Climate continues to change.

[Conager]

The California drought was not evidence of global warming, and I never made that claim. It is evidence of the extreme weather events associated with climate change.

By the way, the drought is not yet over in California.

"Evidence of." "Associated with." Amusing how often your religion changes terms, backpedals and redefines tortured phrases until they have no meaning at all.

Is there any weather event you cannot double-speak your way into support for your religion?

When droughts occured prior to man crawling forth from the primordial ooze, what caused those "EXTREMMMME weather events?"

 

[FakeNews]

...,,

Premature articulation?

 

[KingOrfeo]

"Evidence of." "Associated with." Amusing how often your religion changes terms, backpedals and redefines tortured phrases until they have no meaning at all.

Those terms have definite scientific meanings.

 

[phrodeau]

"Evidence of." "Associated with." Amusing how often your religion changes terms, backpedals and redefines tortured phrases until they have no meaning at all.

Is there any weather event you cannot double-speak your way into support for your religion?

When droughts occured prior to man crawling forth from the primordial ooze, what caused those "EXTREMMMME weather events?"

Let me ask you. Have you even read a science book?

http://www.trendolizer.com/assets_c/2016/07/3745575-thumb-300xauto-3257279.jpg

I will gladly lend you my copy.

 

[thør]

Interesting stuff.

 

[OldJourno]

Dear Rep. Smith,

I disagree with your denial of climate change because the whole global community of climatologists says otherwise, and they should know a lot more about it than you do.

Sincerely,

KingOrfeo

Dear KO,
Please provide the complete list of the whole global community of climatologists who concur with your point of view.
Sincerely,
OJ

 

[KingOrfeo]

Dear KO,
Please provide the complete list of the whole global community of climatologists who concur with your point of view.
Sincerely,
OJ

You can find a lot of them here.

 

[OldJourno]

You can find a lot of them here.

I'm only interested in the "whole global community of climatologists" you claimed backed your point of view.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm only interested in the "whole global community of climatologists" you claimed backed your point of view.

Do your own homework for a change.

Jeez, you only want other people to feed you information, and you decide which bits you like. Start with some real data for once.

 

[OldJourno]

Do your own homework for a change.

Jeez, you only want other people to feed you information, and you decide which bits you like. Start with some real data for once.

No, I expect people to back up statements delivered as fact. Why should I do research to confirm something someone else said, especially when I know it's not true?

 

[KingOrfeo]

I'm only interested in the "whole global community of climatologists" you claimed backed your point of view.

Practically all of them are in the organizations named in that article.

 

[Conager]

Let me ask you. Have you even read a science book?

http://www.trendolizer.com/assets_c/2016/07/3745575-thumb-300xauto-3257279.jpg

I will gladly lend you my copy.

Your "science book" is a single volume?

Does it have caligraphy and hand-colored saints?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Your "science book" is a single volume?

So is Origin of Species.

 

[OldJourno]

So is Origin of Species.

I hope you are not endorsing the theories of that racist.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I hope you are not endorsing the theories of that racist.

I hope you are not rejecting them. I don't know if Darwin was a racist; presumably he was, practically all white people of his century were including Abolitionists. So what? I know Bertrand Russell expressed belief in black inferiority early in his life; that in no way discredits his achievements in math and philosophy.

 

[OldJourno]

I hope you are not rejecting them. I don't know if Darwin was a racist; presumably he was, practically all white people of his century were including Abolitionists. So what? I know Bertrand Russell expressed belief in black inferiority early in his life; that in no way discredits his achievements in math and philosophy.

Darwin's "science" was based on racism. That's the difference.

 

[Conager]

Those terms have definite scientific meanings.

Indeed the do. "Evidence" is not speculation about causation based on (poor to no) correlation.

"Associated with" requires you actually connect some dots. It does not mean "loosely correlated with, and suspected of being related to, causation."

You and Phrodeau have every right to worship as you please.

Atheists are not known an God denialists, since that presupposes the existance of God.

No one has proved that antropogenic global warming has or will occur. The earth is warming, has been warming for centuries now. Man's impact might or might not appreciably influence that trend. No one claims to know to what extent. Those that have made fairly educated guesses on that have been dramatically wrong thus far.

Pointing that out is not denialism, no matter how smart it makes you feel to call it that.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Darwin's "science" was based on racism. That's the difference.

What, as between different species of Galapagos finches? Nonsense.

 

[Conager]

So is Origin of Species.

So you're saying that if you read that single volume you will be as knowledgeable about biology is Frodo is about weather? This I believe.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No one has proved that antropogenic global warming has or will occur.

Climatologists, who are the only reliable scientific authorities on this question, agree that has been proven definitively.

 

[OldJourno]

Climatologists, who are the only reliable scientific authorities on this question, agree that has been proven definitively.

All of them? You can't be serious.

 

[phrodeau]

Your "science book" is a single volume?

Does it have caligraphy and hand-colored saints?

Pretty much shows that you haven't read a science book.

 

[KingOrfeo]

All of them? You can't be serious.

Enough to form a scientific consensus. The few dissenters, most of whom are funded by oil companies, make no significant difference and can safely be dismissed as cranks.

 

[Conager]

Enough to form a scientific consensus. The few dissenters, most of whom are funded by oil companies, make no significant difference and can safely be dismissed as cranks.

To form a "consensus" you would have to solicit input from those you intend to build an alleged consensus with. Looking through scientific papers with the scientific acumen of, say, a Phrodeau, and ascribing the authors of those papers a position on anthropogenic global warming is not how you do that.

Many of the papers cited do not address anything to do with anthropogenic warming. The bullshit artists that low information consumers of propaganda rags like Salon and Slate continue to cite were not themselves qualified in any way to review such papers, and the authors of some of those papers have refuted this non-study that is the basis of the oft repeated cla of consensus.

Yes, you and Phrodeau are woefully ill-informed, but take heart- so was the previous occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

 

[phrodeau]

To form a "consensus" you would have to solicit input from those you intend to build an alleged consensus with. Looking through scientific papers with the scientific acumen of, say, a Phrodeau, and ascribing the authors of those papers a position on anthropogenic global warming is not how you do that.

Many of the papers cited do not address anything to do with anthropogenic warming. The bullshit artists that low information consumers of propaganda rags like Salon and Slate continue to cite were not themselves qualified in any way to review such papers, and the authors of some of those papers have refuted this non-study that is the basis of the oft repeated cla of consensus.

Yes, you and Phrodeau are woefully ill-informed, but take heart- so was the previous occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

Not sure what you're going on about. Something to do with a non-study, whatever that means? How scientific of you. Have you talked to any climate scientists?