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Cumming
Yeah, you know - cumming. She came. He came. The reason we (as the creator) brought it together in the first place.
How do you as the Writer tend to go about that?
I’ll try to TLDR it here and then more ask below (if ur bored and unoccupied).
I value that description quite highly, for obvious reasons. I’ve managed to do it a number of different ways but perhaps, in my advancing age, I’m less bone hard and able to stand up from the chair and SLAM my fucking truth down against the wood of my own making in an attempt to demand the table tell me it ain’t good enough (which I used to do while writing erotica, when at my best) ; I’m a liwl softy now or at least less govenatawr.
How important do you actually think it is - that moment - to the immediacy of the story itself?
How much about the flying this and that is absolutely necessary for the escapism of the reader? How many subterfuge and volcanic references can be made? It’s not just a bookmark but we really need to pay it off right there? How much of that is true?
How successful - and what advice might you have, in navigating - not making it all about That?
Cuz it’s honestly NOT. All about that. Obviously.
But it IS why they went there. To you.
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Babbling below this
I tend to side with one of the more colorful examples of male bravado and a reasonably honest example of men in general in Burt Reynolds - when his character said in Boogie Nights:
“Ya gotta have the Big Titssss. The Big Dicksss.”
Yup. I agree. When it comes to serving up a simple payout and one you can’t otherwise easily obtain - enhance upon the visual. Go “greater than”. However, while I want to be accessible for a reader in that manner to easily engage them initially… I then want to challenge them well beyond reasons they even thought they began with (which is the tricky part, of course. And easily the most enjoyable; available gains that I enjoy personally).
Cumshots? I feel like I’m somewhat cheating the reader if I just say “came”. That would be like having sex with a woman and feeling completely indifferent to her own release. I wouldn’t know how to feel indifferent like that. I need to pay it off. I can’t just take it for granted that the reader felt a limited description of the reason they have read the last several paragraphs or pages was to simply get to the end and call that part finished. That specific moment and result has got to exceed all that read before somehow.
Furthermore, how do I top the last “release” I just detailed? Cuz if I don’t do that then they don’t keep reading (on a general level). And if they don’t keep reading? Then I’ve cheated my own characters. And that of course is the very WORST result possible.
-Having said that, one of the favorite things I’ve ever written just happened one morning where I woke up with some woman in my head and I scrawled out her story as I was hearing it, within a couple hours. I don’t think I elaborated on body parts at all within that one. It just went for honesty all the way (and the tenor of that particular tale was she generally enjoyed regularity; slightly less than simple was what she enjoyed. Less pressure to perform in any manner was her greatest relief).
So… I don’t need to be schooled on the variety of human preference or options on varied interests (the dynamics of sex are sustainability ensured; forever and always; uniquely continual).
-Surely, the most obvious response here will be to Greater Develop your Characters, etc. That’s where the reader identifies and a giant cock or cumshot ain’t gonna cheat THAT. And that’s all accurate and fine advice. But it’s not what I’m asking about.
I’m asking about the DESCRIPTION itself.
How motivated are You (as a writer) to elaborate there. Do you find your own work to suffer or gain (via private or public response; validation) dependant upon how you handle “the payoff”. Does anyone actually care?
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a complaint nor a compliment on any of my orgasm scenarios specifically. Have any of you? Maybe I’m over thinking it. Maybe I’m ruining the arc of the story itself via a continual assumption that I must one-up the last explosion/resolve. That’s just scaffolding, it’s not the actual architecture they’re reading for. Maybe I’m just being a fuckin dumbass who personally assumes you’ve gotta go big - when you don’t have to at all.
Yeah?
Have I ultimately answered my own question?
>I haven’t. Cuz I’m actually asking what YOUR experience has been in that regard. Were there breakthroughs? Lightbulbs?
It’s Erotica. That why you’re writing it. You like the idea of getting someone off. That’s a given.
So when it… (duh) cums.
Where do you figure you have been successful and where have you not?
How do you think best stretches out the complexities of an ongoing situation where you’re going to meet that same end several times? How can the cum, match the circumstance, as it advances? Continually? Where each succeeds the one before it?
Cuz, you know, it’s ultimately about the fucking cumming.
Okay?
