Cuckoldry and humiliation: a thread for women as well as men

My wife returns from a dinner date with a lover she has recently started to entertain. I ask how dinner was as they enter the living room. He answers that dinner was great. She turns to him, kisses him and says she will be right back then disappears down the hallway. He takes a seat in the reclining chair across from me and we make some small talk.

I hear her coming down the hallway, she appears to us wearing one of my dress shirts, buttoned at her navel. It is open just enough that I can see the side of her breast as she walks past me. She climbs onto his lap and passionately kisses him.

I see the sides of the shirt bulge as he begins to massage her breast as they kiss. Her hands are in close, fumbling, I can only guess she is unfastening his trousers. They break from the kiss and she arches her back, head raised, moaning as she appears to be stroking him. I hear the sounds of him sucking her breast as she raises up, then lowers herself with a loud moan. I am suddenly aware that she is without panties and has just taken him deep. His moans are muffled by her nipples as he continues his sucking as she begins as slow rhythm.
 
My wife returns from a dinner date with a lover she has recently started to entertain. I ask how dinner was as they enter the living room. He answers that dinner was great. She turns to him, kisses him and says she will be right back then disappears down the hallway. He takes a seat in the reclining chair across from me and we make some small talk.

I hear her coming down the hallway, she appears to us wearing one of my dress shirts, buttoned at her navel. It is open just enough that I can see the side of her breast as she walks past me. She climbs onto his lap and passionately kisses him.

I see the sides of the shirt bulge as he begins to massage her breast as they kiss. Her hands are in close, fumbling, I can only guess she is unfastening his trousers. They break from the kiss and she arches her back, head raised, moaning as she appears to be stroking him. I hear the sounds of him sucking her breast as she raises up, then lowers herself with a loud moan. I am suddenly aware that she is without panties and has just taken him deep. His moans are muffled by her nipples as he continues his sucking as she begins as slow rhythm.
It isn’t long before her pace quickens, her soft moans getting louder as he pinches her nipples, whispering to her, “That’s it baby ride that big dick.” She gazes at him announcing she is gonna cum on his big dick when he glances over at me then back at her and instructs her to tell me. She turns, looks right into my eyes and sensually says, “I’m going to cum on his big cock.” The sight before me has me almost trembling as her orgasm starts. She is moaning loudly, purposefully grinding on his lap when they embrace in a passionate kiss. I can hear her moaning into his mouth as her release shakes her.

She collapses on his chest. A minute or so passes and he begins move beneath her. She rises as if he has pumped some life back into her. I see them whispering but can’t make out what is being said. She slowly moves off of his lap and positions herself on all fours at the end of the sofa facing me. He moves in behind her. I am awaken from my daze when he says, “Kiss your wife.” I hesitate, feeling kind of awkward suddenly being asked to participate in this seemingly surreal event. I lean over and as I gently kiss my wife, she vigorously kisses me back sucking on my tongue as he enters her from behind. His strokes are smooth but deliberate and she is now moaning into my mouth as she is being fucked.
 
It isn’t long before her pace quickens, her soft moans getting louder as he pinches her nipples, whispering to her, “That’s it baby ride that big dick.” She gazes at him announcing she is gonna cum on his big dick when he glances over at me then back at her and instructs her to tell me. She turns, looks right into my eyes and sensually says, “I’m going to cum on his big cock.” The sight before me has me almost trembling as her orgasm starts. She is moaning loudly, purposefully grinding on his lap when they embrace in a passionate kiss. I can hear her moaning into his mouth as her release shakes her.

She collapses on his chest. A minute or so passes and he begins move beneath her. She rises as if he has pumped some life back into her. I see them whispering but can’t make out what is being said. She slowly moves off of his lap and positions herself on all fours at the end of the sofa facing me. He moves in behind her. I am awaken from my daze when he says, “Kiss your wife.” I hesitate, feeling kind of awkward suddenly being asked to participate in this seemingly surreal event. I lean over and as I gently kiss my wife, she vigorously kisses me back sucking on my tongue as he enters her from behind. His strokes are smooth but deliberate and she is now moaning into my mouth as she is being fucked.
She pulls away and the kiss is broken. I see her pulling away was the result of him pulling her hair as he pounds her. Looking at me he asks, “Isn’t she sexy”? I give a nod to which he replies, “Tell her how sexy she is”. Hesitantly I respond, “Baby you are so sexy”. She smiles at me. He addresses her saying, “You hear that, hubby thinks you’re sexy”. She looks back at him and giggles.

