Climate continues to change.

[Disgustipated]

Al Gore couldn't make a movie about it if it weren't the truth.

*2* Movies. And a Vice Presidency.

 

[Nipples_Mcgee1]

Government Report Finds Drastic Impact of Climate Change on U.S.

WASHINGTON — The average temperature in the United States has risen rapidly and drastically since 1980, and recent decades have been the warmest of the past 1,500 years, according to a sweeping federal climate change report awaiting approval by the Trump administration.

The draft report by scientists from 13 federal agencies, which has not yet been made public, concludes that Americans are feeling the effects of climate change right now. It directly contradicts claims by President Trump and members of his cabinet who say that the human contribution to climate change is uncertain, and that the ability to predict the effects is limited.

“Evidence for a changing climate abounds, from the top of the atmosphere to the depths of the oceans,” a draft of the report states. A copy of it was obtained by The New York Times.

The authors note that thousands of studies, conducted by tens of thousands of scientists, have documented climate changes on land and in the air. “Many lines of evidence demonstrate that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse (heat-trapping) gases, are primarily responsible for recent observed climate change,” they wrote.

 

[trysail]

Richard Lindzen makes Bill Nye look like a blithering idiot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrUaD86XRw&feature=youtu.be



If I were Nye, I'd be embarrassed to show my face in public after this display of ignorance.

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[phrodeau]

Richard Lindzen makes Bill Nye look like a blithering idiot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrUaD86XRw&feature=youtu.be



If I were Nye, I'd be embarrassed to show my face in public after this display of ignorance.

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If I were Lindzen, I would plan to have a lot more to say on the topic than "his claims about ocean heat transfer and the gulf stream are wrong," like maybe provide some evidence that the current global temperature trend is in any way normal or usual. You know, something within his actual field of expertise.

 

[phrodeau]

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40669449

Among the key provisions of the Paris climate deal, signed by 195 countries in December 2015, is the requirement that every country, rich or poor, has to submit an inventory of its greenhouse-gas emissions every two years. Under UN rules, most countries produce "bottom-up" records, based on how many car journeys are made or how much energy is used for heating homes and offices. But air-sampling programmes that record actual levels of gases, such as those run by the UK and Switzerland, sometimes reveal errors and omissions.

In 2011, Swiss scientists first published their data on levels of a gas called HFC-23 coming from a location in northern Italy. Between 2008 and 2010, they had recorded samples of the chemical, produced in the refrigeration and air conditioning industries, which is 14,800 times more warming to the atmosphere than CO2. Now the scientists, at the Jungfraujoch Swiss air monitoring station, have told the BBC the gas is still going into the atmosphere.

"Our estimate for this location in Italy is about 60-80 tonnes of this substance being emitted every year. Then we can compare this with the Italian emission inventory, and that is quite interesting because the official inventory says below 10 tonnes or in the region of two to three tonnes," said Dr Stefan Reimann, from the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology.

The Italian environment agency told the BBC its inventory was correct and complied with UN regulations and it did not accept the Swiss figures.

Another rare warming gas, carbon tetrachloride, once popular as a refrigerant and a solvent but very damaging to the ozone layer, has been banned in Europe since 2002.

But Dr Reimann told Counting Carbon: "We still see 10,000-20,000 tonnes coming out of China every year. That is something that shouldn't be there. There is actually no Chinese inventory for these gases, as they are banned and industry shouldn't be releasing them anymore."

Back in 2007, China simply refused to accept, in official documents, that it had become the largest emitter of CO2.

"I was working in China in 2007," said Dr Angel Hsu, from Yale University. "I would include a citation and statistics that made this claim of China's position as the number one emitter - these were just stricken out, and I was told the Chinese government doesn't yet recognise this particular statistic so we are not going to include it."

A report in 2015 suggested one error in China's statistics amounted to 10% of global emissions in 2013.

The rules covering how countries report their emissions are currently being negotiated. But Prof Glen Peters, from the Centre for International Climate Research, in Oslo, said: "The core part of Paris [is] the global stock-takes which are going to happen every five years, and after the stock-takes countriesare meant to raise their ambition, but if you can't track progress sufficiently, which is the whole point of these stock-takes, you basically can't do anything. So, without good data as a basis, Paris essentially collapses. It just becomes a talkfest without much progress."

Well, it's a good thing America isn't part of the Paris Accord. We'd never be able to get honest answers from our current administration either.

 

[thør]

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40669449

Well, it's a good thing America isn't part of the Paris Accord. We'd never be able to get honest answers from our current administration either.

