cuckolding without the humiliation part

[naughtoldperv]

It seems like most of what is called 'cuckolding' that I see in porn or is written about in the stories on this forum and others involves extreme humiliation of the husband by both the other guy and especially the wife. He is often not allowed to get himself off, or has to jerk off and never gets any loving or attention from the wife, as if he is forced to go along with the wife because it is her idea and she has little respect for the husband.
If I were to play a cuckold, I would want fair play and enjoy all people involved..........please don't insult me or force me, as I'll do almost anything you want, if you ask me nicely. The main thing is let me be more involved.
So, is there a different genera than cuckolding where the husband can willingly play and get his way...........especially if it is his wife!!
And how would I find some 'willing husband cuckold' porn?? does that genera have any title other than cuckold or mfm?
Others feel the same??
just wondering..............

 

[BareBackRider2]

Genres you seek include

Hot wives
Sharing
Swinging

 

[demos]

Shame and humiliation are essential elements of cuckolding and are food and drink for the submissive male who is into that fetish. Almost always, the submissive male is the instigator of a cuckold relationship and longs to see his wife fucked by another man. There are lots of frustrated wannabe cucks out there because not many women are up for this type of activity.

Without the humiliation, it's just a threesome or wife-share.

 

[naughtoldperv]

Shame and humiliation are essential elements of cuckolding and are food and drink for the submissive male who is into that fetish. Almost always, the submissive male is the instigator of a cuckold relationship and longs to see his wife fucked by another man. There are lots of frustrated wannabe cucks out there because not many women are up for this type of activity.

Without the humiliation, it's just a threesome or wife-share.

Yeah, thanks for the clarification. Neither myself or my wife are into the humiliation/shame part of me simply my wife with another cock, or her indulging in a fantasy of taking on 2 cocks and 'entertaining' me by showing me her playing with a 3rd cock.
But, I have seen one genera pf 3somes that involved bi sex between the invited cock and to be honest, that is a bit of a turn on for me and hopefully her too.
Does that fetish have a name?? And is it a popular fetish?
I have seen it in a few porn movies, but the invited guy as well as the husband seem more gay than BI.

 

[demos]

Yeah, thanks for the clarification. Neither myself or my wife are into the humiliation/shame part of me simply my wife with another cock, or her indulging in a fantasy of taking on 2 cocks and 'entertaining' me by showing me her playing with a 3rd cock.
But, I have seen one genera pf 3somes that involved bi sex between the invited cock and to be honest, that is a bit of a turn on for me and hopefully her too.
Does that fetish have a name?? And is it a popular fetish?
I have seen it in a few porn movies, but the invited guy as well as the husband seem more gay than BI.

When an mfm threesome (two guys pleasuring one woman) becomes a full three-way, with the guys satisfying each other as well as the woman, that is a bi mmf.

The guy-on-guy action can be as mild as mutual wanking, or bi-oral or full-on fucking. There are some women who like watching the two guys playing with each other before they turn their attention to her. In porn, there is a fetish along these lines: "Want to fuck me? First you have to fuck my husband."

 

[RipRespon]

It seems like most of what is called 'cuckolding' that I see in porn or is written about in the stories on this forum and others involves extreme humiliation of the husband by both the other guy and especially the wife. He is often not allowed to get himself off, or has to jerk off and never gets any loving or attention from the wife, as if he is forced to go along with the wife because it is her idea and she has little respect for the husband.
If I were to play a cuckold, I would want fair play and enjoy all people involved..........please don't insult me or force me, as I'll do almost anything you want, if you ask me nicely. The main thing is let me be more involved.
So, is there a different genera than cuckolding where the husband can willingly play and get his way...........especially if it is his wife!!
And how would I find some 'willing husband cuckold' porn?? does that genera have any title other than cuckold or mfm?
Others feel the same??
just wondering..............

So as defined by Wikipedia: "The term cuckold refers to the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own." But the more fetish definition, unlike the traditional definition, is "a cuckold is complicit in his (or her) partner's sexual "infidelity"; the wife who enjoys cuckolding her husband is frequently called a hotwife or a cuckoldress if the man is more submissive."

The fetish version of this is the definition that I subscribe too. I would frequently take part in 3 somes or orgies with my wife and other men, but many other times she would have "affairs" that I was complicit with or where I was excluded even if I was present. Part of the excitement for me was not only the humiliating aspect of her blatant adulterous behavior (many men look down on guys who allow their wives to do that) but also the voyeuristic aspect of getting to watch or listen to others having sex with my wife.

