court hands win to florida teachers over de santis's order

[butters]

he ordered all teachers to return to open schools--they want it safe to do so. court upholds their case. for now, at least


the case: https://www.clickorlando.com/news/l...teachers-union-fights-to-keep-schools-closed/

 

[HisArpy]

STFU Miles...



(You must be a BB Alt, WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LINKY?)

 

[Conager]

Great that teachers are "winning" as opposed to the children they are charged with educating.

Best take on this I have seen is that if school can be taught remotely, it can be taught from India.

 

[Tryharder62]

I read this first as teachers overcoming Satan's order.

My friend's daughter is at college and the teacher's got to choose if they wanted to teach in person or not. They had until right before check in to decide. She has no classes in person - all online - but she's living in the dorms. Way to get the dorm fees I quess.

 

[Conager]

Instruction is already done mostly by grad students, many of whom are foreign nationals..universities like importing the help because they can charge them more, and they work for less all while keeping the "diversity" numbers up.

There is no reason for those foreign grad students to travel to the US to teach an online course.

 

[silver gurl]

No choice here. "All classes in primary schools, and at the Secondary I, II, and III grade levels will be in class full-time with regular pupil-teacher ratios in place.

Physical distancing will not be required between students in the same class group. However, students must remain two metres away from their teachers and other school staff and one metre away from students in another group.

Due to the plan to keep students in the same class group always, the “bubbles” of five or six students that existed in the spring are being discontinued. Face coverings and masks will not be required for students from preschool to grade four but will be required for grades five and beyond unless a student cannot wear a mask for medical reasons.

In Québec, nearly all of the return-to-school rules and procedures have been coordinated by the Ministry of Education, unlike in Ontario where the province has set guidelines but left much of the decision making to individual school boards. In Québec, the School Service Centres and school boards are responsible for implementing the provincial rules."

The dictatorship of Quebec. We shall see....

 

[Fuzzy1975]

No choice here. "All classes in primary schools, and at the Secondary I, II, and III grade levels will be in class full-time with regular pupil-teacher ratios in place.

Physical distancing will not be required between students in the same class group. However, students must remain two metres away from their teachers and other school staff and one metre away from students in another group.

Due to the plan to keep students in the same class group always, the “bubbles” of five or six students that existed in the spring are being discontinued. Face coverings and masks will not be required for students from preschool to grade four but will be required for grades five and beyond unless a student cannot wear a mask for medical reasons.

In Québec, nearly all of the return-to-school rules and procedures have been coordinated by the Ministry of Education, unlike in Ontario where the province has set guidelines but left much of the decision making to individual school boards. In Québec, the School Service Centres and school boards are responsible for implementing the provincial rules."

The dictatorship of Quebec. We shall see....

Sounds like a disaster in the making.

 

[silver gurl]

Sounds like a disaster in the making.

Check in with me in approximately 4 weeks.

 

[Bad_Egg]

India = USA Reduction in $100,000 teacher salaries. Ouch.

Great that teachers are "winning" as opposed to the children they are charged with educating.

Best take on this I have seen is that if school can be taught remotely, it can be taught from India.

.....

 

[Conager]

No choice here. "All classes in primary schools, and at the Secondary I, II, and III grade levels will be in class full-time with regular pupil-teacher ratios in place.

Physical distancing will not be required between students in the same class group. However, students must remain two metres away from their teachers and other school staff and one metre away from students in another group.

Due to the plan to keep students in the same class group always, the “bubbles” of five or six students that existed in the spring are being discontinued. Face coverings and masks will not be required for students from preschool to grade four but will be required for grades five and beyond unless a student cannot wear a mask for medical reasons.

In Québec, nearly all of the return-to-school rules and procedures have been coordinated by the Ministry of Education, unlike in Ontario where the province has set guidelines but left much of the decision making to individual school boards. In Québec, the School Service Centres and school boards are responsible for implementing the provincial rules."

The dictatorship of Quebec. We shall see....

In the world, appropriate spacing is 39 1/3". In America. They say 6' because most Americans do not understand the metric system, and a yard is just not enough. that three and a third inches is killer.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Check in with me in approximately 4 weeks.

It really is not much better here, the province set guidelines, and class size limitations, but those limits do not apply equally across all the regions. Up here in the Northwest, we will still have class's of 28-35 students.

Since the province is not giving the local boards extra money, to hire additional staff, it will just be a matter of a few weeks before we are in the same boat as the one you will be in in Quebec...

 

[Lazaran]

I read this first as teachers overcoming Satan's order.

My friend's daughter is at college and the teacher's got to choose if they wanted to teach in person or not. They had until right before check in to decide. She has no classes in person - all online - but she's living in the dorms. Way to get the dorm fees I quess.

Fortunately, there's more to college than classes. It's often a young persons first attempt at being independent. It also provides an opportunity for them to meet people from different cultures. Talking on line will never be a viable substitute for in person dialogue.

Brainstorming and cooperative endeavors are either impossible or far less effective when done via zoom.

It also gets the young people out of the house, which often benefits the parents as much as the students.

College, (and campus life), even in its diminished form , still has some measurable benefits.

Keeping young people who have been less than diligent about following Covid guidelines separate from older staff while there is still no effective vaccine or therapeutic seems reasonable.

 

[Curmudgeonly]

How is "college life" without classroom interaction differentiated from "young people not living in mom's basement life?"

 

[Lazaran]

How is "college life" without classroom interaction differentiated from "young people not living in mom's basement life?"

