Climate continues to change.

[Conager]

Neither of you have done your homework. Turn off the fake news and start looking up the real science for yourselves.

You're in no position to talk about homework it's been about 4 or 5 years since I explained to you the importance of being able to actually read a graph understand what's being done with the legend and most importantly understand the role that significant figures plays in determining the accuracy of your results. You still don't understand it and I've explained it to you and Link's you to resources where you can learn math.

 

[Kantarii]

I already don't watch CNN, at least not often.

I long for the day CNN goes outta business, but there’s a market for selling BS recycled news, I suppose.

https://youtu.be/WH5DUtOLC7A

 

[phrodeau]

You're in no position to talk about homework it's been about 4 or 5 years since I explained to you the importance of being able to actually read a graph understand what's being done with the legend and most importantly understand the role that significant figures plays in determining the accuracy of your results. You still don't understand it and I've explained it to you and Link's you to resources where you can learn math.

Oh yeah, that was a hoot. Can you find it? I’d love to read it again.

 

[phrodeau]

I wonder if President Trump is in DC today, and notices that it’s October and the thermometer says it’s 83 degrees. I wonder if he’s heard that there’s a coastal flooding warning in the DC area today.

Tomorrow’s high is forecast at 95 degrees.

 

[gunthernehmen]

I wonder if President Trump is in DC today, and notices that it’s October and the thermometer says it’s 83 degrees. I wonder if he’s heard that there’s a coastal flooding warning in the DC area today.

Tomorrow’s high is forecast at 95 degrees.

He checked with Barack and was told no problem with the flooding

 

[Wrong Element]

Warmest October day in the history of me hometown.


Nothing to see here!

 

[gunthernehmen]

Warmest October day in the history of me hometown.


Nothing to see here!

Possibly (although unlikely).

But definitely not the hottest October day ever for the physical location of your town. And the coldest day ever for your homework is not the coldest day ever for the location, either.

 

[InsightRiot]

Michael Mann (whose falsified "hockey stick" graph underpins both Phrodeau's religion and the bulk of his arguments here) has been ordered by the Supreme Court of British Columbia to pay all of Dr Tim Bell's attorney fees as Mann slinks away from the libel suit that he had filed.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/3c2f34e2d38e292ce44f3f99cecade23/tenor.gif?itemid=11353836

I wanted to make sure the Michael Mann story was posted here. He lost because he wouldn't turn over the data he used to make the graph. What a fraud.

Creator Of Global-Warming's Infamous "Hockey Stick" Chart Loses 'Climate-Science' Lawsuit

Someone add climate change to the Replication Crisis list!

$science is all about $publish or perish$ now, not truth.

Time to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

 

[OldJourno]

I wonder if President Trump is in DC today, and notices that it’s October and the thermometer says it’s 83 degrees. I wonder if he’s heard that there’s a coastal flooding warning in the DC area today.

Tomorrow’s high is forecast at 95 degrees.

Blizzard in the Rockies. It's called weather, or maybe the world isn't burning up after all.

 

[phrodeau]

Blizzard in the Rockies. It's called weather, or maybe the world isn't burning up after all.

The jet stream over North America has shifted.

It’s not a well-understood phenomenon because it hadn’t been shifting as much in the past as it is now.

 

[phrodeau]

I wanted to make sure the Michael Mann story was posted here. He lost because he wouldn't turn over the data he used to make the graph. What a fraud.

Creator Of Global-Warming's Infamous "Hockey Stick" Chart Loses 'Climate-Science' Lawsuit

Someone add climate change to the Replication Crisis list!

$science is all about $publish or perish$ now, not truth.

Time to (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Gee, thanks for the detailed account of that lawsuit. It makes clear that the suit had nothing at all to do with climate change or the accuracy of Mann’s data.

 

[gunthernehmen]

The jet stream over North America has shifted.

It’s not a well-understood phenomenon because it hadn’t been shifting as much in the past as it is now.

Not well understood?

I thought the priests of the Holy Order of Climate Change understood all there is to know about climate and weather?

 

[phrodeau]

Not well understood?

I thought the priests of the Holy Order of Climate Change understood all there is to know about climate and weather?

And you are wrong. Again.

 

[gunthernehmen]

And you are wrong. Again.

Hey now, I was AGREEING with you for once! Why the hostility?

