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[RandyRebecca]

What is Israel today was from 1517 to 1917 along with most of what is called the Middle East was controlled by the Ottoman Empire which was Islamic but not ruled by Arabs, or people called "Palestinians." After WWI came the Balfour Declaration and the British mandate over Palestine approved by the League of Nations in 1922. The British controlled Palestine until Israel became an independent country in 1947. What you say above is incorrect and unsupported by history.

Palestine's population after WW1 was about 10% Jewish, 80% Muslim and 10% Christian.

Even at the time just before Israel's founding in 1948, the Jewish population of Palestine was about 32%. Zionist terrorist militias then expelled over 700,000 of the 1.2 million Gentile (i.e. non-Jewish) Palestinians from their land, and started inviting Jews around the world to come to Israel and live there (for demographic purposes).

 

[Chobham]

Palestine's population after WW1 was about 10% Jewish, 80% Muslim and 10% Christian.

Even at the time just before Israel's founding in 1948, the Jewish population of Palestine was about 32%. Zionist terrorist militias then expelled over 700,000 of the 1.2 million Gentile (i.e. non-Jewish) Palestinians from their land, and started inviting Jews around the world to come to Israel and live there (for demographic purposes).

^^^Bullshit.

 

[RandyRebecca]

^^^Bullshit.

No. The truth. To the Zionists, the 1947 UN Partition Plan was just a small stepping stone in their ambitions, and the proposed borders of Israel and Palestine in the 1947 UN Partition Plan were discarded almost immediately when Israel was founded in 1948. Israel's rulers got a compliant King of Jordan (Abdullah I) to take over the West Bank (what Israel's rulers call "Judea and Samaria") until Israel was strong enough in the future to take it back (which they did in 1967). Abdullah I was assassinated in 1951 for his betrayal of the Palestinian cause during the 1948 Nakba.

To find the truth, don't just listen to CNN, Fox News etc. They do mass brainwashing techniques.

 

[RandyRebecca]

^^^Bullshit.

If you're interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

 

[Chobham]

If you're interested:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight

Yes, I know of all that. Snippets of history without context. It actually started about 1884 with Theodore Herzl. The links you posted make no mention in Egypt's and Jordan's role in this play.

Yes, the so called Palestinians, are victims. But they're victims of their fellow Arabs, and now the Persians, being used as proxies in a war they can't win. Cannon fodder. And you, like their instigators, are not seeking a solution, just retribution, a cycle that will lead to even more violence and death.

So get down with the cause. Buy a ticket to Cairo and sneak into the Gaza. Be a 'cum dump' to perpetuate the cycle. If you can't afford the fare, let me know, I'll start a "Go Fund Me' account for you.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yes, the so called Palestinians, are victims. But they're victims of their fellow Arabs, and now the Persians, being used as proxies in a war they can't win. Cannon fodder. And you, like their instigators, are not seeking a solution, just retribution, a cycle that will lead to even more violence and death.

I've said the solution. An end to the Zionist project, and all the peoples there, of all religions and none, learning to live together in Palestine. That's the only solution there is, unless you prefer ethnic cleansing and/or genocide, or another Nakba.

And Hezbollah have been anything but "cannon fodder" when they've gone up against Israel in war in the past. They've defeated Israel in war, and more than once. Israel right now fears fighting on multiple fronts at the same time, and Biden's foreign policy has been so disastrous that he has the US fighting on multiple war fronts, and planning another (China), splashing billions and billions of our taxpayer dollars on his warmongering.

 

[Chobham]

I've said the solution. An end to the Zionist project, and all the peoples there, of all religions and none, learning to live together in Palestine. That's the only solution there is, unless you prefer ethnic cleansing and/or genocide, or another Nakba.

And Hezbollah have been anything but "cannon fodder" when they've gone up against Israel in war in the past. They've defeated Israel in war, and more than once. Israel right now fears fighting on multiple fronts at the same time, and Biden's foreign policy has been so disastrous that he has the US fighting on multiple war fronts, and planning another (China), splashing billions and billions of our taxpayer dollars on his warmongering.

Read the Hamas charter, read the PLO charter. And then get back to me as to who doesn't want to live with who.

 

[ll74]

But it won't, at least not on any capitalist basis. The Zionist project was about a "Jewish state" and taking over all of Palestine in time, including making life so miserable for the Palestinians that they are forced into exile, and also invited all foreign Jews to move to Israel and set up home there (for demographic purposes). Even with the latter, Palestinian families still have more children than Israelis, so this further worries Israel's rulers who want to further the Zionist project.

How many people have died in Gaza now since October 7? Well over 11,000 in about 6 weeks (with another 3,000 or so missing), about half of the dead being children, the bombings of hospitals, schools, refugee camps, ambulances etc. On top of that, depriving the Gaza population of food, water and energy, and making sleep very difficult at any time. The Democrats turn a blind eye to all this, and pretend that they are the "good guys".

