Creationism.

Is Creationism a science?


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Tolerance is overrated. Especially when you teach people things that may, at critical points, have them acting on false information.

Case in point: Global warming? Depleting natural resources? Nah... Don't worry. The Rapture'll be along soon and then the sinners can reap what they (we) sow.

Maybe not YOUR view point. But this is what can happen when the bible is seen as equal to or above science and evidence.



Most organic things are perishable, yes. It's only the nasty artificial plastic things (like religion) that last for far far too long.

Your right this is not my point of view. I think a lot could be said against people with extreme views from both sides. I simply advocate that if you are going to discuss theories what is the harm in discussing them. Instead of one point of view that controls legistlation mandating it. I just feel bad that this blanket term of "religion" is used to advocate hate towards people like me who just want to show love. I recycle, I try to be an advocate for the enviroment. After all, God created it, why would I not want to take care of it. Your last statement just makes me sad.
 
I just feel bad that this blanket term of "religion" is used to advocate hate towards people like me who just want to show love.

Because if all of the un-loving acts committed in the name of religion. The atrocities that were justified in the name of a god.

It is not hate you are sensing - it is anger over the self delusion and its negative social consequences, for everyone.
 
Your right this is not my point of view. I think a lot could be said against people with extreme views from both sides. I simply advocate that if you are going to discuss theories what is the harm in discussing them. Instead of one point of view that controls legistlation mandating it. I just feel bad that this blanket term of "religion" is used to advocate hate towards people like me who just want to show love. I recycle, I try to be an advocate for the enviroment. After all, God created it, why would I not want to take care of it. Your last statement just makes me sad.

Then discuss religion along with philosophy and mythology, where it belongs.

Leave science to facts, and keep the fancies separate.

Creationism is as valid a "theory" as the world having been hatched from an egg... and just about as useful.
 
Creationism is as valid a "theory" as the world having been hatched from an egg... and just about as useful.

But if you can explain it so much better "Ok it was a big bang. I'm a scientist so it must be so." A bunch of bunk!
 
Because if all of the un-loving acts committed in the name of religion. The atrocities that were justified in the name of a god.

It is not hate you are sensing - it is anger over the self delusion and its negative social consequences, for everyone.


The people who did the unloving things are idiots not God.
 
But if you can explain it so much better "Ok it was a big bang. I'm a scientist so it must be so." A bunch of bunk!

During Confirmation classes, a nun told us that there were problems with Genesis, like oh I don't know...Eve wasn't Adam's first wife!!! Lillith was!!

I laugh each and everytime when some "Christian" begins spouting that the Bible is true...and I remind them to re-read Genesis, and ask them about Lillith. Most have no valid answer.
 
But if you can explain it so much better "Ok it was a big bang. I'm a scientist so it must be so." A bunch of bunk!
The Bible only attempts to explain the creation of Earth. It has next to nothing about the creation of the universe.
 
During Confirmation classes, a nun told us that there were problems with Genesis, like oh I don't know...Eve wasn't Adam's first wife!!! Lillith was!!

I laugh each and everytime when some "Christian" begins spouting that the Bible is true...and I remind them to re-read Genesis, and ask them about Lillith. Most have no valid answer.

Actually Genesis doesn't mention Lilith. She is only mentioned in Isaiah 3:14. written about 540 BC. It is Jewish folklore of the 8-10th century that claims Lillith to be Adams 1st wife. The resulting Lilith legand is still commonly used in modern culture, liteature, occultism and fantasy.
 
The Bible only attempts to explain the creation of Earth. It has next to nothing about the creation of the universe.

Do you think so? I take it In the beginning God Created the heavens and the Earth to mean the universe. What do you think?
 
Actually Genesis doesn't mention Lilith. She is only mentioned in Isaiah 3:14. written about 540 BC. It is Jewish folklore of the 8-10th century that claims Lillith to be Adams 1st wife. The resulting Lilith legand is still commonly used in modern culture, liteature, occultism and fantasy.

I don't what the King James version says, but in the Catholic version, Eve appears in Chapter 2, after God created a wife for Adam.....
 
Job 38:31 “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades? Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
Job 38:32 Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs?
What the fuck is that all about? Doesn't God have a basic understanding of astronomy?
 
I don't what the King James version says, but in the Catholic version, Eve appears in Chapter 2, after God created a wife for Adam.....

Eve does but there is no mention of Lilith is there? Mine would not be the Catholic edition so I am just asking. Thanks for checking it out.
 
I think it is talking about the Universe. I like other opinions to be discussed. Just wondering.
First, we would need to assume that "heavens" and the universe are identical. Many would argue that "heavens" are a separate reality from our universe.

Second, it only says when and by whom the universe was created. And since the evidence shows that the universe is much, much older than the planet Earth, the claim that they were both made "in the beginning" doesn't hold much water.
 
But if you can explain it so much better "Ok it was a big bang. I'm a scientist so it must be so." A bunch of bunk!

If you think that's the whole of it, I can but lament your ignorance.

No one says just that and expects it to be a fullsome explanation.

Even I am not so well versed as to explain all of the time, thought, observation and math that has informed what you have so glibly dismissed.
 
If you think that's the whole of it, I can but lament your ignorance.

No one says just that and expects it to be a fullsome explanation.

Even I am not so well versed as to explain all of the time, thought, observation and math that has informed what you have so glibly dismissed.

I think it is so funny that you can say you "are not well versed as to explain all the time, thought, observation, and math that has informed what you so glibly dismiss." If I said the same thing about my belief in the bible I would be laughed right out of here. It is like saying yes, I believe in that, but I have no idea why. And I am ignorant? No!!!!
 
First, we would need to assume that "heavens" and the universe are identical. Many would argue that "heavens" are a separate reality from our universe.

Second, it only says when and by whom the universe was created. And since the evidence shows that the universe is much, much older than the planet Earth, the claim that they were both made "in the beginning" doesn't hold much water.

I don't assume, I believe that the "heavens" and universe are identical. I would like to know how you figure they dated the entire universe. Interesting????
 
I don't assume, I believe that the "heavens" and universe are identical. I would like to know how you figure they dated the entire universe. Interesting????

Cosmic background radiation. Next question?
 
In the past 10 years, we have seen great advances in the field of radiometric dating. Research has demonstrated that the rate of decay of certain radioactive isotopes was much faster in the past. This explains why many radiometric age estimates of certain rocks are vastly inflated from the true age. It also means that radiometric dating cannot be used legitimately as an argument against the biblical timescale. What was once a problem for biblical creation is now an asset.

Source : Institute for Creation Research.

Next question: How are you?
 
In the past 10 years, we have seen great advances in the field of radiometric dating. Research has demonstrated that the rate of decay of certain radioactive isotopes was much faster in the past. This explains why many radiometric age estimates of certain rocks are vastly inflated from the true age. It also means that radiometric dating cannot be used legitimately as an argument against the biblical timescale. What was once a problem for biblical creation is now an asset.

Source : Institute for Creation Research.

Next question: How are you?

That is a complete lie.
 
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