He slows his pace and begins withdrawing completely and then thrusting back into her completely. What I am witnessing is heightened by the sounds I am hearing. I can hear her wetness as he opens her with his thrusting ending with a pop as their bodies slam together signaling to me he is balls deep in my wife. I even hear the soft kiss her pussy lips leave on the end of his dick as he slowly withdraws from her. I hear her breathing quicken and she is softly cooing when she begins to backup to him. She is nearing her second orgasm as I begin to pinch her hardened nipples.
 
I can see versions of this experience that could be fulfilling for both man and woman, sexually and erotically. My problem is that most of the time it seems clear that the wife is being cruel to her husband, getting off not least by laughing at him and mocking him. Now, of course, some men are masochists and they might get off on this, but that's a very sad situation, if you ask me.
No, there has to be love and mutual respect between husband and wife, and the various sexual acts the two of them perform or experience are merely mechanisms to let them liberate long suppressed or unfulfilled needs and desires. They do this with each other and for each other.
 
My problem is that most of the time it seems clear that the wife is being cruel to her husband, getting off not least by laughing at him and mocking him.

No, you've been watching way too much porn. It can be that way, if that's the way the partners want it. But many other configurations are more common

Now, of course, some men are masochists and they might get off on this, but that's a very sad situation, if you ask me.

Masochism is not “sad”, it's a kink, like any other. Not your place to judge. And if your goal is kink-shaming, you've come to the wrong place.
 
We are new to this kind of lifestyle, and I am still learning, so I just read this whole thread.

When we have sex, my husband will cum before we hardly get started. It is very frustrating for me, and I know that makes him feel shame, but I have learned that if I "use it against him," it actually arouses him. But if I were to call him an idiot, that would hurt his feelings. As our sex life has evolved into a hotwife/flr/femdom - whatever you call it - I've had to give this a lot of thought. I needed to know where to draw the line. So here is what I think I see.

First of all, you have to understand that my husband wants to serve me. That's what he wants. It has taken me a few years to wrap my head around it. He wants me to be the boss, make all the decisions, tell him what to do....in EVERYTHING. He calls me "the superior one." He says he wants me to have all the pleasure. Don't ask me to understand it. I don't. But I've quit fighting it. Now I roll with it. I mean, why not?

As for the humiliation part, it seems to me that if the humiliation is more of a humbling sort of thing, he likes it. In other words, if the humiliation is associated with me demonstrating my authority, or that I deserve all the pleasure, or that he's disappointing in bed, he likes it so much it will give him an erection. If I do it when we're having intercourse, he will cum almost immediately. But if I were to denigrate him as a person, it would hurt his feelings. And I have to add that it seems like there has to be some element of truth. He's not an idiot, so that doesn't work. He does, truly, have a problem with cumming too soon. If I tell him that, it works.

I don't know if any of this makes sense, but at least for me, I've kind of learned where the boundaries are. At first, I was hesitant to be so honest with him. But now, I've got no problem with it. To be honest, I kind of enjoy it. I know that sounds terrible, but it works for us.

Sorry I wrote so much.
 
Please don't be sorry. This thread needs an injection of real-life experiences. And I've been a regular follower on your personal thread, and have nothing but respect for your approach, and your thoughtfulness.

Everything you say clicks for me. I'm very much like your husband.
But if I were to denigrate him as a person, it would hurt his feelings.
Yes. I've long stated to people I've had this conversation with that the humiliation has to be of a sexual nature to work.
And I have to add that it seems like there has to be some element of truth. He's not an idiot, so that doesn't work.
I'm pretty much in accord with this, with one important caveat: penis size and performance. In my experience, and in my impression from many many conversations with others, men are sensitive about this, and can easily be lead to believe in the heat of the moment that their penis is inadequate. And for some of us, this form of humiliation can be very arousing. For some, this may involve an element of roleplay; for others, their own insecurity may lead them to think it's completely true, and some aftercare may be needed.

So of course in your husband's case, the inadequacy part, at least, is indeed true; and I believe you do have your own style of aftercare (of which, your obvious love for each other is no small part)

I guess what I'm saying is that with all these sexual games, there is almost always at least some element of roleplay, and for those who want it, that roleplay can be extended to “believing” things we would not under other circumstances believe.

