Cut vs. Uncut

[SlickTony]

This thread has been so interesting and educational. I'm sorry now that I didn't have more of a chance to inspect uncut cocks closely enough--I guess that's what I get for starting out with guys from the Middle East. The only one I ever saw up close was in the process of a hasty encounter in a dorm, with his mates on the outside hollering for us to hurry up already. He was a Latino guy. I would have liked to learn more about the matter, but things never worked out that way, and then I got engaged to my second husband, who's also cut, so I guess I'll never find out except via the Internet. We had our son done, but I really don't know why now. My impression at the time was that the doctor took as little he possibly could, and a later pediatrician said that we might ought to think about getting it done again, but we never did. I haven't see the object in question in several years, but I'm sure if he was having any problems with it he'd tell his dad.

I'm amazed at all these convoluted and bepetalled labia I saw in the plastic surgery ad. Makes me feel like mine is very plain.

 

[yourmissl]

I've only been with one uncut man.

Without question the best, most exciting, most orgasm inducing lover ever.

So, until I saw this thread, I sort-of wondered/figured uncut was better.

 

[Traveler78]

My point is that there are NO OTHER reasons than looks to circumsize and therefore i strongly believe it should be illegal to do it to anyone until that person can make he's own desicions.

OK?

That may not be entirely true. There is some evidence to suggest that circumcision reduces risk of HIV transmission from vaginal sex.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/circumcision.htm

 

[m468h]

A cock is a cock is a cock, really.

I can't see it makes all that much difference.

But then I again I have only been with uncut men, so maybe I'm really missing out on something!

I disagree. That's like saying every person is the same. Not true. Every cock is different and unique, just like every pussy is, etc.

I personally have never had "uncut" but most cocks I've come across have been wonderful. I've seen, in photos, some really nasty ones, though.

I suppose it's all what your preference is......

maybe I'm picky??

 

[Dregun]

I'm cut, my wife preferes cut and our son is to be born in just a few months and we are going to get him cut.

Now, before others jump in and call us "Evil child abusers who want nothing more than to selfishly "torture" our son" let me explain why we are doing it.

I have known 2 (subsequently the only 2 males that I knew who were uncirced) who had to get circumsized due to some condition that didn't let the foreskin move correctly. They were both 19 at the time (Twins) and had to have the operation performed because having foreskin made sex impossible and erections painfull. These were grown men (although 19) who cried everytime they had an erection because they would bleed and be in pain. They couldn't tell thier parents about it and had to wait until they were old enough to go to the Dr by themselves.

Even us, there friends didn't know they had this problem until after they had the operation. We thought they were virgins for another reason (as they would tell us they wanted to wait) but after they were cut and healed they became sexually active people. Boy/Guys are very sensitive when it comes to our cocks; thats why we are always concerned about size and other nonsense. So I had to ask myself would I rather have a circumsision that might not be needed when I'm too young to know it happend or hope that when I'm older I wont need one?


My Mother inlaw is a nurse and has HUNDREDS of stories of boys and men of all ages needing to have a circumsision long after being born. She has encouraged us to get it done, she has cared for these men and boys after their surgery and has made those feelings known to us for a very long time.

If I could leave my son uncut and in the future if he needed to be cut he could go back in time to when he was a baby and never know the difference between having forskin and not that is what I would do.

If it is true that sensitivity is lost due to a circumsision how could I live with myself of giving him something then TAKING it away from him once he has it? Would it be better for him to be circumsized and think everything feels great, or to take a chance and leave him uncut in hopes that in the future if he gets cut that the loss of sensitivity isn't depressing for him?

I find that many uncut guys (at least on the internet) are very passionate about the subject and tend to be the ones who call circumsision abusive and unnessecary. Yet they usually never cite the MILLIONS of adult males who end up getting circ'ed later in life because of health issues and what affect that had on them now that they no longer had foreskin.

I don't think many guys who are cut become depressed because they never had a choice at child birth. I don't believe many uncut guys are depressed because they never had the choice at child birth. But I believe the ones who get cut later in life wish they were cut at child birth and that is what my wife and I have been discussing.

 

[NightL]

Total Mutilation

blah blah blah... what a load of total bullshit... "Ooh, I will justify the mutilation of my own child with my mother-in-law's somewhat freaky obsession of her justifying the mutilation she promoted on her own male children".

Maybe... just maybe if you lived in a climate of exceedingly little water supply, therefore unable to perform the normal hygiene procedures that the majority of the world has available to them, perhaps then you may have a little justification.