Ok, maybe the priest part was a low blow but clearly nobody in climate "change" sciences has the slightest clue about the subject. At least we agree on that.

 

[trysail]

“In climate research and modelling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”

-Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change ("IPCC")
(Chapter 14, Section 14.2.2.2. )​

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[trysail]

Michael "Piltdown" Mann Loses Libel Lawsuit:
Must Pay Court Costs

“Michael Mann should be in the State Pen, not Penn State.”

-Tim Ball, Ph.D.
​

​

"...The story of Ball’s vindication, and of Mann’s shame, is a somewhat long one, and turns on Mann’s flat refusal to share publicly the data and methodology by which he constructed the Hockey Stick graph. In about 2003 a very talented Canadian mathematician named Steve McIntyre began an effort to replicate the Mann/Bradley/Hughes work. McIntyre started with a request to Mann to provide the underlying data and methodologies (computer programming) that generated the graph. To his surprise, McIntyre was met not with prompt compliance (which would be the sine qua non of actual science) but rather with hostility and evasion. McIntyre started a blog called Climate Audit and began writing lengthy posts about his extensive and unsuccessful efforts to reconstruct the Hockey Stick. Although McIntyre never completely succeeded in perfectly reconstructing the Hockey Stick, over time he gradually established that Mann et al. had adopted a complex methodology that selectively emphasized certain temperature proxies over others in order to reverse-engineer the "shaft" of the stick to get a pre-determined desired outcome.

Then came the so-called ClimateGate disclosures in 2009. These were emails between and among many of the main promoters of the climate scare (dubbed by McIntyre the "Hockey Team"). Included in the Climategate releases were emails relating specifically to the methodology of how the graph was created. From the emails, skeptical researchers were then able to identify some of the precise data series that had been used by Mann et al. Astoundingly, they discovered that the graph's creators had truncated inconvenient data in order to get the desired depiction..."


https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/503a5bade4b0b543ed240317/1566859538224-SLNNMB36B2VFP8YCE80R/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kOnm-bYH_DG0w7yQQWN0zGZZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpwHeqIuLgmA32vLVBxdAgjkW4XNdvkNRVBvx41rMc5cvaI_iCaqZRjwIe7I1NiGGgg/Hide+the+Decline+graph.png?format=750w




(lots) more...


A fabrication; a clear case of scientific fraud (brought to you by Michael "Piltdown" Mann):

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/503a5bade4b0b543ed240317/1566856695655-LIEKYSL2I9QS9MTBXBTX/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kKB9UHg98lZaSTVBRCBcWvNZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpyLfbX1PIdsbHvQOEkiG3s_8q58M0XU8gGWpUuVPEkLaG6CqxT4NN4tN_dWbV_FOdI/Manns-hockey-stick.gif?format=750w


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[gunthernehmen]

Michael "Piltdown" Mann Loses Libel Lawsuit:
Must Pay Court Costs

“Michael Mann should be in the State Pen, not Penn State.”

-Tim Ball, Ph.D.
​

​

"...The story of Ball’s vindication, and of Mann’s shame, is a somewhat long one, and turns on Mann’s flat refusal to share publicly the data and methodology by which he constructed the Hockey Stick graph. In about 2003 a very talented Canadian mathematician named Steve McIntyre began an effort to replicate the Mann/Bradley/Hughes work. McIntyre started with a request to Mann to provide the underlying data and methodologies (computer programming) that generated the graph. To his surprise, McIntyre was met not with prompt compliance (which would be the sine qua non of actual science) but rather with hostility and evasion. McIntyre started a blog called Climate Audit and began writing lengthy posts about his extensive and unsuccessful efforts to reconstruct the Hockey Stick. Although McIntyre never completely succeeded in perfectly reconstructing the Hockey Stick, over time he gradually established that Mann et al. had adopted a complex methodology that selectively emphasized certain temperature proxies over others in order to reverse-engineer the "shaft" of the stick to get a pre-determined desired outcome.

