Could you live on £53 per week? or are you a parasite? IDS could !!!!

[hobbit.]

Iain Duncan Smith: I could live on £53 in benefits a week

Work and pensions secretary has been challenged to fulfil his claim that he could live on £53 a week in benefits

The work and pensions secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, has been challenged to prove that he can fulfil his claim that he could live on £53 a week in benefits.

Defending the vast array of welfare reforms being introduced this week as part of the government's deficit reduction programme, Duncan Smith was asked on BBC Radio 4 whether, following an example of a market trader David Bennett, he could survive on £53 a week — the amount Bennett claimed he was left with to live on and roughly equivalent to the lowest rate of jobseeker's allowance given to adults under 25.

"If I had to I would, "Duncan Smith replied. His claim prompted an online petition calling on him to prove it that chalked up 25,000 signatures in its first day.

It follows an interview on Sunday by Grant Shapps, the Conservative party chairman, in which he cited the fact that his two sons shared a bedroom at his four-bed home, in defence of the so-called bedroom tax.

Duncan Smith earns £1,600 a week after tax as a cabinet minister and his travel fares would cost £20 or more from his home to Westminster.

edited from http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/01/iain-duncan-smith-live-benefits

All these working class wastrels... workhouse is too good for 'em!

 

[Sean]

The annual Sunday Times Rich List yields four very important conclusions for the governance of Britain (Report, Weekend, 28 April). It shows that the richest 1,000 persons, just 0.003% of the adult population, increased their wealth over the last three years by £155bn. That is enough for themselves alone to pay off the entire current UK budget deficit and still leave them with £30bn to spare.

Second, this mega-rich elite, containing many of the bankers and hedge fund and private equity operators who caused the financial crash in the first place, have not been made subject to any tax payback whatever commensurate to their gains. Some 77% of the budget deficit is being recouped by public expenditure cuts and benefit cuts, and only 23% is being repaid by tax increases. More than half of the tax increases is accounted for by the VAT rise which hits the poorest hardest. None of the tax increases is specifically aimed at the super-rich.

Third, despite the biggest slump for nearly a century, these 1,000 richest are now sitting on wealth greater even than at the height of the boom just before the crash. Their wealth now amounts to £414bn, equivalent to more than a third of Britain's entire GDP. They include 77 billionaires and 23 others, each possessing more than £750m.

The increase in wealth of this richest 1,000 has been £315bn over the last 15 years. If they were charged capital gains tax on this at the current 28% rate, it would yield £88bn, enough to pay off 70% of the entire deficit. It seems however that Osborne takes the notorious view of the New York heiress, Leonora Helmsley: "Only the little people pay taxes."
Michael Meacher MP
Labour, Oldham West and Royton
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/may/02/scourge-wealth-divide?INTCMP=SRCH

 

[hobbit.]

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/iain-duncan-smith-iain-duncan-smith-to-live-on-53-a-week

feel free to pass the link around....

 

[Kitty_Schrödinger]

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/iain-duncan-smith-iain-duncan-smith-to-live-on-53-a-week

feel free to pass the link around....

Oh, I did.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If you tax them at 28% though they'll all move to America and then you won't have taxes, bankers or jobs.

 

[hobbit.]

If you tax them at 28% though they'll all move to America and then you won't have taxes, bankers or jobs.

and the world will still turn.

what was your point?

 

[Sean Renaud]

and the world will still turn.

what was your point?

The world might turn, but you'll starve to death. And that would be a shame since Sean might go with you. It'll be like 28 Weeks Later, once you're done starving we'll just set up camp.

 

[hobbit.]

The world might turn, but you'll starve to death. And that would be a shame since Sean might go with you. It'll be like 28 Weeks Later, once you're done starving we'll just set up camp.

the world might turn, indeed, you ever read 'the world turned upside down' ?

I would like to see IDS live on 53 quid a week.

 

[Sean]

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/iain-duncan-smith-iain-duncan-smith-to-live-on-53-a-week

feel free to pass the link around....

Signed and shared.

 

[butters]

Signed and shared.

dit.toe.

 

[hobbit.]

IDS on 53 quid a week for a year.....

we are all in this together......

Gerrard had it right all those years ago.

 

[Sean]

IDS on 53 quid a week for a year.....

we are all in this together......

Gerrard had it right all those years ago.

As long as he's not allowed to use the couple of grands' worth of food in his house or his ministerial car and has to pay the lecky and gas at prepay rates.

 

[JohnnySavage]

The world might turn, but you'll starve to death. And that would be a shame since Sean might go with you. It'll be like 28 Weeks Later, once you're done starving we'll just set up camp.

What's really funny about this post is that it shows an ironic lack of knowledge of global banking and how money moves.

The US taxpayer gave the world's bankers about half a trillion dollars for free. The bankers then invested the money in themselves by paying off under-performing assets at a discount. They made (and are making) a ton of money, from which they paid back the taxpayers and kept the difference.

The result of the banking crisis is that the bankers are richer then ever and people like you (and vette) champion the plight of the super-rich, while they snicker among themselves at how stupid the peasants are.