I thought I laid that out pretty clearly in my post.

Let me guess. You didn't go to a college that emphasized reading comprehension.

 

[Curmudgeonly]

Given that one's first apartment is usually in the culturally diverse part of town, I don't see how that experience is unique to college students currently quarantined in dormitories.

Maybe when you get out of the dormitory, you will see how culturally diverse the world is.

 

[Lazaran]

Given that one's first apartment is usually in the culturally diverse part of town, I don't see how that experience is unique to college students currently quarantined in dormitories.

Maybe when you get out of the dormitory, you will see how culturally diverse the world is.

I'm guessing at your age you don't see much at all.

Your assumption that young people who don't go to college immediately leave home and get an apartment in some culturally diverse neighborhood is exactly that. An ASSumption.

 

[bellisarius]

Be careful what you ask for.............you just may get it.

Virtual classrooms will require far fewer teachers. The union jerks are going to force the various administrations to re-evaluate how "education" is delivered and I seriously doubt the union, or the teachers, will be enthused about the results of that re-evaluation.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Great that teachers are "winning" as opposed to the children they are charged with educating.

Best take on this I have seen is that if school can be taught remotely, it can be taught from India.

That would be a very long commute.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/a7/38/d3a738413b1b9c65333276c89ed82476.gif

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Be careful what you ask for.............you just may get it.

Virtual classrooms will require far fewer teachers. The union jerks are going to force the various administrations to re-evaluate how "education" is delivered and I seriously doubt the union, or the teachers, will be enthused about the results of that re-evaluation.

Florida has a class size law, so no, it wouldn't require far fewer teachers.

 

[HisArpydo]

Great that teachers are "winning" as opposed to the children they are charged with educating.

Best take on this I have seen is that if school can be taught remotely, it can be taught from India.

How dare they want a safe work environment!

Have you considered suicide lately? Asking for the GB.

 

[KeithD]

Well, of course, Trumpettes who have no trouble requiring that teachers arm up and prepare to take a bullet for the kids because, you know, the Second Amendment, certainly have no trouble with requiring teachers to be good with getting Covid from kids, dying, and sending the Covid home with other kids to kill their families.

 

[Tryharder62]

Fortunately, there's more to college than classes. It's often a young persons first attempt at being independent. It also provides an opportunity for them to meet people from different cultures. Talking on line will never be a viable substitute for in person dialogue.

Brainstorming and cooperative endeavors are either impossible or far less effective when done via zoom.

It also gets the young people out of the house, which often benefits the parents as much as the students.

College, (and campus life), even in its diminished form , still has some measurable benefits.

Keeping young people who have been less than diligent about following Covid guidelines separate from older staff while there is still no effective vaccine or therapeutic seems reasonable.

I get what you are saying, but I just think it would have been nice if they would have had the decisions made so the student and parent could decide how to spend the housing money. It ain't cheap - especially if your class interaction is all going to be online.

 

[Lazaran]

What is the big deal about waiting another couple months to see if the recent spike in cases and deaths diminishes, and to determine if flu season will trigger a tandem crisis. This push to cram kids and teachers together in classrooms, right as a known secondary threat is coming into play, is borderline criminal negligence. Early returns have not been good for schools that have reopened, and that is without factoring in the inevitable cases of the flu that will only compound the danger. The rewards just don't justify the risks at this point in time. It isn't optimal or easy to keep the kids home, but the alternative is potentially disastrous.

Just more proof that right wingers are the real snowflakes.
They can't handle the deprivation that comes with fighting the war against Covid. They just might want to crack open a history book for the first time in their lives and read about the sacrifices made during other wars. The greatest generation must be ashamed of their boomer children. They turned out to be sooooo soft.

 

[doowdniw]

Well, of course, Trumpettes who have no trouble requiring that teachers arm up and prepare to take a bullet for the kids because, you know, the Second Amendment, certainly have no trouble with requiring teachers to be good with getting Covid from kids, dying, and sending the Covid home with other kids to kill their families.

Kids die from Covid, too, despite what Trump or DeSantis want to believe. 6 year old in Florida, today.

 

[Tryharder62]

Fortunately, there's more to college than classes. It's often a young persons first attempt at being independent. It also provides an opportunity for them to meet people from different cultures. Talking on line will never be a viable substitute for in person dialogue.

Brainstorming and cooperative endeavors are either impossible or far less effective when done via zoom.

It also gets the young people out of the house, which often benefits the parents as much as the students.

College, (and campus life), even in its diminished form , still has some measurable benefits.

Keeping young people who have been less than diligent about following Covid guidelines separate from older staff while there is still no effective vaccine or therapeutic seems reasonable.

What is the big deal about waiting another couple months to see if the recent spike in cases and deaths diminishes, and to determine if flu season will trigger a tandem crisis. This push to cram kids and teachers together in classrooms, right as a known secondary threat is coming into play, is borderline criminal negligence. Early returns have not been good for schools that have reopened, and that is without factoring in the inevitable cases of the flu that will only compound the danger. The rewards just don't justify the risks at this point in time. It isn't optimal or easy to keep the kids home, but the alternative is potentially disastrous.

Just more proof that right wingers are the real snowflakes.
They can't handle the deprivation that comes with fighting the war against Covid. They just might want to crack open a history book for the first time in their lives and read about the sacrifices made during other wars. The greatest generation must be ashamed of their boomer children. They turned out to be sooooo soft.

Are you holding your own debate?