Even though I fantasize regularly about extreme humiliation through domination the actual practice has rarely lived up to the fantasy.

 

[unnissa]

It seems like most of what is called 'cuckolding' that I see in porn or is written about in the stories on this forum and others involves extreme humiliation of the husband by both the other guy and especially the wife. He is often not allowed to get himself off, or has to jerk off and never gets any loving or attention from the wife, as if he is forced to go along with the wife because it is her idea and she has little respect for the husband.
If I were to play a cuckold, I would want fair play and enjoy all people involved..........please don't insult me or force me, as I'll do almost anything you want, if you ask me nicely. The main thing is let me be more involved.
So, is there a different genera than cuckolding where the husband can willingly play and get his way...........especially if it is his wife!!
And how would I find some 'willing husband cuckold' porn?? does that genera have any title other than cuckold or mfm?
Others feel the same??
just wondering..............

yessss
i agree wholly and wholeheartedly !
we are just aiming for it and striving hard dear. it is perfect clarification of my , his mindset.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

yessss
i agree wholly and wholeheartedly !
we are just aiming for it and striving hard dear. it is perfect clarification of my , his mindset.

Interesting. Though not married.

 

[policywank]

As near as I can tell the historical definition of cuckold is a man whose wife was having sex with other men - that's it, that's all. When the word first came into use it was a widely held view that she must be doing it because her husband was inadequate and the husband must be disapproving and humiliated, but those were societal assumptions not part of the definition.

Society has evolved. Men no longer assume that women are their possession to be buffered from other males. And we know now that women are perfectly capable of enjoying variety in sexual partners even if their primary partner is very satisfying.

All that can be said of the modern fetish scene is that it is dynamic and unfolding. There is no rule book or accepted definition that I am aware of that stipulates the husband's perspective, attitude or role. And to the extent that there is any kind of consensus, porn isn't the place to look for it (any more than it is for any other aspect of human sexuality). Porn appeals to male ideas of control and power. Being able to control a woman while she and her bull humiliate her husband is one step up the scale. But just like all porn portrayals this has fuck all to do with reality.

Women have lots of dirty thoughts that are not at all accurately captured by porn and the same applies to our role in a hot wife situation and to our husband's role. To enjoy this as a fetish requires a man to be quite strong and secure. He may "role play" a certain character but that is all it is. I have tried lots of things but never met a man or woman who sincerely wants to be abused or treated like a doormat.

I am not qualified to say where wife sharing becomes hot wifing or where an husband becomes a cuckold. But for us it was at the point that I started calling the shots and restricted his sexual activities while expanding my own. It is by virtue of the control I exercise that I am not simply a shared wife and he is not simply a threesome participant. I do not need to date obnoxious assholes or treat my husband like garbage to meet anyone's definition.

 

[hotwifeandhubby]

You might be interested in the term Candaulism, I've copied a definition below, it is more closely in line with what my hubby and I often are doing....we are both willing participants and no form of humiliation or degrading subjection is a part of what goes on. This is also a part of erotica where one shares photos of one's spouse with others and find that highly erotic at the same time. Hope this sheds a little light for you. As for us, we still prefer the term "hot wife" to any others we've found thus far. We don't like the "cuckoldry" term as it seems degrading to us, something we do not like.

Candaulism refers to a sexual practice between three people where two of the people have sex and the third watches, often from a hidden location. Candaulism has also been used to describe specifically a man’s erotic preference for “viewing (or listening to) his spouse interacting sexually with another man or watching her disrobing where other men also might observe her.”

Candaulism differs from threesomes, voyeurism, or infidelity in a few ways; only two people are actually engaging in sex play together, while pleasure is obviously coming from both the voyeuristic and possibly exhibitionistic elements, it seems important that the people are known to each other, and finally, all parties involved are consenting and aware of what is happening.