Thank you for posting!
 
We are new to this kind of lifestyle, and I am still learning, so I just read this whole thread.

When we have sex, my husband will cum before we hardly get started. It is very frustrating for me, and I know that makes him feel shame, but I have learned that if I "use it against him," it actually arouses him. But if I were to call him an idiot, that would hurt his feelings. As our sex life has evolved into a hotwife/flr/femdom - whatever you call it - I've had to give this a lot of thought. I needed to know where to draw the line. So here is what I think I see.

First of all, you have to understand that my husband wants to serve me. That's what he wants. It has taken me a few years to wrap my head around it. He wants me to be the boss, make all the decisions, tell him what to do....in EVERYTHING. He calls me "the superior one." He says he wants me to have all the pleasure. Don't ask me to understand it. I don't. But I've quit fighting it. Now I roll with it. I mean, why not?

As for the humiliation part, it seems to me that if the humiliation is more of a humbling sort of thing, he likes it. In other words, if the humiliation is associated with me demonstrating my authority, or that I deserve all the pleasure, or that he's disappointing in bed, he likes it so much it will give him an erection. If I do it when we're having intercourse, he will cum almost immediately. But if I were to denigrate him as a person, it would hurt his feelings. And I have to add that it seems like there has to be some element of truth. He's not an idiot, so that doesn't work. He does, truly, have a problem with cumming too soon. If I tell him that, it works.

I don't know if any of this makes sense, but at least for me, I've kind of learned where the boundaries are. At first, I was hesitant to be so honest with him. But now, I've got no problem with it. To be honest, I kind of enjoy it. I know that sounds terrible, but it works for us.

Sorry I wrote so much.
And that’s ok!

Premature ejaculation can be worked on. There are therapies, they basically help recognize when you are about to come and teach you to stop all activities, wait for a few seconds then start again, then wait, then continue. A therapist will ask you, does it also happen when he is masturbating?

At any rate, I find the new dynamics between you two very exciting.

I hope that his oral talents make up for his lack of control! 😉

I am not judging here, I am s’ajuste really curious about couple relationships.

😍
 
And that’s ok!

Premature ejaculation can be worked on. There are therapies, they basically help recognize when you are about to come and teach you to stop all activities, wait for a few seconds then start again, then wait, then continue. A therapist will ask you, does it also happen when he is masturbating?

At any rate, I find the new dynamics between you two very exciting.

I hope that his oral talents make up for his lack of control! 😉

I am not judging here, I am s’ajuste really curious about couple relationships.

😍
He would never go to a therapist, but thank you for the advice.
 
Never experienced it, but it's definitely a fantasy. I think that mild humiliation and submission is what makes it hot, but I think that I'd definitely want sex or a blow job to finish off (possibly with "being forced" to eat my own cum afterwards)
Being humiliated directly by the bull would be a turn-off, but by the woman would be arousing.
 
Liqueur, that was very nice of you. Thank you.
No flattery there. Your thread is thoughtful, well-written— a more mindful and coherent account of one person's journey whitebread conservative housewifery and into cuckoldry and dominance, I have never seen— and it's more erotic than all the porn-inspired fantasies I've ever read, because of its realism.
 
He would never go to a therapist, but thank you for the advice.
Never say never, lol. At the risk of pointing out the obvious, a couple of years ago you could have just as easily wrote any of the following with similar conviction:

"He would never quit his job so he could stay home and serve me."
"He would never encourage me to suck and fuck <insert any of several men's names here>."
"He would never let me lock his cock in a metal cage and control his erections and orgasms."
"He would never let me paddle his ass for misbehavior."

I can't wait to learn what he'll never do for you next! 😂
 
I think you're missing the point. I think they enjoy their relationship the way it is.
I think you think too much, and in the process you've obviously missed my point.

I get that you're clearly infatuated with Lea and her story. It's blatantly obvious. In your 50+ posts in her journal thread alone you've made no secret that you wish you were in her husbands place. You've been kind of like a cute little puppy following her around that way.

Lea's a big girl and she can—and will—do whatever she likes. I never suggested otherwise.

All I did above was observe that she's enjoyed myriad new wonderful and enlightened experiences that she never imagined before her husband asked her to lead their marriage ala FLR. I simply suggested that if she wants him to seek therapy for whatever—or for him to do anything else—she can likely convince him to do that too.

Whether she does so or not is none of my business... or yours.
 
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