-peace
Yeah, you know - cumming. She came. He came. The reason we (as the creator) brought it together in the first place.
How do you as the Writer tend to go about that?
I’ll try to TLDR it here and then more ask below (if ur bored and unoccupied).
I value that description quite highly, for obvious reasons. I’ve managed to do it a number of different ways but perhaps, in my advancing age, I’m less bone hard and able to stand up from the chair and SLAM my fucking truth down against the wood of my own making in an attempt to demand the table tell me it ain’t good enough (which I used to do while writing erotica, when at my best) ; I’m a liwl softy now or at least less govenatawr.
How important do you actually think it is - that moment - to the immediacy of the story itself?
How much about the flying this and that is absolutely necessary for the escapism of the reader? How many subterfuge and volcanic references can be made? It’s not just a bookmark but we really need to pay it off right there? How much of that is true?
How successful - and what advice might you have, in navigating - not making it all about That?
Cuz it’s honestly NOT. All about that. Obviously.
But it IS why they went there. To you.
>
Babbling below this
I tend to side with one of the more colorful examples of male bravado and a reasonably honest example of men in general in Burt Reynolds - when his character said in Boogie Nights:
“Ya gotta have the Big Titssss. The Big Dicksss.”
Yup. I agree. When it comes to serving up a simple payout and one you can’t otherwise easily obtain - enhance upon the visual. Go “greater than”. However, while I want to be accessible for a reader in that manner to easily engage them initially… I then want to challenge them well beyond reasons they even thought they began with (which is the tricky part, of course. And easily the most enjoyable; available gains that I enjoy personally).
Cumshots? I feel like I’m somewhat cheating the reader if I just say “came”. That would be like having sex with a woman and feeling completely indifferent to her own release. I wouldn’t know how to feel indifferent like that. I need to pay it off. I can’t just take it for granted that the reader felt a limited description of the reason they have read the last several paragraphs or pages was to simply get to the end and call that part finished. That specific moment and result has got to exceed all that read before somehow.
Furthermore, how do I top the last “release” I just detailed? Cuz if I don’t do that then they don’t keep reading (on a general level). And if they don’t keep reading? Then I’ve cheated my own characters. And that of course is the very WORST result possible.
-Having said that, one of the favorite things I’ve ever written just happened one morning where I woke up with some woman in my head and I scrawled out her story as I was hearing it, within a couple hours. I don’t think I elaborated on body parts at all within that one. It just went for honesty all the way (and the tenor of that particular tale was she generally enjoyed regularity; slightly less than simple was what she enjoyed. Less pressure to perform in any manner was her greatest relief).
So… I don’t need to be schooled on the variety of human preference or options on varied interests (the dynamics of sex are sustainability ensured; forever and always; uniquely continual).
-Surely, the most obvious response here will be to Greater Develop your Characters, etc. That’s where the reader identifies and a giant cock or cumshot ain’t gonna cheat THAT. And that’s all accurate and fine advice. But it’s not what I’m asking about.
I’m asking about the DESCRIPTION itself.
How motivated are You (as a writer) to elaborate there. Do you find your own work to suffer or gain (via private or public response; validation) dependant upon how you handle “the payoff”. Does anyone actually care?
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard a complaint nor a compliment on any of my orgasm scenarios specifically. Have any of you? Maybe I’m over thinking it. Maybe I’m ruining the arc of the story itself via a continual assumption that I must one-up the last explosion/resolve. That’s just scaffolding, it’s not the actual architecture they’re reading for. Maybe I’m just being a fuckin dumbass who personally assumes you’ve gotta go big - when you don’t have to at all.
Yeah?
Have I ultimately answered my own question?
>I haven’t. Cuz I’m actually asking what YOUR experience has been in that regard. Were there breakthroughs? Lightbulbs?
It’s Erotica. That why you’re writing it. You like the idea of getting someone off. That’s a given.
So when it… (duh) cums.
Where do you figure you have been successful and where have you not?
How do you think best stretches out the complexities of an ongoing situation where you’re going to meet that same end several times? How can the cum, match the circumstance, as it advances? Continually? Where each succeeds the one before it?
Cuz, you know, it’s ultimately about the fucking cumming.
Okay?
-peace