Hot Wife

 

[J1biboi]

It seems like most of what is called 'cuckolding' that I see in porn or is written about in the stories on this forum and others involves extreme humiliation of the husband by both the other guy and especially the wife. He is often not allowed to get himself off, or has to jerk off and never gets any loving or attention from the wife, as if he is forced to go along with the wife because it is her idea and she has little respect for the husband.
If I were to play a cuckold, I would want fair play and enjoy all people involved..........please don't insult me or force me, as I'll do almost anything you want, if you ask me nicely. The main thing is let me be more involved.
So, is there a different genera than cuckolding where the husband can willingly play and get his way...........especially if it is his wife!!
And how would I find some 'willing husband cuckold' porn?? does that genera have any title other than cuckold or mfm?
Others feel the same??
just wondering..............

I'm with you. I've never understood the whole degradation humiliation thing.

 

[policywank]

You might be interested in the term Candaulism, I've copied a definition below, it is more closely in line with what my hubby and I often are doing....we are both willing participants and no form of humiliation or degrading subjection is a part of what goes on. This is also a part of erotica where one shares photos of one's spouse with others and find that highly erotic at the same time. Hope this sheds a little light for you. As for us, we still prefer the term "hot wife" to any others we've found thus far. We don't like the "cuckoldry" term as it seems degrading to us, something we do not like.

Candaulism refers to a sexual practice between three people where two of the people have sex and the third watches, often from a hidden location. Candaulism has also been used to describe specifically a man’s erotic preference for “viewing (or listening to) his spouse interacting sexually with another man or watching her disrobing where other men also might observe her.”

Candaulism differs from threesomes, voyeurism, or infidelity in a few ways; only two people are actually engaging in sex play together, while pleasure is obviously coming from both the voyeuristic and possibly exhibitionistic elements, it seems important that the people are known to each other, and finally, all parties involved are consenting and aware of what is happening.

Hot Wife

Thanks, that is a new one for me. Certainly for hubby and I, this is something that we enjoy but it doesn't cover the full range.

Like you, I prefer the term "hot wife" or sometimes "slut wife". I know not everyone likes "slut wife" but I enjoy the dirtier connotation, implied rebelliousness, reclaiming of the word, blah, blah.

To the extent that we describe our situation we prefer to focus on a positive portrayal of my sexuality rather than any negative portrayal of my husband. For us the reality is about what has been afforded to me rather than anything having been taken from him so the relevant term is hot wifing as opposed to cuckoldry.

Having said that I do take a similar view of the "cuckold" as I do "slut". It is in part because of its negative connotations that I resist the narrow definitions and associated taboo. However, unlike the word "slut" it isn't me who will wear the label of "cuckold" so I am more careful in real life. But to me he is my cuckold - loved and adored and a wonderful sex partner who also has a few other dimensions that most men don't have.

 

[RipRespon]

You might be interested in the term Candaulism, I've copied a definition below, it is more closely in line with what my hubby and I often are doing....we are both willing participants and no form of humiliation or degrading subjection is a part of what goes on. This is also a part of erotica where one shares photos of one's spouse with others and find that highly erotic at the same time. Hope this sheds a little light for you. As for us, we still prefer the term "hot wife" to any others we've found thus far. We don't like the "cuckoldry" term as it seems degrading to us, something we do not like.

Candaulism refers to a sexual practice between three people where two of the people have sex and the third watches, often from a hidden location. Candaulism has also been used to describe specifically a man’s erotic preference for “viewing (or listening to) his spouse interacting sexually with another man or watching her disrobing where other men also might observe her.”

Candaulism differs from threesomes, voyeurism, or infidelity in a few ways; only two people are actually engaging in sex play together, while pleasure is obviously coming from both the voyeuristic and possibly exhibitionistic elements, it seems important that the people are known to each other, and finally, all parties involved are consenting and aware of what is happening.

Hot Wife

I too like this term Candualism. It's a good definition for much of our sex play and I agree that term cuckoldry is very much about degradation like the term "slut wife". I also agree with policywank that the term is dynamic and evolving.

For us, the cuckolding experiences were always defined by it's content of humiliation. Most of ours were not severely degrading with verbal or physical abuse, as the 2 times we tried doing that I actually hated the experience. Rather the cuckolding was "implied or inferred humiliation". The idea that someone outside of the experience would think that this should be humiliating for me as a man. Those feelings would actually make me feel humiliation, embarrassment, and even jealousy. Something about those demeaning emotions combined with a heightened level of excitement is extremely attractive to me. As the owner of my own company I'm constantly in charge so relieving myself from that role and playing the subservient is a great way to release. So for me right now, this is what a cuckold is and why I'm okay occasionally defining myself as one.