Otherwise - Total mutilation

My goodness... "HUNDREDS of stories of boys and men of all ages"... maybe she can write a book with all her facts...

Go ahead... mutilate your child... then maybe you can "get it off" with your mother in law... FREAK

...and that is how strongly I feel about people mutilating babies!!!

 

[RandomAssGuy]

I'm au natural and have thought about getting it done just cause it seems women preffer it that way and I dont care much either way honestly.

Pretty sure this was asked, but I'll ask again. Can a woman tell any difference when its inside her between the two during intercourse?

 

[silverwhisper]

dude, i don't think women have a preference one way or the other so much as they're more familiar with one way rather than the other. :>



what i really wanna know is why a thread that was dormant since late 2005 was bumped to the present day by yourmissl. seriously, how was this one even found?!

ed

 

[Dregun]

blah blah blah... what a load of total bullshit... "Ooh, I will justify the mutilation of my own child with my mother-in-law's somewhat freaky obsession of her justifying the mutilation she promoted on her own male children".

Maybe... just maybe if you lived in a climate of exceedingly little water supply, therefore unable to perform the normal hygiene procedures that the majority of the world has available to them, perhaps then you may have a little justification.

Otherwise - Total mutilation

My goodness... "HUNDREDS of stories of boys and men of all ages"... maybe she can write a book with all her facts...

Go ahead... mutilate your child... then maybe you can "get it off" with your mother in law... FREAK



...and that is how strongly I feel about people mutilating babies!!!

I'm glad you're intelligent enough to see things from both sides, it is your type who make these conversations difficult. I would only ask before you critisize me or try to insinuate some "unhealthy" relationship with my inlaws that you actually go to a few hospitols and talk to nurses. Talk to the guys who have had a circumsision later in life because of actual medical condtions and tell me you don't feel sorry for them. (Heres a tidbit of information jackass, more then 50% of the surgeries needed where to men over the age of 50!)

Talk to the nurses who have to care for these men and find out how many "stories" they have. My mother in law has been a nurse for over 25 years, she has seen everything and her "obsession" has only been for the wellbeing of others.

Maybe if you educated yourself instead of whoring your own ideology about this issue you would have a little more sympathy for those of us who are confronted with this decision. You are "uncut" therefore your perception of the practice is different from those of us who are "cut". Yet we who are don't believe anything is wrong with it so how exactly would your opinion on the matter mean anything to us?

If you think I (a male) have been taking idea of this procedure lightly then your more fucked up then anyone I know!

 

[Cattypuss]

My current lover was circumcised age 8 because his foreskin was too tight. He remembers the pain of the circumcision vividly. He does not feel that he is missing out on anything through not having a foreskin. He is an advocate of circumcising boys when born.

Me? I have always preferred cut cocks. The look of them and the feel of them.

 

[DarkBee]

Over here (West Europe) guys only get circumcised for religious or medical reasons, otherwise everything is left as it is. It feels great playing with my foreskin!

 

[sexysharonmilf]

Cut vs. Uncut
When sucking cock, can anyone tell me the difference between sucking a cock with a foreskin vs. one that is cut?

cut or not interested.

 

[Riley_James]

I'm au natural and have thought about getting it done just cause it seems women preffer it that way and I dont care much either way honestly.

Pretty sure this was asked, but I'll ask again. Can a woman tell any difference when its inside her between the two during intercourse?

Okay, I'm going to weigh in here because for most of my life I'd never seen an uncut cock. What is normal for us in the land of WASP's is cut, so everyone I had ever been with until I was like 40 was cut. Then I started swinging and omg, I became a huge uncut fan. Since I'm bi and I love pussy lips, I've always likened a nice long foreskin to a healthy set of labia (it is after all made from the same tissue in uetero). I have come across some uncut guys who make it a point to reassure me that they are very "clean," but to me it never was a concern, mostly because I have a huge fetish about natural smells and the taste/smell/sounds of sex.

As far as intercourse goes, I agree with whoever said her uncut lover was the best sex she'd ever had. I wonder sometimes if uncut guys can last longer because the frenulum(sp) is covered half the time during coitus...that fact I'm not sure of, but let me tell you, it's a huge turn on for me. I will say that what a cock looks like isn't of the slightest concern for me, it's how you use it that's important and how much pleasure you get from it.