But, the USA is a part of the Paris Climate Accord until Nov. 4, 2020 (which is one day after the next presidential election). And the US will attend alll meetings up until them.

 

[thør]

*2* Movies. And a Vice Presidency.

What the fuck does that matter?

 

[phrodeau]

But, the USA is a part of the Paris Climate Accord until Nov. 4, 2020 (which is one day after the next presidential election). And the US will attend alll meetings up until them.

Oh, good. One more thing for Trump to tell lies about.

 

[trysail]

That's a damned interesting comment by "Old Englander":

Read the whole thing at:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08...-concerning-climate-hysteria/#comment-2574771

...So the risk of skeptics actually dying off is a point well made – any profession needs to look after the younger generation, but there isn’t one in climatology, where the younger generation have joined a political party, not a profession.

This is a challenge to the whole scientific profession, in whatever field; in fact the more outsiders who ask obvious questions like: “what is the empirical evidence that anthropogenic CO2 is the leading causative mechanism for dangerous global warming”, the better. Wait for your reply (if you get one) and let us know the answers. Current strategy seems to be to ignore the question, but slowly people wake up to the fact that no answers are being given...​

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[phrodeau]

That's a damned interesting comment by "Old Englander":

Read the whole thing at:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08...-concerning-climate-hysteria/#comment-2574771

...So the risk of skeptics actually dying off is a point well made – any profession needs to look after the younger generation, but there isn’t one in climatology, where the younger generation have joined a political party, not a profession.

This is a challenge to the whole scientific profession, in whatever field; in fact the more outsiders who ask obvious questions like: “what is the empirical evidence that anthropogenic CO2 is the leading causative mechanism for dangerous global warming”, the better. Wait for your reply (if you get one) and let us know the answers. Current strategy seems to be to ignore the question, but slowly people wake up to the fact that no answers are being given...​

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Don't have any answers? Look them up.

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

I'm sorry if this is challenging to you.

 

[Disgustipated]

What the fuck does that matter?

That he knows far more than miles on the matter. Thought that was fairly evident.

 

[trysail]

So What Happened To The Science ?

An absolutely superb summary— one of the best I've ever seen— written in clear, concise English by a "physics graduate."

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/10/so-what-happened-to-the-science/

...Initially, politicians evaded the falsifiability problem by invoking the precautionary principle, in which the plausibility of an idea is sufficient for it to be treated as if it were confirmed. So, in climatology not only was the falsification of ideas technically difficult, it wasn’t even deemed necessary. But this was an overtly political position to take: If deferring a decision until all uncertainty is removed carries an existential risk, then there is political wisdom in not doing so. Nonetheless, the precautionary principle is notorious for being a self-defeating logic. When the price for taking action is potentially catastrophic (as it may be when one considers the drastic actions proposed by the CAGW protagonists), then the precautionary principle can also be invoked to argue against taking such action. Uncertainty cuts both ways, and perhaps this is why the denial of uncertainty seems to have usurped the precautionary principle as the favoured policy in many people’s minds.

Down on the Mississippi, Mark Twain understood better than most just how easy it is to get carried away with conjecture when the evidence is sparse, but I doubt that even he fully appreciated just how easily such conjecture can mysteriously transform into fact as the stakes get higher. It doesn’t require artifice to achieve this, though it is surprising what some advocates will resort to in order to ensure that the ‘righteous’ side of the argument wins. If it were up to me, however, I’d accept the uncertainties and invoke the dreaded precautionary principle. Although far from ideal, this is a better option than downplaying uncertainties to the extent that having an open mind in the face of a questionable consensus is taken as a sign of criminal stupidity. After all, scepticism used to be the compass for the scientific mind. So I ask once again: What happened to the science?



https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/10/so-what-happened-to-the-science/


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[phrodeau]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...s-for-global-temperature-and-climate-extremes

The year 2016 was the warmest on record for the planet as a whole, surpassing temperature records that date back 137 years, according to an annual report compiled by scientists around the globe.

According to the annual, peer-reviewed State of the Climate report, it was also a year of other extremes and records, including the highest sea levels and lowest sea ice in the Arctic and Antarctica. And, it was one of the worst years for droughts.

The 299-report, published by the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, relies on the work of hundreds of scientists in 60 countries. It shows that 2016 was "very extreme and it is a cause for concern," says NOAA climate scientist Jessica Blunden, a co-editor of the report.

"The annual increases in methane and nitrous oxide were pretty much in line with their decadal trends, but the rise in global carbon dioxide of 3.5 [parts per million] was the largest year-over-year increase observed in the 58-year measurement record," Blunden said. "This brought the global average carbon dioxide concentration for 2016 to 402.9 ppm," surpassing 400 ppm for the first time in modern records or ice core records that go back nearly 800,000 years, she said.