 

[ADIDAS00]

It seems like most of what is called 'cuckolding' that I see in porn or is written about in the stories on this forum and others involves extreme humiliation of the husband by both the other guy and especially the wife. He is often not allowed to get himself off, or has to jerk off and never gets any loving or attention from the wife, as if he is forced to go along with the wife because it is her idea and she has little respect for the husband.
If I were to play a cuckold, I would want fair play and enjoy all people involved..........please don't insult me or force me, as I'll do almost anything you want, if you ask me nicely. The main thing is let me be more involved.
So, is there a different genera than cuckolding where the husband can willingly play and get his way...........especially if it is his wife!!
And how would I find some 'willing husband cuckold' porn?? does that genera have any title other than cuckold or mfm?
Others feel the same??
just wondering..............

I don't know the name of it but I like the exact same thing you do. Humiliation doesn't really do it for me. Sharing her with others and watching her enjoy another would be super sexy. Mix in some bi curiosities and I'm totally worked up!!!

 

[hotwifeandhubby]

I don't know the name of it but I like the exact same thing you do. Humiliation doesn't really do it for me. Sharing her with others and watching her enjoy another would be super sexy. Mix in some bi curiosities and I'm totally worked up!!!

Hi Adidas, we feel the same about it.....I love the attention, hubby loves to watch, and join in later as needed.....and he has over the years discovered that same bi tendency.....I think it all blends in to make a wonderfully happy mix for us....no need for humiliation or being degrading at all.....we see it as a total win-win for us and for our partner(s). Maybe if it has to have a name it could be "bliss."

Hot Wife

 

[Samisstout]

I too would love to share my wife with out being humiliated. That part of watching her pleasure and mixed emotions is what turns me on .

 

[hotwifeandhubby]

I too would love to share my wife with out being humiliated. That part of watching her pleasure and mixed emotions is what turns me on .

It can and does happen without the humiliation.....others who want to participate just need to understand your wishes.


Hot Wife

 

[Samisstout]

It can and does happen without the humiliation.....others who want to participate just need to understand your wishes.


Hot Wife

Yea I imagine it does . I like the idea of my self and another man controlling my wife . I bet a lot of men are like that

 

[XerXesXu]

There seems to be a subjective element about the humiliation aspect. As can be seen from the LW threads, a lot of guys are highly emotionally invested in exclusivity, and for them the idea of a partner who would want to have sex with a man other than themselves is deeply humiliating. If, on the other hand, you don’t have this investment then you don’t feel the humiliation. Indeed, the idea that your partner is highly sexed and desired by other men is extremely flattering and arousing.

I like the term Candualism which Hot Wife has brought to light; it more accurately describes my predilection.

 

[policywank]

I too like this term Candualism. It's a good definition for much of our sex play and I agree that term cuckoldry is very much about degradation like the term "slut wife". I also agree with policywank that the term is dynamic and evolving.

For us, the cuckolding experiences were always defined by it's content of humiliation. Most of ours were not severely degrading with verbal or physical abuse, as the 2 times we tried doing that I actually hated the experience. Rather the cuckolding was "implied or inferred humiliation". The idea that someone outside of the experience would think that this should be humiliating for me as a man. Those feelings would actually make me feel humiliation, embarrassment, and even jealousy. Something about those demeaning emotions combined with a heightened level of excitement is extremely attractive to me. As the owner of my own company I'm constantly in charge so relieving myself from that role and playing the subservient is a great way to release. So for me right now, this is what a cuckold is and why I'm okay occasionally defining myself as one.

I think you are correct about the manner in which humiliation is typically "implied or inferred". That is precisely consistent with the historical definition where the fact of the adultery was discussed in hush whispers and hidden behind closed doors as opposed to flaunted in front of the cuckold.

But it seems to me that humiliation is something you feel or don't feel. It is effectively an emotion - someone can do things that they think will make us happy or sad or humiliated, but it may not work out that way.

My hubby describes it as small doses of humiliation and jealousy derived simply from the fact that I am fucking another man mixed with a large dose of sexual excitement and the euphoria of releasing control of the situation. The mixture is a powerful and titillating cocktail. The mixture is just right when the other man shakes his hand politely then proceeds to fuck me - having the other man behave like an asshole or in an overtly abusive manner would throw off the mixture.

