Contraceptives and Casual Sex

[CelestialBody]

 

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[Calamity Jane]

Going through my notes, she claim human dignity is innate and that not only are we not animals -we are NOTHING like animals. WHy then is the method of family planning, rhythm method combined with temperature tests etc, what I hear when I talk to some of my friends when they're breeding their horses?

Not sure what you're looking for CB, I think I'm having a dense day today.

I think that a lot of problems in our society stem from the constant pressure to 'overcome' our nature. We're pushed to deny our animal side in the interests of fitting into society.

IMO, there's nothing 'wrong' with casual sex. We have physical needs, if we're honest about them and aren't hurting others, there shouldn't be a moral stigma attached to it.

 

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[Calamity Jane]

Maybe I should make myself clear, I'm stridently pro-choice, I'm a very big supporter of family planning, and that you should have children when you are emotionally and financially capable of managing-and that could mean taking advantage of WIC, or relying on your family, it's not an individual effort.

Me too. I'm a very firm believer in all of the above. I waited to have my kids until I knew I could support them. I haven't always done it alone, but I've known where to turn for help, and been humble enough to do so when it was in their best interests.

I guess I was just wondering what everyone's reaction was to all of this. I'm still puzzling over methods to refute the argument, the crux would be to pit modern political philosophy, which forms the backbone of our government, against Ancient, which is at the core of her argument, but beyond that I'm still musing.

It's interesting to me that the people who claim that we're 'better' than animals... that we're not like them at all... are the same people who think that we should only have sex for the purposes of procreation, that we shouldn't use contraceptives, etc.

Am I reading it right that the woman's stance was that casual sex is a result of contraceptives being available?

I do kind of agree that people having sex at younger ages is because they're looking for affection and closeness that they're not getting elsewhere. I also think part of the reason they think sex can give them that feeling of intimacy is that they hear so often... "Wait until you're in love to have sex." To a lot of kids, that statement translates pretty easily to "If he'll have sex with me, he must love me." A double edged sword?

 

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[Willing and Unsure]

i dont understand it. why are some people against others having a choice in their life? i mean seriously, if i want to take the pill for birth control than that's my business, not someone else's to tell me that i shouldnt take it. just like it isnt my business to go telling someone else that they shouldnt go buy condoms to help prevent diseases. granted, the pill doesnt prevent std's but it does help prevent other ones.

i dont really know what i'm saying.. just more of my mumbling today.