As for a two-state solution, Israel (with US administrations' support) have killed it in the last 20 years by, I repeat, turning Gaza into a ghetto since 2005, and stealing more and more West Bank land with their Israeli settlements. Israel, and the US administrations who support them, have made a one-state solution the only possibility, and they want ethnic cleansing and/or genocide.

So if a two state solution led to your solution over time, you wouldn't agree with it. Thanks for confirming.

There was only that question, and instead of answering it, you gave me another tirade against Israel.

 

[Dribble]

CNN analysis indicates weaponry shown to media in the hospital was either moved or placed there.

Called it. Again.

 

[ll74]

CNN analysis indicates weaponry shown to media in the hospital was either moved or placed there.

Called it. Again.

Called what? You citing another source and not providing it? That's common

 

[Rightguide]

Daddy’s little college girl lol

Daddy’s Girl​

A man was telling his buddy over coffee, "You won't believe what happened last night. My daughter walked into the living room and said, "Dad, do not pay off my college tuition loan, cancel my allowance, throw away all my clothes and take my iPhone and laptop. In addition, please take all of my jewelry to the Salvation Army. Then, sell my car, take my front door key away from me and lock me out of your house. Then, disown me and never talk to me again. And don't forget to write me out of your will and leave my share to anyone you choose."

"Holy Smokes", replied the friend, "She actually said that?”

The father replied, "Well, she didn't actually put it quite like that.

I'm paraphrasing a little.

"What she actually said was, Dad, meet my new boyfriend, Mohammed. We're going to work together on Biden's 2024 re-election campaign."

Ahahaha.

 

[Rightguide]

Read the Hamas charter, read the PLO charter. And then get back to me as to who doesn't want to live with who.

In fact, I think it was Yasser Arafat who invented the term "Palestinian" and brought it into the mainstream.

 

[ll74]

In fact, I think it was Yasser Arafat who invented the term "Palestinian" and brought it into the mainstream.

Lol......no

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine

 

[Dribble]

Called what? You citing another source and not providing it? That's common

Front page of all media sources. Not my problem you don't get your news from reliable sources

Don't you love the new video of all those dead women and children after the IDF attacked that UN run school?

 

[CenSore]

Front page of all media sources. Not my problem you don't get your news from reliable sources

Don't you love the new video of all those dead women and children after the IDF attacked that UN run school?

INCLUSION!


if only men were "killed" ypu would scream where is the INCLUSION

well

here you have it

 

[CenSore]

2 State Solution

Three in Four PA Arabs Support Hamas’s Massacre​

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/ey...-pa-arabs-support-hamass-massacre/2023/11/18/

 

[RobDownSouth]

The whackadoodle right is reduced to arguing over who created the word 'palestinian'?

 

[RachelWalsh]

This war sucks, but they all kinda do.

 

[ll74]

Front page of all media sources. Not my problem you don't get your news from reliable sources

Yes, you can't copy and paste and blame me.

It is never about where I get my news from...it's about your providing me with where you get yours from. I already provide my sources so you can see.

 

[ll74]

2 State Solution

Three in Four PA Arabs Support Hamas’s Massacre​

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/ey...-pa-arabs-support-hamass-massacre/2023/11/18/

I'm sure that's a reliable poll

 

[RandyRebecca]

Read the Hamas charter, read the PLO charter. And then get back to me as to who doesn't want to live with who.

The PLO comes from Fatah, which later became the "Palestinian Authority" collaborators. Fatah are the largest faction in the PLO.

So I'm supposed to see nuclear armed (unofficially, but the truth is obvious) Israel as the victims, and Hamas where Palestinians don't even have any sovereign state as the genocidal oppressors? This turns reality on its head.

In just a few weeks in Gaza after October 7, Israel killed thousands more Palestinian civilians than Russia have killed Ukrainian civilians since February 2022. What does that tell us? The Biden administration, and the compliant US media, truly insults our intelligence. They think the American public are stupid.

 

[RandyRebecca]

In fact, I think it was Yasser Arafat who invented the term "Palestinian" and brought it into the mainstream.

Below is a map from the 1946 National Geographic:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdOP7AhXUAEFp6J?format=jpg&name=360x360

Around this time, the religious demographics of Palestine were about 60% Muslim, 31% Jewish, 8% Christian and 1% Other, out of a population of around 1.8 million people. From 1947-1949, over 700,000 Gentile (i.e. non-Jewish) Palestinians were expelled from their lands. That's over 700,000 out of around 1.2 million people.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The whackadoodle right is reduced to arguing over who created the word 'palestinian'?

wrongway does, what he's best at....showing off how stupid he really is....

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The United States has brokered a tentative ceasefire between Israel and Hamas in exchange for the release of some of the hostages taken on October 7th.

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-773984

 

[CenSore]

I'm sure that's a reliable poll

but the one you posted from a decade ago was!