Cirumcision is a parent's decision, however I'm of the mind though that it's unnecessary and would perfer if doctor's in this country would stop performing it so regularly. I would also like to say that I feel inner sexed children should not be "assigned" their sex, but be allowed to develop into whatever they are inside and not what people want to see outside. Scream your head off at me if you like, but being a GLBTI advocate, I consider the affects of "sexing" as mutalation and have witnessed the terrible consequences it can cause in a person's life.

 

[DrRamulak]

Okay, I'm going to weigh in here because for most of my life I'd never seen an uncut cock. What is normal for us in the land of WASP's is cut, so everyone I had ever been with until I was like 40 was cut. Then I started swinging and omg, I became a huge uncut fan. Since I'm bi and I love pussy lips, I've always likened a nice long foreskin to a healthy set of labia (it is after all made from the same tissue in uetero). I have come across some uncut guys who make it a point to reassure me that they are very "clean," but to me it never was a concern, mostly because I have a huge fetish about natural smells and the taste/smell/sounds of sex.

As far as intercourse goes, I agree with whoever said her uncut lover was the best sex she'd ever had. I wonder sometimes if uncut guys can last longer because the frenulum(sp) is covered half the time during coitus...that fact I'm not sure of, but let me tell you, it's a huge turn on for me. I will say that what a cock looks like isn't of the slightest concern for me, it's how you use it that's important and how much pleasure you get from it.

Cirumcision is a parent's decision, however I'm of the mind though that it's unnecessary and would perfer if doctor's in this country would stop performing it so regularly. I would also like to say that I feel inner sexed children should not be "assigned" their sex, but be allowed to develop into whatever they are inside and not what people want to see outside. Scream your head off at me if you like, but being a GLBTI advocate, I consider the affects of "sexing" as mutalation and have witnessed the terrible consequences it can cause in a person's life.

Hetero cut American guy, but the foreskin/labia thing rings true to me. I love well-developed inner labia. Just fun to play with. I often wonder what it would be like to have foreskin to play with.

I agree that most women tend to prefer what they know, but I have known a couple women who became converts to uncut, but not the reverse. Allegedly there's a lot less friction.

My son is NOT cut. If there's one stupid reason to have your son cut, it's because you are. People sometimes say "I want him to look like me". New flash: he only looks 50% like you anyway. If you marry someone from your same ethnic group this is less obvious, but if you marry someone who looks different from you, it's very obvious.

 

[pinkflames]

I'm au natural and have thought about getting it done just cause it seems women preffer it that way and I dont care much either way honestly.

Pretty sure this was asked, but I'll ask again. Can a woman tell any difference when its inside her between the two during intercourse?

I can't tell the difference once it's inside but an uncut one is a lot more fun to play with.

 

[Ran4]

The idea that uncut is cleaner only holds up if the uncutted person doesn't clean his penis _at all_. Seriously, even without specific cleaning, masturbation would probably keep it clean enough. The very idea of removing a cover to make the inside become less dirty is weird.

The foreskin is a protective cover, duh! It prevents stuff from going into the urethra, it prevents the head from being desensitized etc. Cutting it off does make masturbation harder (which is why very religious people cutting their loved ones so much).

It is mainly a cosmetical issue: you can live either way. But cutting is a permanent operation. Obviously children shouldn't be cut when they are born: it's hurtful and the cutting often leads to infection. Just because a baby doesn't remember it twenty years later doesn't mean that the operation doesn't hurt...

(And yes, you are a bad parent if you cut off parts of your children. The argument put forward earlier in this thread is a joke: if the person does get problems, then deal with it then; don't cut off perfectly fine skin "just in case").

 

[dirtycarol]

I only had one guy who was uncut, and that was back in 1985. He was a lot older than myself, I was around 23 and he was in his mid to late 40s. We met at a bar and talked, one thing led to another and I offered him a blow-job, of course he accepted and we went to his place for sex.

After a little foreplay and undressing, he sat on the edge of the bed and I was kneeling on the floor on a pillow. My first thought was, "It's not overly attractive, but..."

He pulled the foreskin back and held it at first, it was no different from any other cock that way. It didn't take long to discover several things that were different though. The first was, was it seemed more sensitive, (that didn't sink into my mind until about 20 years later) there was a lot of body movement on his part and he groaned, ooohed and aaahhhed more than usual. The second thing was when he let go of it, I found myself in a kind-of new playground. I liked to push the foreskin back with my lips while massaging the head with my tongue. It was fun, and different! It took very little time for him to cum, but he was capable of cumming a lot. Short version, we spent the night together and he came 4 times.