 

[thør]

"I don't know if it's climate change or not, but I do know the river is eroding and we have to move, because if we don't move, we're going to lose homes."

- Andrew John, Newtok Tribal Administrator.

$300M to move 400 people

 

[Shagly]

Let those polar ice caps melt, it's called evolution.

 

[Hypoxia]

Let those polar ice caps melt, it's called evolution.

How long can you tread water?

 

[Shagly]

How long can you tread water?

As long as the boat has fuel while I am on water skis.

 

[Hypoxia]

As long as the boat has fuel while I am on water skis.

So about twenty minutes then. Noted.

 

[trysail]

"Climate $cience" remains a near-perfect example of pseudoscience. The data are so bad that it makes an intelligent observer laugh at the solemn pronouncements of the high priests and credulous sycophants.

...because of latitudinal (temperate zone) and altitudinal (lapse rate) differences, a global average temp[erature] is meaningless. OTH, a global average stationary station anomaly (correctly calculated) is meaningful, especially for climate trends. So useful if the stations are reliable (most aren’t),

On the other hand, useful anomalies hide a multitude of other climate sins. Not the least of which is the gross difference between absolute and ‘anomaly’ discrepancies in the CMIP5 archive of the most recent AR5 climate models. They get 0C wrong by +/-3 C! So CMIP5 not at all useful...​

-Rud Istvan
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/08/19/climate-science-double-speak-update/#comment-2585739
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[trysail]

...If this science is really settled, then tell us about:

• Climate models and predicted warming.
• The magnitude of sulfur dioxide cooling in relation to carbon dioxide warming for the net effect.
• The feedback effects of clouds to enhanced warming.
• The relative strength of natural variability versus the enhanced greenhouse effect.
• Sea level rise fifty or one hundred years ago versus today.
• The likelihood of a (moderated) future Ice Age or Little Ice Age in light of the enhanced greenhouse effect.

And this is just the physical science. There are many other questions... to explore the unsettled science that is there...

-Robert Bradley, Jr.​

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[Hypoxia]

It's midsummer here in the central Sierra Nevada range south of Lake Tahoe.

Yesterday were thunderstorms, intense rain, hail, flooding, lotsa wet shit.

Therefore global warming is a hoax because the high was 85f not 95f.

Put that in the log book.

 

[thør]

Dear Researchers,


I am looking for an available and fully funded PhD position.

PhD Topic: “Impact of glaciers melting on increase in earthquakes”


I've done my Master of Philosophy in Geophysics from the top ranked university of Pakistan Quaid-I-Azam University, Islamabad and Bachelors Hons. in Earth Sciences. I also have published three papers aswell and now have relevant field work experience of 3 years. My plan to do research is on the topic of “Impact of glaciers melting on increase in earthquakes”. Basically this research will be based on integration of geophysical data, remote sensing data and seismological data to complete the desired task. In my bachelor of earth sciences and master of philosophy degree of geophysics I performed many projects in my course work related to remote sensing, structural geology and earthquake studies. Now being a part of National Space Agency for past 3 years my duty here is to research about the remote sensing applications in geosciences field especially in the field of earthquakes, lithological mapping, glacier study and etc. Hence I believe I have a good research background related to my topic.


PhD proposal, my CV, IELTS result and all relevant documents are ready to be sent to an interested PhD advisor.


Please contact me directly:

Bilal Aslam

 

[phrodeau]

...If this science is really settled, then tell us about:

• Climate models and predicted warming.
• The magnitude of sulfur dioxide cooling in relation to carbon dioxide warming for the net effect.
• The feedback effects of clouds to enhanced warming.
• The relative strength of natural variability versus the enhanced greenhouse effect.
• Sea level rise fifty or one hundred years ago versus today.
• The likelihood of a (moderated) future Ice Age or Little Ice Age in light of the enhanced greenhouse effect.

And this is just the physical science. There are many other questions... to explore the unsettled science that is there...

-Robert Bradley, Jr.​

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Ah hah. You can't claim that SO2 causes cooling without acknowledging that CO2 causes warming. "And this is just the physical science" indeed.

 

[richard_daily]

Ah hah. You can't claim that SO2 causes cooling without acknowledging that CO2 causes warming. "And this is just the physical science" indeed.

Try Fail strikes again.

 

[trysail]

Note the dramatic acceleration of sea level rise:




http://sealevel.info/8771450_Galveston_Pier_21_2017-07-18_noaa.png


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