Then came the so-called ClimateGate disclosures in 2009. These were emails between and among many of the main promoters of the climate scare (dubbed by McIntyre the "Hockey Team"). Included in the Climategate releases were emails relating specifically to the methodology of how the graph was created. From the emails, skeptical researchers were then able to identify some of the precise data series that had been used by Mann et al. Astoundingly, they discovered that the graph's creators had truncated inconvenient data in order to get the desired depiction..."


https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/503a5bade4b0b543ed240317/1566859538224-SLNNMB36B2VFP8YCE80R/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kOnm-bYH_DG0w7yQQWN0zGZZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpwHeqIuLgmA32vLVBxdAgjkW4XNdvkNRVBvx41rMc5cvaI_iCaqZRjwIe7I1NiGGgg/Hide+the+Decline+graph.png?format=750w




(lots) more...


A fabrication; a clear case of scientific fraud (brought to you by Michael "Piltdown" Mann):

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/503a5bade4b0b543ed240317/1566856695655-LIEKYSL2I9QS9MTBXBTX/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kKB9UHg98lZaSTVBRCBcWvNZw-zPPgdn4jUwVcJE1ZvWQUxwkmyExglNqGp0IvTJZUJFbgE-7XRK3dMEBRBhUpyLfbX1PIdsbHvQOEkiG3s_8q58M0XU8gGWpUuVPEkLaG6CqxT4NN4tN_dWbV_FOdI/Manns-hockey-stick.gif?format=750w


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I don't understand.

What possible motive could there be for someone to create fake proof that we're all going to die?

How do you profit from that?

 

[LesDesirable]

What possible notice could there be for someone to create fake proof that we're all going to die?
How do you profit from that?

Let's say that financial firm A has 30 billion worth of Exxon-Mobile Stock.

Firm B (run by the climate change guru) decided to short Exxon and contracts with A and sells the 30 billion.

Firm B then (because in-the-know) watches Exxon-Mobile drop to 60%, whence they pay back firm A with 20 billion, pocketing 10 billion, of which they pass $100 million on to the Foundation for Global Climate Change Research.

***

Or perhaps, a politician threatens to ban all US production of oil and gas - while at the same time buying oil and gas futures contracts through emails on a secret and hidden server.

Profit is made by market fluctuations of less than 1%.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Let's say that financial firm A has 30 billion worth of Exxon-Mobile Stock.

Firm B (run by the climate change guru) decided to short Exxon and contracts with A and sells the 30 billion.

Firm B then (because in-the-know) watches Exxon-Mobile drop to 60%, whence they pay back firm A with 20 billion, pocketing 10 billion, of which they pass $100 million on to the Foundation for Global Climate Change Research.

***

Or perhaps, a politician threatens to ban all US production of oil and gas - while at the same time buying oil and gas futures contracts through emails on a secret and hidden server.

Profit is made by market fluctuations of less than 1%.

I was actually kidding but hadn't thought of the market. I figured much like the Y2K scare (another hoax perpetrated on us to generate tremendous profits) the scammers use campaigns to raise donations or sell "carbon credits" or pass laws to benefit themselves/friends.

You know. The USUAL corruption we find in all aspects and both ends of the political spectrum.

 

[phrodeau]

The “very talented Canadian mathematician named Steve McIntyre” is actually a blogger who works for an oil company.

http://www.realclimate.org/docs/thacker/wsj.pdf

 

[trysail]

Steve McIntyre's work speaks for itself:

https://climateaudit.org/multiproxy-pdfs/


If in doubt, go to the source.



McIntyre's provision of data and methodology stands in stark contrast to Michael "Piltdown" Mann's refusal to provide the same.

Beyond that, Michael "Piltdown" Mann's repeated and continuing attempts to silence criticism, corroboration and verification of his "Hockey Stick" through protracted litigation speaks volumes.


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[von_Bismarck]

trybigot is like those young Earth creationists who think linking to just any website grants legitimacy. Find a website that's consonant with one's financial interests, then invent some reason(s) why that source is more trustworthy.

 

[trysail]

“In climate research and modelling, we should recognize that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”

-Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change ("IPCC")
(Chapter 14, Section 14.2.2.2. )​

​

 

[gunthernehmen]

trybigot is like those young Earth creationists who think linking to just any website grants legitimacy. Find a website that's consonant with one's financial interests, then invent some reason(s) why that source is more trustworthy.

EXACTLY! That's exactly the strategy of the climate scammers.

 

[phrodeau]

EXACTLY! That's exactly the strategy of the climate scammers.

Where?