a bladder infection, let alone a prostate infection. Penile cancer is extremely rare and also occurs in men who are curcumcized along the circumcision scar, when it does occur. Women have many more urinary tract infections than men and I am sure someone could suggest that we remove the clitoral hood or some of the inner lips.

It is just statistically irrelevant when we consider other problems that we might have in life, like lung or breast cancer. I hope we don't start removing breasts as a preventative measure.

I don't choose partners based on their breast size or shape. Anyone who shops for men based on the conformation of their penis is wadding the shallow end of the sexual pond.

Cut or uncut, let it be.

Steve

 

[Guest]

Cut vs. Uncut
When sucking cock, can anyone tell me the difference between sucking a cock with a foreskin vs. one that is cut?

I have seen this question ever since the thread started, and I'm going to be honest. Maybe a little blunt, but please take no offense anyone.

I have been with both- cut and uncut. The skin helps with jerking at the same time I suck, which I like. But what I don't like about a man being uncut is that there is always an odor, no matter how much they wash. An odor I'm not too crazy about.

I do find it more fun sucking cock that isn't cut, but having sex always seemed to be a pain in the ass because the man always had to go down between my legs to remove the skin that was covering his cock, so he could get the "feel". And that was really annoying.

 

[EarnestImp]

I have seen this question ever since the thread started, and I'm going to be honest. Maybe a little blunt, but please take no offense anyone.
I have been with both- cut and uncut. The skin helps with jerking at the same time I suck, which I like. But what I don't like about a man being uncut is that there is always an odor, no matter how much they wash. An odor I'm not too crazy about.

I feel sort of the same way about the labia - they trap odor (even smegma - I've seen it), and many are not terribly aesthetic. On the other hand, they are fun to play with, and I would never every think of asking a woman to have them trimmed off for my benefit - that would be just unthinkably warped.

 

[phoenix1224]

<snip> I would never every think of asking a woman to have them trimmed off for my benefit - that would be just unthinkably warped.

A little factoid:

The "trimming" of the labia to achieve a more asthetically pleasing appearance is called labiaplasty... It's become a fairly common procedure performed by plastic surgeons.

 

[SlyKitten]

.........
My point is that there are NO OTHER reasons than looks to circumsize and therefore i strongly believe it should be illegal to do it to anyone until that person can make he's own desicions.
.......

What about religious beliefs?
Please don't flame me!

 

[EarnestImp]

A little factoid:
The "trimming" of the labia to achieve a more asthetically pleasing appearance is called labiaplasty... It's become a fairly common procedure performed by plastic surgeons.

I've heard of this. I thought it was limited to porn stars and women whose labia pinched (like when riding a bike).

But I'll be damned ... you're right: Labiaplasty will not only recreate more youthful and aesthetically pleasing external genital structures, but will also restore self-image and self-esteem!

I've gotta admit I prefer the 'after' photos, but I wouldn't want to force this on anyone. Eeek! Sometimes selfish aesthetic considerations have to be put aside in favor of accepting people as they are.

 

[Guest]

I've heard of this. I thought it was limited to porn stars and women whose labia pinched (like when riding a bike).

But I'll be damned ... you're right: Labiaplasty will not only recreate more youthful and aesthetically pleasing external genital structures, but will also restore self-image and self-esteem!

I've gotta admit I prefer the 'after' photos, but I wouldn't want to force this on anyone. Eeek! Sometimes selfish aesthetic considerations have to be put aside in favor of accepting people as they are.

You know, I see these links on Lit and always click them. Sometimes, I just wanna slap myself for it

 

[EarnestImp]

You know, I see these links on Lit and always click them. Sometimes, I just wanna slap myself for it

so are you tempted to call Doc Stern for a slice? your men might just love you for it!

 

[geishaGirl]

I actually prefer uncut. My first serious boyfriend was circumcised and my husband isn't. When I was first with my husband I found it a bit different, but it didn't take long to adjust to. It does feel different going down on each one, hate to state the obvious but with an uncircumcised penis there is more skin in your mouth! And I'm not sure, because of my limited sexual history (only the 2 men), but my husband isn't really sensitive if I use my tongue on the point where the foreskin joins the top of the penis whereas my boyfriend was. I don't know if that's because he's uncircumcised or if it's just a personal thing

 

[Guest]

so are you tempted to call Doc Stern for a slice? your men might just love you for it!

Men? Singular.

Tempted to call?? Nah, never had complaints.

Watch it, buddy.

 

[EarnestImp]

...but my husband isn't really sensitive if I use my tongue on the point where the foreskin joins the top of the penis whereas my boyfriend was. I don't know if that's because he's uncircumcised or if it's just a personal thing

This is where the frenulum is located, sort of a web or fold that connects the foreskin to the tip and helps draw the foreskin forward when an erection is over. The usual claim is that the frenulum is very sensitive, and is mostly cut off in circumcised men. So in this case your observation contradicts the usual claim. (I'm not saying you're wrong, naturally).

 

[Luv2PleasureF]

Men? Singular.

Tempted to call?? Nah, never had complaints.

Watch it, buddy.

If you even thought about calling Dr. Stern, I WOULD have a complaint!

Fact is, you just can't improve on perfection.

Your delectable kitty doesn't need a knife, it just needs my tongue... and fingers... and...

 

[Guest]

Oh dear

 

[truecelt2]

Uncut here; Labiaplasty!

I'm uncut and living in the Midwest US. Seems to be kind of a rarity for many women to see. Can't begin to describe the sensations of the tight foreskin when fully erect.

As for cleanliness - some chaps just don't polish their rockets enough I suppose.

As for the whole labiaplasty thing - I'm AGHAST!
Give me those beautiful full flowery petals anyday!
Mmmm so pleasant to tease with my own lips...

 

[silverwhisper]

i suspect that the longer a given man's family has been in the US, the more likely he is to be cut. in rural areas, where the population tends to be more homogenous, that would suggest that the male population will skew more heavily towards having been cut, whereas in urban areas where the population tends to be more heterogenous, that tendency will be less.

ed

 

[tinaxxx]

hah that arguement was to funny...

 

[YANKEE DAN]

Cut. I don't know why, just personal preferance