It's truly astounding.

The mega-rich don't feed you. You are a worm to them.

 

[hobbit.]

As long as he's not allowed to use the couple of grands' worth of food in his house or his ministerial car and has to pay the lecky and gas at prepay rates.

"This petition calls for Iain Duncan Smith, the current Work and Pensions Secretary, to prove his claim of being able to live on £7.57 a day, or £53 a week.

On this morning's Today Programme David Bennett, a market trader, said that after his housing benefit had been cut, he lives on £53 per week. The next interviewee was Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith, who was defending the changes. The interviewer then asked him if he could live on this amount. He replied: "If I had to, I would."

This petition calls on Iain Duncan Smith to live on this budget for at least one year. This would help realise the conservative party`s current mantra that "We are all in this together".

This would mean a 97% reduction in his current income, which is £1,581.02 a week or £225 a day after tax*.

eating the domestic staff is also banned.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The mega-rich don't feed you. You are a worm to them.

Last I checked, you need worms to fish.

 

[butters]

As long as he's not allowed to use the couple of grands' worth of food in his house or his ministerial car and has to pay the lecky and gas at prepay rates.

i still have my meters - after starting work a couple of years back, i tried to get new meters put in where i could pay that averaged monthly dual fuel thingy . . . lots of humming and ha-ing about having to move brackets and rebooking appointments and stuff and i STILL have them as we speak. this winter's cost me lots in gas. this summer i'm getting heavy on british gas' butt to sort me out because they've made too much money off me this year.

 

[hobbit.]

i still have my meters - after starting work a couple of years back, i tried to get new meters put in where i could pay that averaged monthly dual fuel thingy . . . lots of humming and ha-ing about having to move brackets and rebooking appointments and stuff and i STILL have them as we speak. this winter's cost me lots in gas. this summer i'm getting heavy on british gas' butt to sort me out because they've made too much money off me this year.

you see the bit you are missing is that we are all in this together. simply change you account name to 'Grant Shapps' and you will instantly have access to many allias which will all avoid paying tax, fees etc.

 

[Kitty_Schrödinger]

i still have my meters - after starting work a couple of years back, i tried to get new meters put in where i could pay that averaged monthly dual fuel thingy . . . lots of humming and ha-ing about having to move brackets and rebooking appointments and stuff and i STILL have them as we speak. this winter's cost me lots in gas. this summer i'm getting heavy on british gas' butt to sort me out because they've made too much money off me this year.

I've just paid my quarterly at 298.03 for gas and 117.30 for leccy.
Can't imagine paying this when living off benefits. Thanking fortune every day I have job to go to.

 

[hobbit.]

the point in the op was to highlight the tory/libdem lies. not to turn on each other.

if IDS can do it.. lets see it.

 

[Sean]

i still have my meters - after starting work a couple of years back, i tried to get new meters put in where i could pay that averaged monthly dual fuel thingy . . . lots of humming and ha-ing about having to move brackets and rebooking appointments and stuff and i STILL have them as we speak. this winter's cost me lots in gas. this summer i'm getting heavy on british gas' butt to sort me out because they've made too much money off me this year.

OK, go to B+Q and get an 18" length of flexible copper pipe, 22 mm dia. Also get two 1" iron to 22mm copper connectors. Screw one connector to each end of the pipe. Turn off your gas then unscrew the iron pipe from each side of the meter. Connect the two iron pipes with your pre-fabricated connector pipe. Voila.

 

[butters]

I've just paid my quarterly at 298.03 for gas and 117.30 for leccy.
Can't imagine paying this when living off benefits. Thanking fortune every day I have job to go to.

exactly - and that's what gets me so mad when they highlight the few who abuse the system and try to make it look as if everyone claiming benefits is a lazy scrounger who drinks, smokes, and has the latest phones. those who have either have other sources of income or are receiving illegitimate benefits.

 

[Kitty_Schrödinger]

OK, go to B+Q and get an 18" length of flexible copper pipe, 22 mm dia. Also get two 1" iron to 22mm copper connectors. Screw one connector to each end of the pipe. Turn off your gas then unscrew the iron pipe from each side of the meter. Connect the two iron pipes with your pre-fabricated connector pipe. Voila.

stop that, you turn me on with your techy nerdy talk.

 

[hobbit.]

OK, go to B+Q and get an 18" length of flexible copper pipe, 22 mm dia. Also get two 1" iron to 22mm copper connectors. Screw one connector to each end of the pipe. Turn off your gas then unscrew the iron pipe from each side of the meter. Connect the two iron pipes with your pre-fabricated connector pipe. Voila.

such social irresponsibility !

are you suggesting connecting copper directly to iron?

rubber hose works quite well if the pressure is kept low.

 

[Sean]

stop that, you turn me on with your techy nerdy talk.

That's not techy, that's squattery.

 

[hobbit.]

That's not techy, that's squattery.

it is also highly illegal. (just thought i'd mention that due to sky now monitoring my broadband usage)