Cousins

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Cousin kinships puzzle most people. What in hell does 4th cousin, twice removed mean?

Untangling it is fairly simple if you remain calm and stick to a very few basic ideas. Otay?

ONE: You and the cousin must share a common ancestor who's a grandparent to some degree.

TWO: Cousins share equal rank in descent from the grandparent. For example, my daddy's 1st cousin, Cornelia, is my 1st cousin, once removed, as we do not share the same descent rank' Cornelia and my daddy do share the same place and rank. Cornelia and my kids are 1st cousins, twice removed; she and my grandkids are 1st cousins, thrice removed.

Cornelia's children and me are 2nd cousins cuz we share the same rank of descent from our common great-grandparent. Their kids and my kids are 3rd cousins.


THREE: Youre prolly a cousin to everyone. My mother's stepfather was also her 5th cousin, and her half sisters are her 5th cousins, once removed. All of them share a common ancestor way back in the past.

 

[lovecraft68]

Awww, I thought this was going to be an incest thread! I figured some cousins in one of your trailer trash stories were going to hook up.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Awww, I thought this was going to be an incest thread! I figured some cousins in one of your trailer trash stories were going to hook up.

Real trailer trash have no idea who their cousins are or might be. As it is I stretch the truth when my characters are sanitary and groomed.

If my stories were half correct the trailer carpets would be soaked with dog urine, and the bath tubs would be fulla rotting, mildewed dirty clothes.

 

[CDWilder]

Real trailer trash have no idea who their cousins are or might be.

Real trailer trash buy greeting cards that read, "Happy Birthday Uncle Dad", or introduce their wife and sister... and there's one person standing there.

I get confused by the cousin thing too.

"So are you my first cousin twice removed, or my second cousin once removed, or my cousin who had that thing on his neck removed twice?"

 

[sr71plt]

I've tried having some of my cousins removed. Yes, and even twice and three times removed.

 

[lovecraft68]

Anything past first cousin is not considered incest so at that point are they even really family?

 

[TE999]

I had a cousin twice removed, then they said she was finally cured and she's loose again. If you tell her where I am I will hurt you, I mean it.

 

[SecondCircle]

The removed thing is confusing and ridiculous.

But "removed" does refer to the generations. Your cousin's child is your First cousin Once removed.

Your child and your cousins child are Second Cousins.

Your cousin's grandson is your First cousin Twice removed.

Your grandchild and your cousin's grandchild are Third cousins.

Kinda dumb at that point, I think. Like saying, "I'm 1/64th Cherokee Indian" or something. At that point, is there really that much blood to really matter?

 

[lovecraft68]

The removed thing is confusing and ridiculous.

But "removed" does refer to the generations. Your cousin's child is your First cousin Once removed.

Your child and your cousins child are Second Cousins.

Your cousin's grandson is your First cousin Twice removed.

Your grandchild and your cousin's grandchild are Third cousins.

Kinda dumb at that point, I think. Like saying, "I'm 1/64th Cherokee Indian" or something. At that point, is there really that much blood to really matter?

Yeah but 1/64th Cherokee Indian could get you free education

The whole thing makes me think of that rambling chapter in Matthew. So and so begat so and so who begat....

For me once I get past first cousin its not really family, which is something I fairly recently told a second cousin(who I might hear from once a year or so) who tried to hit me up for money. I told him no and he tried, "But we're family"

 

[CDWilder]

For me once I get past first cousin its not really family, which is something I fairly recently told a second cousin(who I might hear from once a year or so) who tried to hit me up for money. I told him no and he tried, "But we're family"

To me, there are two kinds of family: your genetic family, and your real family. Your genetic family is just that: your direct biological connections. Your real family are those you love, who love you, who are by each other's side in good and bad times. I've got a very small genetic family, but a large real family. There is one person in my life who I don't think I have ANY biological connection to more recent than Y-chromosomal Adam, but I would jump in front of a bullet for her without thinking. Then there's my aunt (direct biological relative, my mother's sister) who I (and the rest of my clan) would push in front of a bullet... even if none of us were at risk.

Long story short (too late!): Family is what you make of it.

 

[lovecraft68]

To me, there are two kinds of family: your genetic family, and your real family. Your genetic family is just that: your direct biological connections. Your real family are those you love, who love you, who are by each other's side in good and bad times. I've got a very small genetic family, but a large real family. There is one person in my life who I don't think I have ANY biological connection to more recent than Y-chromosomal Adam, but I would jump in front of a bullet for her without thinking. Then there's my aunt (direct biological relative, my mother's sister) who I (and the rest of my clan) would push in front of a bullet... even if none of us were at risk.

Long story short (too late!): Family is what you make of it.

I was raised in a foster home. So although not biological those are the people I call mom,dad and sis.

I also have several good friends and even a couple of co workers who would come before my real family.

For me, most of my "real" family can take a flying fuck for all I care. Many of them I had not heard from in years until someone started talking that my wife and I do okay for ourselves and might have some money we could dole out to their needy asses.

Its that you can pick your friends, but not your family situation.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Naaah. While I stipulate that friends are often better family than blood kin, I discovered that many of our ancestors were the best sort of people, and every litter has its runts.

The other thing is, when I look back over my life, and at the people I hold grudges against, if the truth be told I'm prolly the real villain. Every 19 year old is an asshole, and pushes people outta their comfort zones, cuz they can.

 

[lovecraft68]

Naaah. While I stipulate that friends are often better family than blood kin, I discovered that many of our ancestors were the best sort of people, and every litter has its runts.

The other thing is, when I look back over my life, and at the people I hold grudges against, if the truth be told I'm prolly the real villain. Every 19 year old is an asshole, and pushes people outta their comfort zones, cuz they can.

Sins of the past shape the present. I have people who still hate the sound of my name for things I did over 2 decades ago.

I've changed a lot, but they'll never take the time to know that. Truth be told I don't care.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Sins of the past shape the present. I have people who still hate the sound of my name for things I did over 2 decades ago.

I've changed a lot, but they'll never take the time to know that. Truth be told I don't care.

This week I ended friendship with a guy I've been best friends with since 1959. He always had one flaw that tests the love and devotion of friends and family, that is, he's always hot & bothered for his next best friend, and when he's got his hard on he treats his siblings and old friends shabby. For example. In late 2012 he connected with a woman we went to school with, and they became tight via online.

She's a recent widow, and was an easy lay back at school. And she moved back to town to take care of her mom. My friends family lives here, too. So what my buddy did was sneak home, told his wife he was gonna spend the day with me, and spent it with our classmate. So when I found out I told him to FO. Its one thing for him to let me know he's got a shot at some strange and cant come by, and its another thing for him, to call with a BS lame excuse for not stopping by, and especially since he has to drive by my house to get to the tail.