Climate continues to change.

[Conager]

No, it was based on field observations.

He observed negros and gorillas in the field? I didn't think they had either on the Gallapagoes.

 

[KingOrfeo]

He observed negros and gorillas in the field? I didn't think they had either on the Gallapagoes.

He deduced the theory of evolution from observing animals, before extending it to humans.

 

[Conager]

Because it's not 'Murica. Fuck YEAH!

Genocidal racist!

 

[trysail]

"National and international science academies and scientific societies have assessed current scientific opinion on global warming. These assessments are generally consistent with the conclusions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The IPCC Fourth Assessment Report stated that:"

The links to those scientific bodies were all there.

“The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible”

-Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (the "IPCC")
Third Assessment Report​

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[Conager]

He deduced the theory from Galapagos life-forms before extending it to humans.

So when he extended it to humans, and drew parallels betwern negros and gorillas it was not, as, you previously claimed, <direct quote> "based on field observations."

Why did you feel the need to utter thst falsehood, counselor?

 

[trysail]

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth:

...Those compiling the global averaged surface air temperature record have not only ignored systematic measurement error, but have even neglected the detection limits of the instruments themselves. Since at least 1860, thermometer accuracy has been magicked out of thin air. Also since then, and at the 95% confidence interval, the rate or magnitude of the global rise in surface air temperature is unknowable. Current arguments about air temperature and its unprecedentedness are speculative theology...

-Pat Frank, Ph.D.​

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[Disgustipated]

Genocidal racist!

I'll make #45's cabinet, bitches!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth:

...Those compiling the global averaged surface air temperature record have not only ignored systematic measurement error, but have even neglected the detection limits of the instruments themselves. Since at least 1860, thermometer accuracy has been magicked out of thin air. Also since then, and at the 95% confidence interval, the rate or magnitude of the global rise in surface air temperature is unknowable. Current arguments about air temperature and its unprecedentedness are speculative theology...

-Pat Frank, Ph.D.​

​

If you're going to copy & paste you need to provide a link.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04...surements-the-surface-air-temperature-record/

 

[Conager]

“The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible”

-Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (the "IPCC")
Third Assessment Report​

​

Nonsense. The high priests of Phrodeau's religion can easily divine these things by observing anecdotal weather reports, scanning for localized "record" highs, and extrapolating from there under the watchful guidence of Gaia.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So when he extended it to humans, and drew parallels betwern negros and gorillas it was not, as, you previously claimed, <direct quote> "based on field observations."

Why did you feel the need to utter thst falsehood, counselor?

It is not a falsehood, I was referring to the theory of evolution as such. It is not based on racism. It is liable to racist misapplications.

 

[Conager]

If you're going to copy & paste you need to provide a link.


https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/04...surements-the-surface-air-temperature-record/

No you don't.

You do realize articles, books, and other works were annotated and bibliographies were provided before html was invented, and hyperlinking was made possible?

Is his attribution cor the quote incorrect?

I frequently google to grab quotes. I am not required to say, "quoting Ben Franklin, as quoted by Wikki who quoted Poor Richard's Almanac, as reprinted by Random House"

 

[KingOrfeo]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/4_5_degrees.png

 

[Conager]

It is not a falsehood, I was referring to the theory of evolution as such. It is not based on racism. It is liable to racist misapplications.

You were arguing directly that the racist statement by him was not the result of racism. But the natural result of scientific endevour.

Your new parse is equally facile. One doesn't make "racist misapplications" without having interalized racist dogma.

Try again. Explain how Darwin made a clearly racist statement but not for reasons of racism.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You were arguing directly that the racist statement by him was not the result of racism.

No, I wasn't; I was arguing that the theory of evolution is not. You quoted a racist statement by Darwin; that does not mean racism is the basis of the theory.

 

[Conager]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/4_5_degrees.png

Comics now?

How apt.

Remember when accolytes of Frodo's Church would go out on a limb and predict what the temperature would be twenty years hence? I do. They were dramat8cally wrong because their models are based on swag that was more wild-assed guess than science.

Convenient that nearly every single human being that will see that comic will die and cease producing CO2 in less than the 86 year window.

 

[trysail]

complete fiction brought to you by computer models with no demonstrable record of predictive accuracy and swallowed wholesale by gullible people with anxiety disorders

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

GIGO.


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[phrodeau]

Yeah, yeah. Computer models aren't precisely accurate, past records are wildly subjective, and current conditions are nothing but weather.

Yet Climate Continues to Change.

 

[Conager]

Yeah, yeah. Computer models aren't precisely accurate, past records are wildly subjective, and current conditions are nothing but weather.

Yet Climate Continues to Change.