Again if we think of the historical context the humiliation was primarily inferred. It was assumed to be the case by society at large without the other man even having to interact with the cuckold and independent of whether the cuckold actually felt humiliated. If it so happened that the cuckold didn't feel humiliated for whatever reason (though not typical it isn't impossible) he was still deemed a cuckold.

 

[RipRespon]

I think you are correct about the manner in which humiliation is typically "implied or inferred". That is precisely consistent with the historical definition where the fact of the adultery was discussed in hush whispers and hidden behind closed doors as opposed to flaunted in front of the cuckold.

But it seems to me that humiliation is something you feel or don't feel. It is effectively an emotion - someone can do things that they think will make us happy or sad or humiliated, but it may not work out that way.

My hubby describes it as small doses of humiliation and jealousy derived simply from the fact that I am fucking another man mixed with a large dose of sexual excitement and the euphoria of releasing control of the situation. The mixture is a powerful and titillating cocktail. The mixture is just right when the other man shakes his hand politely then proceeds to fuck me - having the other man behave like an asshole or in an overtly abusive manner would throw off the mixture.

Again if we think of the historical context the humiliation was primarily inferred. It was assumed to be the case by society at large without the other man even having to interact with the cuckold and independent of whether the cuckold actually felt humiliated. If it so happened that the cuckold didn't feel humiliated for whatever reason (though not typical it isn't impossible) he was still deemed a cuckold.

Well stated and I believe you're right on target! There've been times that I'd be jerking off while watching my wife with another man with no plan to participate and not feel any humiliation. In those cases I'm still by definition a cuckold. But experiences when some jealousy and humiliation are present are still the most exciting and memorable. I guess that's why I define myself as a cuckold above all because that's what turns me on the most (well... that and a loving accepting partner).

 

[hotwifeandhubby]

Well stated and I believe you're right on target! There've been times that I'd be jerking off while watching my wife with another man with no plan to participate and not feel any humiliation. In those cases I'm still by definition a cuckold. But experiences when some jealousy and humiliation are present are still the most exciting and memorable. I guess that's why I define myself as a cuckold above all because that's what turns me on the most (well... that and a loving accepting partner).

One key point that we must all remember......we are each somewhat different and unique....it is those occasions when we happen upon that person who does seem like the "right one" that we feel really fortunate. Hubby and I have that feeling for one another. We are also of the mindset, I can say this because we've talked about the situation.....that if we ever encounter a time when jealousy or humiliation enters into the equation of things....be it from either of us, or from a suggestion of a partner(s) we will back away and regroup.....we both are completely of the understanding that jealousy is not a part of the picture....and humiliation is not what we are about.

Having said all that, I just will add that I can certainly see your point and the points of the others who have posted here. This is a great thread that I hope has opened the eyes of some regarding this topic....it's not for everyone, and for sure, we all see things slightly different as as such....none are completely wrong. It is all about enjoyment of sex, enjoyment of a lifestyle, and enjoyment of a loved one and friends or sometimes strangers.....let it be a fun thing for all.


Hot Wife

 

[policywank]

One key point that we must all remember......we are each somewhat different and unique....it is those occasions when we happen upon that person who does seem like the "right one" that we feel really fortunate. Hubby and I have that feeling for one another. We are also of the mindset, I can say this because we've talked about the situation.....that if we ever encounter a time when jealousy or humiliation enters into the equation of things....be it from either of us, or from a suggestion of a partner(s) we will back away and regroup.....we both are completely of the understanding that jealousy is not a part of the picture....and humiliation is not what we are about.

Having said all that, I just will add that I can certainly see your point and the points of the others who have posted here. This is a great thread that I hope has opened the eyes of some regarding this topic....it's not for everyone, and for sure, we all see things slightly different as as such....none are completely wrong. It is all about enjoyment of sex, enjoyment of a lifestyle, and enjoyment of a loved one and friends or sometimes strangers.....let it be a fun thing for all.


Hot Wife

Agreed. I think that is why I feel compelled to jump in when people start suggesting narrow parameters for what it means to fit this or that label, especially when those parameters are gleaned for the ridiculous world of porn.

 

[stevey29er]

This is an interesting thread and here are my two cents worth. First off, it seems the OP's intent is to put a label on his particular fantasies so that he can find porn that reflects said fantasies. I personally think that Cuckholding, as a fetish, comprises a very wide range of activities but at the root of it is a wife that is not sexually fulfilled by her husband alone, and so seeks sex from other men. There are infinite variations on the theme and I don't think porn even begins to scratch the surface of it. On the other hand, the stories and forum posts I've read here on LIT offer great insight to the countless variations on the cuckhold theme.