O.k, fast forward to 2001-2007. I met this same guy when I went to work for the local newspaper, I was, and am currently married and he kept bugging me for sex, "Like the night we spent together."

I always refused and the last time he bugged me, he told me I sucked his cock too hard anyway...I guess they really are more sensitive!

Uncut cocks are fun, but I've had the most fun with neatly "clipped" ones.

 

[hackspa]

I think it's personal preference, nothing more. Everyone is different. I believe that if there are any medical reason for circumcision it should be performed. Some babies are born with abnormalities, one could be a tight foreskin, or six fingers or a more serious condition. I found out later on in life that I was not circumcised. Sounds funny but I couldn't tell, and all the women i've been with would actually argue with me that I was. My foreskin doesn't cover the head of my penis, even when i'm not erect. I've had both complaints and praise for being a marathon man, although I don't think it has anything to do with being cut or uncut. One day if I have kids, i'll have to decide what to do, but I honestly don't give it much thought.

 

[cumuncut]

Being uncut, I find this issue is not all that important. It is all about personal preferance, just like some prefer blondes. I think though that just because you prefer one over the other you should try both before you make up your mind.

 

[gregor2001us]

It is about personal preference for adults. That is assuming that they have gotten enough information to make an informed decision. Not necessarily true with all the biased info out there. But there is a big issue of children's' rights when the person being cut is an infant.

"His body, his choice."

As far as feelings and function, I can say that my wife has noticed a big difference in how intercourse feels since I have restored to the point where I now have enough foreskin to cover most of my glans when soft. And I can also say that the feelings I get now are far, far better than before. The saying that seems to sum it up best in my mind is

"The foreskin isn't the wrapper....it's the candy."

Regards

 

[Firefly69]

gregor- you said made the statement that I came to make.

Longtime lurker-- I don't really post. But I just couldn't walk away from this one.

I've heard it all before. All the arguements, opinions and discourse on this subject. I've participated in them plenty of times myself. I'm an American woman-- with a husband who is cut, but who believes that baby boys should not be routinely circumcised. Just wanted you to know which viewpoint I come from.

Thing is-- all the arguements and opinions tend to overshadow the single biggest point of the whole subject.

It should be his choice.

Circumcision should NEVER be done unless a man chooses to do so, or for a medical reasons. (not sure how to fit religious reasons in here, I respect that its done for religious reasons, but I still think it should be a mans choice)

Women have been screaming out the message "my body, my choice" for decades now. Shouldn't men be given the same consideration? All the rationalizations, arguements and reasons people give for doing it never seem to take into account that a permanant, body-altering decision should not be made by anyone other than the person it is being done to. The only exception being for medical reasons.


I have heard the arguement for circumcison citing that when men are old and being cared for, that they are more likely to experience infections when they are uncut. Many are then cut because of that. But personally, I feel that proper hygiene should be part of the care provided to them in the first place. Just because some nurses are grossed out or feel disgusted at the thought of bathing a nursing home resident under his foreskin-- is no reason to lop it off for their own personal sensibilities. Chances are, these men already have to need to be cared for and washed by a caregiver anyways. They may not even be going to the bathroom as needed. All of that type of hygienic care is provided-- why not bathing under the foreskin? I think its more for the convienience of the caregivers- then for the good of the man.

But once again--- it really all boils down to one point.

It should be HIS choice.

 

[Cheekyman69]

I was cut when I was born and I've hated it. It isn't a common thing in the UK and because of that people automatically called anyone over here Jews, etc, when they found out. So I kept it a secret, very few of my friends know about it and its lead to me finding it alot harder to be open with women. Maybe that's just me being dumb though

 

[vrosej10]

I like both. Dick is dick. My husband was uncircumcised when I met him and later had to be cut for medical reasons. It has never made any difference to me. Dick is largely about the owner for me.

 

[HawaiiHorny19]

hmmm

I was cut when I was born and I've hated it. It isn't a common thing in the UK and because of that people automatically called anyone over here Jews, etc, when they found out. So I kept it a secret, very few of my friends know about it and its lead to me finding it alot harder to be open with women. Maybe that's just me being dumb though

Pretty much the opposite situation for me here in the states...

 

[watch_me]

the only un-cut guy i've ever seen was a kid at the playground who flashed me when i was 11 and i've been scared of them every since