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[BrightShinyGirl]

So if Americans want to vote against Israel and for Palestine . . . how should we vote?

If you want to maximize innocent people dying, vote Trump. If you want to minimize innocent people dying vote Harris.

 

[coati]

If Vice President Harris wins, Israel will continue to receive the military support it has received under President Biden. She won’t bow to left-wing pressure to abandon our ally.

She will continue to put conditions on Netanyahu regarding his obstruction of humanitarian aid for war refugees, as will Biden before he leaves office.

 

[deckardB26354]

Elon Musk is running ads in Muslim areas claiming that Vice President Harris is pro-Israel. The hard left have accused her and Joe Biden of supporting genocide.

Elon Musk is also running ads in Jewish areas claiming that VP Harris supports Hamas. We’ve seen similar claims from conservative members on this message board.

I’m still convinced that Russia and Iran encouraged Hamas to attack on October 7th, 2023 to help Trump win the 2024 election. However Biden and Harris responded could be spun to Trump’s advantage.

Thanks for verifying that Musk is a piece of shit.

 

[ll74]

Israel launches retaliatory strikes in Iran

https://nypost.com/2024/10/25/world...t-iran-over-ballistic-missile-barrage-report/

 

[Noor]

It’s official.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849957541301666038

 

[Noor]

It’s official.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849957541301666038

After a brief lull, the second wave of attacks has begun.

 

[deckardB26354]

It’s official.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849957541301666038

Who’s next on the hit parade of Israel “defending itself”?

 

[ll74]

Who’s next on the hit parade of Israel “defending itself”?

Probably whoever attacks Israel next.

 

[Lazaran]

Who’s next on the hit parade of Israel “defending itself”?

Um, the next genocidal fuck that launches a 10/7 style attack or a rocket / missile barrage???

 

[ll74]

Um, the next genocidal fuck that launches a 10/7 style attack or a rocket / missile barrage???

 

[Noor]

third wave

 

[butters]

Israel bans UNRWA, the U.N. relief agency for Palestinian refugees

 

[deckardB26354]

Israel bans UNRWA, the U.N. relief agency for Palestinian refugees

What a shock.

Since they claim that the entire agency is Hamas—why wouldn’t they ban them?

Now they can get back to cleaning out Gaza, so they can start work on all of those beachfront condos.

 

[Politruk]

Netanyahu has long since moved himself into the category of those it is cool to wish death upon -- you know, like Putin, Xi, Kim Jong-un, Viktor Orban, etc.

 

[lessOHmo]

Famine in Gaza

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851252868772172220

 

[Lazaran]

Israel bans UNRWA, the U.N. relief agency for Palestinian refugees

Can we at least admit that something was / is going very wrong under UNRWA (UN) oversight in Gaza, etc???

 

[Politruk]

Can we at least admit that something was / is going very wrong under UNRWA (UN) oversight in Gaza, etc???

I've seen no actual evidence of UNRWA complicity in any terrorism.

 

[butters]

Can we at least admit that something was / is going very wrong under UNRWA (UN) oversight in Gaza, etc???

UNWRA accepts that 9 of their roughly 12,000 employees were directly involved in Oct. 7th's terrorism

 

[butters]

I've seen no actual evidence of UNRWA complicity in any terrorism.

there isn't... apart from the 9 identified. 9 out of 12,000 doesn't make UNWRA complicit, only that 9 people infiltrated (or were turned whilst inside) the system to aid and abet hamas.

this is clearly about attempting to delegitimize UNWRA further and drastically reduce aid to already starving/dying Palestinians... couple that with Israel's finance minister(?) who plans on collapsing Palestinians banks speaks volumes about Israel's intentions towards the non-hamas civilians in Gaza.

 

[Lazaran]

UNWRA accepts that 9 of their roughly 12,000 employees were directly involved in Oct. 7th's terrorism

I’m talking more about the terrorist infrastructure (Hamas, / Hezbollah terror tunnels, command posts, training facilities, weapons stashes, etc.) that were / are embedded / intertwined with UNWRA / UN facilities.



And, yes, only a small number of 10/7 terrorists who actively participated in the genocidal atrocities inside Israel could be positively identified as connected to UNRWA, but that means literally nothing. It would be nigh impossible to identify those in UNWRA who helped facilitate the 10/7 rape, torture, murder, and kidnapping operation, but who didn’t actively participate in the atrocities in Israel - not to mention, it is quite likely that not all the UNWRA employees who participated in the atrocities in Israel have been (or ever will be) identified.

UNRWA and the UN have failed in Gaza and Lebanon, and it is worth looking at other ways of providing aid to innocent Palestinians without providing aid and comfort to Hamas and Hezbollah.

JMTCW.

 

[butters]

I have ZERO excuses or sympathy for hamas... yes, they shoulder blame for the deaths of Palestinians... but don't any of you tell me that Israel isn't just as culpable in the deaths of innocent civilians after this latest attack on a building, murdering 93 people including at least 20 children

this was in a school, where people were sheltering

the IDF claims hamas operatives were below the school

they bombed it anyway. How is that 'making sure to minimize civilian casualties? They didn't give a flying fuck about the civilians, the babies... they were just throwaways in this war. THIS makes the IDF JUST as bad as hamas.

if anyone is defending this action, defending the indefensible, may your conscience forgive you.

 

[lessOHmo]

UNICEF

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851653648192811094

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, it's very very different.
Allies in World War 2 focused on defeating the Axis military, and to do so they had to cripple the industrial heart of the Axis powers, as well as destroying their transportation infrastructure. As far as humanly possible, they tried to minimize civilian casualties.

The Israeli military action appears to be to the opposite: maximize civilian casualties. They have been documented shooting aid workers, medical staff, and especially foreign journalists. They routinely bomb mosques, hospitals and refugee camps, under the blanket excuse of "well, we thought Hamas was hiding there".


Why should we "mustn't forget"? 9/11 happened, and that was 22 years ago.

The reason we got hit on 9-11 was because we had forgotten Pearl Harbor. When we forget about 9-11 and let our guard down we'll get hit again.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The reason we got hit on 9-11 was because we had forgotten Pearl Harbor. When we forget about 9-11 and let our guard down we'll get hit again.

It staggers the adult mind just how ignorant you are sometimes.
The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Extremist (Wahabbi) Saudi Arabians flew planes into the World Trade Center.
What Americans "forgot" (and which Israel will soon understand) is that Arabs carry a grudge for a very very long time.
Why were Arab extremists so angry?
Three major things

• Sanctions against Iraq
• The United States turning a blind eye to Israeli atrocities in Lebanon
• Prince Sultan Air Force Base.

The third item appears to have been the biggest. President George H.W. Bush used his friendship with aging dotard Saudi King ibn Saud to strongarm him into allowing US troops to be garrisoned in Saudi Arabia. Arabs as a whole hated that, and there were sporadic protests and attacks on US personnel. The US suggested moving their forces to the middle of nowhere (essentially the equivalent of "Idaho" in Saudi Arabia) and build the massive Prince Sultan AFB. The local yokels (think: "evangelical Idahoans") really despised this, blamed the US CIA and attempted to bomb the parking garage of the WTC in New York, believing (possibly correctly) that the CIA managed operations from there. In 2001, a complacent United States was introduced to the concept of massive terrorist attacks.

 

[Politruk]

Famine in Gaza

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851252868772172220

Not even you believe that's for real.