When I first came to LIT I had no idea that Cuckholding was a fetish. I only knew it by the traditional definition of an adulterous wife. Also implied in the definition was the fact that the wife's cheating was known by others and by the "cuckhold" husband who was powerless to stop it. So this definition does imply a measure of humiliation, often public.

Before my days on LIT, and before the internet existed even, the extent of my erotic literature experience was what I read in explicit historical fiction and Penthouse Letters. I was always drawn to the stories about men seeing their wives with other men. Some seemed really extreme with the humiliation theme, but even those intrigued me. The stories that made me the hottest were the ones where the husband was able to be an actual participant rather than just watching or being told about it. I was especially turned on by the stories that included feminization of the husband leading to bisexual encounters.

A few years into our marriage my wife and I began opening up to each other about our fantasies which led to bringing another man into our bedroom four different times for threesomes. At the time I wouldn't have defined it as a Cuckholding experience, but now some 16 years later I think that is exactly what it was to me. My wife and I had a great sex life, and even though she always assured me that I pleased her sexually, I never felt that I really was satisfying her. The man we played with was a close friend, and not only was his cock much larger than mine, he was much longer lasting as well. He was able to fuck my wife longer and deeper than I ever had and I loved watching her being pleased by another man that way. I also became obsessed with desire for his cock myself, which my wife was not into at all, but led to me exploring my bisexual side with him, but that's another story.

The threesomes were put to a stop because my wife and I wanted a family, so we had two children and our sex life became nearly non-existent for the next dozen years or so. All the while I kept my fantasies alive and even did some occasional exploration on the side, then about a year ago something amazing happened, my wife entered menopause and her libido came back! Now we are having regular sex again, at least once a week, and she is amazing, she gets me hard with her great blowjobs and I fuck her the best that I can, but my dick hasn't got any bigger, and I am not always able to maintain an erection, and even when I do, I often ejaculate prematurely. Now I am a man that wants to please my lady, so toys have become an integral part of our sex life. I just love how turned on she gets and how many orgasms she can get with a vibrator. It's such a turn on when she sucks my cock while she fucks herself with a dildo. She gets so into it and I talk dirty to her and tell her what a naughty cock loving slut she is and how much she loves being filled with two cocks, and when I cum in her mouth I am totally imagining her being fucked by another man. I don't think it's much of a leap that she would actually enjoy another cock, but she doesn't even want to talk about it anymore, so I just keep fantasizing and enjoying what we have.

Sorry to go on so long about my own story, my point is that for me there is definitely a bit of humiliation factor involved in Cuckholding. I don't think my wife could ever verbally humiliate me, but my fantasies revolve around my own feelings of sexual inadequacy. I have embraced this though, and to me part of being a good cuckhold is finding ways to please my partner. In my wildest fantasy I would be completely at the mercy of a sexually empowered woman, one that knows my deepest darkest desires and pushes the boundaries, even if that includes some humiliation.

 

[RipRespon]

One key point that we must all remember......we are each somewhat different and unique....it is those occasions when we happen upon that person who does seem like the "right one" that we feel really fortunate. Hubby and I have that feeling for one another. We are also of the mindset, I can say this because we've talked about the situation.....that if we ever encounter a time when jealousy or humiliation enters into the equation of things....be it from either of us, or from a suggestion of a partner(s) we will back away and regroup.....we both are completely of the understanding that jealousy is not a part of the picture....and humiliation is not what we are about.

Having said all that, I just will add that I can certainly see your point and the points of the others who have posted here. This is a great thread that I hope has opened the eyes of some regarding this topic....it's not for everyone, and for sure, we all see things slightly different as as such....none are completely wrong. It is all about enjoyment of sex, enjoyment of a lifestyle, and enjoyment of a loved one and friends or sometimes strangers.....let it be a fun thing for all.


Hot Wife

I agree with you and policywank, fetishes, and our experiences of them, are very personal. We all have reasons for defining ourselves or activities in a specific category. That's why I mean to state in my opinions that this is why I define myself this way.

BTW, I'm enjoying this high level and very intelligent discussion. It helps me to understand and express myself better. Thanks!