Yes it does. Always has, always will. The only thing certain in chaotic systems is change.

Now, if anyone actually knew to what extent it is changing and with any degree of certainty, why...you might have something to post about.

Keep clipping those localized weather reports, though. It will be a nice historical curiosity for your grandchildren to wonder over like we do now about the Salem Witch Trials.

 

[phrodeau]

Yes it does. Always has, always will. The only thing certain in chaotic systems is change.

Now, if anyone actually knew to what extent it is changing and with any degree of certainty, why...you might have something to post about.

Keep clipping those localized weather reports, though. It will be a nice historical curiosity for your grandchildren to wonder over like we do now about the Salem Witch Trials.

Not only is the climate changing faster now than ever before in known history, but the rate of change is accelerating.

It is estimated that the climate is currently changing 170 times faster than what would be a natural rate. Could be a little less, could be a little more, but the number is nowhere near 1.

 

[OldJourno]

Not only is the climate changing faster now than ever before in known history, but the rate of change is accelerating.

It is estimated that the climate is currently changing 170 times faster than what would be a natural rate. Could be a little less, could be a little more, but the number is nowhere near 1.

That sounds like a new strain of bullshit never before seen by man. How does climate change 170 times faster than the natural rate? What is the natural rate?Better yet, how warm will it be a week from Wednesday? I may want to play golf.

 

[Conager]

Not only is the climate changing faster now than ever before in known history, but the rate of change is accelerating.

It is estimated that the climate is currently changing 170 times faster than what would be a natural rate. Could be a little less, could be a little more, but the number is nowhere near 1.

'It is estimated. . ."

. . .ineptly.

Could be a lot less. Especially considering that the amount of the alleged change even after manipulation is well within the margin of error of the data. Because math. That you still don't understand.

 

[Conager]

That sounds like a new strain of bullshit never before seen by man. How does climate change 170 times faster than the natural rate? What is the natural rate?Better yet, how warm will it be a week from Wednesday? I may want to play golf.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/12/humans-causing-climate-to-change-170-times-faster-than-natural-forces

It is bullshit as per usual, but on steroids. It is obviously based on the long discredited hockey stick graph that only Phodeau buys anymore.

The two "researchers" (as if repackaging a narrative is "research") assume a delta of one tenth of a degree per century is "normal." We can't even measure the temperature of the Earth on any given day with in one tenth of a degree accuracy now. They also ignore known, historical fluctuations.

Expect more throw shit against the wall "studies" as this scam implodes and soon to be defunded "scientists" struggle for grant money.

This "study" had screaming headl8nes two weeks ago. Even Phrodeau, with no mathmatical cognition, sensed it is bullshit which is why he threw it in here as a hail mary, with no link.

That retarded gambie can be played endlessly. A few days ago, some astronomers were positing that glacial periods line up with incidences of Earth's orbit being skewed by proximity to mars. Sounds reasonable, still not science until someone figures out the math. It either can be shown by astronomy and math, or it can't.

 

[trysail]

http://www.climate4you.com/images/SeaIceBothHemisphereDailyUpdateGRAPH.gif




That's one helluva correlation:


http://www.climate4you.com/images/MSU%20RSS%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1979%20AndCO2.gif


What's the r-squared on that baby ? Whaddya think ? About 0.01 ?

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[phrodeau]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/feb/12/humans-causing-climate-to-change-170-times-faster-than-natural-forces

It is bullshit as per usual, but on steroids. It is obviously based on the long discredited hockey stick graph that only Phodeau buys anymore.

The two "researchers" (as if repackaging a narrative is "research") assume a delta of one tenth of a degree per century is "normal." We can't even measure the temperature of the Earth on any given day with in one tenth of a degree accuracy now. They also ignore known, historical fluctuations.

Expect more throw shit against the wall "studies" as this scam implodes and soon to be defunded "scientists" struggle for grant money.

This "study" had screaming headl8nes two weeks ago. Even Phrodeau, with no mathmatical cognition, sensed it is bullshit which is why he threw it in here as a hail mary, with no link.

That retarded gambie can be played endlessly. A few days ago, some astronomers were positing that glacial periods line up with incidences of Earth's orbit being skewed by proximity to mars. Sounds reasonable, still not science until someone figures out the math. It either can be shown by astronomy and math, or it can't.

You can't say exactly how wrong it might be. You have no scientific counter to the conclusion. You can only say it must be wrong because you think it is.

Religion much?

 

[KingOrfeo]

'It is estimated. . ."

. . .ineptly.

Could be a lot less. Especially considering that the amount of the alleged change even after manipulation is well within the margin of error of the data. Because math. That you still don't understand.

Cite for any of that?