COULDN'T give a shit.

[Sean]

*cough* bullshit *cough*

Clarify.

 

[wazhazhe]

Clarify.

*cough* bullshit *cough* was my reaction to the idea the BNP was 'the voice of reason in the UK'.

 

[wazhazhe]

Oh, I just read the transcript of the interview with Julian Leppart. As a comedy act, the guy is great. As a politician, he's scary.

 

[Sean]

*cough* bullshit *cough* was my reaction to the idea the BNP was 'the voice of reason in the UK'.

That's what I thought you meant, but yanks are strange. Garby and Airhead92 seem to think it's genuine mainstream politics.

 

[Peregrinator]

What's wrong with that?

It's a technically inaccurate use of the adverb.

Usually, if I say, "Hopefully, you'll read this post," what I mean is, "I hope you'll read this post," not "You will read this post in a hopeful manner."

The adverb describes the named action, in this case, your reading, not the state of mind of the speaker, in this case me. See? If that's still unclear, try substituting another adverb. Quickly, you'll read this post. Joyously, you'll read this post. Humbly, you'll read this post. Etc.

It's a word that rarely gets used correctly anymore.

 

[Sean]

It's a technically inaccurate use of the adverb.

Usually, if I say, "Hopefully, you'll read this post," what I mean is, "I hope you'll read this post," not "You will read this post in a hopeful manner."

The adverb describes the named action, in this case, your reading, not the state of mind of the speaker, in this case me. See? If that's still unclear, try substituting another adverb. Quickly, you'll read this post. Joyously, you'll read this post. Humbly, you'll read this post. Etc.

It's a word that rarely gets used correctly anymore.

It's no wonder Myst likes you.

 

[JammieDodger]

If you pay too much attention to grammar and regionalisms, it becomes a plague. I have to shut off my internal editor every time I post on here or read anything written by anybody.

What the fuck is wrong with the comma? All it could have been replaced with would be 'as'.

As for the irony debate, it's not ironic as that simply doesn't fall under the definition of irony.

P.S. Correct my english and I spunk on your family.

 

[wazhazhe]

That's what I thought you meant, but yanks are strange. Garby and Airhead92 seem to think it's genuine mainstream politics.

Those guys lean so far to the right it's a wonder they don't fall over.

 

[Peregrinator]

It's no wonder Myst likes you.

That's only a small part of it.

 

[Peregrinator]

What the fuck is wrong with the comma? All it could have been replaced with would be 'as'.

As for the irony debate, it's not ironic as that simply doesn't fall under the definition of irony.

P.S. Correct my english and I spunk on your family.

It should have been a semicolon.

 

[Sean]

It should have been a semicolon.

Now there's a thread when I can be arsed.

 

[Peregrinator]

Now there's a thread when I can be arsed.

I'll stay out of it, likely. That's a tangled one to try to explain.

 

[John Doe]

That's what I thought you meant, but yanks are strange. Garby and Airhead92 seem to think it's genuine mainstream politics.

What I don't get is why people were complaining about the BBC giving him airtime. They did a public service. He was a vascillating fucktard, the callers owned him and the host made him a joke.

It's win-win-win.

 

[JammieDodger]

It should have been a semicolon.

Forget I said that...

...hohum.

 

[Peregrinator]

Forget I said that...

...hohum.

No prob, JD. We can't all waste substantial amounts of brain space on such trivia. I can't seem to help it, personally.

 

[wazhazhe]

It drives me nuts every time I see it. [sentence fragment]And I've never heard it in the UK[improper comma use],[/improper comma use] only Americans seem to do it.[/sentence fragment]

If you pay too much attention to grammar and regionalisms, it becomes a plague. I have to shut off my internal editor every time I post on here or read anything written by anybody.

It’s been 30 + years since I studied grammar and I have a couple of questions. Isn’t the first sentence a complete sentence? The second one has a comma splice (I think that’s the term.) but wouldn’t each fragment separated by the comma stand on their own as complete sentences? That is, if you put a period after ‘UK’ and started a new sentence with ‘Only’ wouldn’t the result be two complete sentences?

 

[Sean]

What I don't get is why people were complaining about the BBC giving him airtime. They did a public service. He was a vascillating fucktard, the callers owned him and the host made him a joke.

It's win-win-win.

Phone ins involve the general public. People are stupid.

 

[Peregrinator]

It’s been 30 + years since I studied grammar and I have a couple of questions. Isn’t the first sentence a complete sentence? The second one has a comma splice (I think that’s the term.) but wouldn’t each fragment separated by the comma stand on their own as complete sentences? That is, if you put a period after ‘UK’ and started a new sentence with ‘Only’ wouldn’t the result be two complete sentences?

It drives me nuts every time I see it. [sentence fragment]And I've never heard it in the UK[improper comma use],[/improper comma use] only Americans seem to do it.[/sentence fragment]

Yes, the first is a fine simple declarative sentence. My notation refers to "And I've never heard it in the UK...." which begins with a prepostion, making it a prepositional phrase improperly set alone as sentence.

The comma should replaced with a semicolon, or as you suggest, a full stop, because assuming you get rid of the "And," the group before the comma would now be a complete thought, an independent clause. And, (*grin*) yes, the second is already an independent clause, so separating them with a period and losing the initial "And" would be a fine fix. The semicolon also confers a relation between them, though, which is why I suggested it.

My red ink could have been placed more clearly; I meant to show that the entire group of words beginning with "And" and ending with "it" was a sentence fragment, because the "And" rendered it one long dependent clause.

 

[wazhazhe]

Yes, the first is a fine simple declarative sentence. My notation refers to "And I've never heard it in the UK...." which begins with a prepostion, making it a prepositional phrase improperly set alone as sentence.

I don't understand what you mean by the phrase 'begins with a preposition'. If I remember correctly, 'in' is a preposition and 'in the UK' a prepositional phrase. Isn't the subject 'I' and verb 'heard'? What am I missing?

Thanks for your response.

 

[Sean]

Look. If it sounds wrong, it's wrong. I have the OED as backup.

 

[wazhazhe]

Look. If it sounds wrong, it's wrong. I have the OED as backup.

That's the thing; it doesn't sound wrong to me.