Climate continues to change.

[thør]

How about between Anchorage and Fairbanks?

That is outside the boundary of the original conversation.

 

[GiaCat]

I care. It's friggin cold - we need to accelerate this.

Yeah, where is the global warming I've been promised? It was freeing in Chicago last winter ~*burrrr*~

 

[phrodeau]

~~~

Welcome aboard and good luck... they will read only the source and attempt to reject it for one reason or another... so... to perhaps at least catch their wandering eye and cause a reflexive gulp... from your link:

"The Arctic summer of 2014 is nearing an end. Overall, the rate of ice loss during August was near average. Regions of low concentration ice remain in the Beaufort and East Siberian seas that may yet melt out or compress by wind action. While the Northwest Passage continues to be clogged with ice and is unlikely to open, the Northern Sea Route along the Siberian coasts appears open except for some ice around Severnaya Zemlya. As the end of the southern winter draws closer, Antarctic sea ice extent remains higher than average.

...Sea ice extent in August 2014 averaged 6.22 million square kilometers (2.40 million square miles). This is 1.00 million square kilometers (386,000 square miles) below the 1981 to 2010 August average, but well above the 2012 August average of 4.71 million square kilometers (1.82 million square miles). Extent was below average throughout the Arctic except for a region in the Barents Sea, east of Svalbard. The ice edge continued to retreat north of the Laptev Sea, and is now within 5 degrees latitude of the North Pole...."

~~~

At the root of the scam is the acquired hatred of man and progress and the post industrial cornucopia of modern civilization. They would rather have the agricultural age of the labor of human backs rather than the modern era of machines and technology.

They would also rather have a King to bow to, but will be satisfied with a Commissar to tell them how to live their miserable lives.

The true burden of human freedom is just to much for them...

thanks for your Post...

amicus

Don't you read what you post?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Don't you read what you post?

Amicus never reads the crap he posts. He just talks loud.

 

[Que]

Using really big fonts and selectively highlighting a single, out of context phrase UD-Style does not improve your argument.

The very next sentence is:

but well above the 2012 August average of 4.71 million square kilometers (1.82 million square miles)

In context we have had a long, slow shrinking of the ice, and now we have a significant increase in the ice in a short period of time.

Neither trend is at all significant in geologic time.

If the amount of increase had happened the other way you would be squawking about that. Amicus is pointing out the trend (for now) is not in the direction that your articles of faith insist it should be.

It is rude of him to enter your little chapel here and point out a temporary inconvenient truth.

You, personally have no interest in climate or science. You just like the subject because it cannot be proved or disproved and gives you something to feel all liberal about.

 

[thør]

Yawn.

Looks about like last year.

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/files/2014/09/asina_N_stddev_timeseries.png

 

[phrodeau]

Using really big fonts and selectively highlighting a single, out of context phrase UD-Style does not improve your argument.

The very next sentence is:



In context we have had a long, slow shrinking of the ice, and now we have a significant increase in the ice in a short period of time.

Neither trend is at all significant in geologic time.

If the amount of increase had happened the other way you would be squawking about that. Amicus is pointing out the trend (for now) is not in the direction that your articles of faith insist it should be.

It is rude of him to enter your little chapel here and point out a temporary inconvenient truth.

You, personally have no interest in climate or science. You just like the subject because it cannot be proved or disproved and gives you something to feel all liberal about.

Rub your nose in the graph, please.

See the track for 2012. Notice how far away from the others it is. That is what is known as an outlier. You are treating an outlier as if it is the new normal. That is not scientific, it is simply dumb.

 

[Que]

I didn't say that.

I didn't say anything close to that.

It isn't an "outlier", until we see what the next 30 years does. It is a data point, nothing more, nothing less.

30 years of data-points is meaningless.

Meaningless as this thread where you prove time and again you know nothing of significant figures or statistical analysis.
"
Next week you will post an article about a hot day in Atlanta with "you see, you see???"

Your idea of an "outlier" is anything that doesn't fit your narrative. Outliers that fit the narrative, are of course "evidence.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Rub your nose in the graph, please.

See the track for 2012. Notice how far away from the others it is. That is what is known as an outlier. You are treating an outlier as if it is the new normal. That is not scientific, it is simply dumb.

It's good to see query expanding his logical fallacy horizons. "Fallacy of the small sample" will find a happy home in his toolbox, alongside of "red herring" "moving the goal posts" and "special pleading".

"Straw man/ascription" still remains the only fallacy he permits to share his bed, though.

 

[Amberchgo]

It's raining today.

Wasn't raining yesterday.

Climate is changing.

 

[amicus]

Don't you read what you post?

~~~

Not only is the arctic ice cap growing, sea levels in Alaska are falling, which makes sense, more ice, less water, but then common sense is a virtue absent from liberals in general, now, ain't it?






Ketchikan, Alaska
9450460

"The mean sea level trend is -0.19 mm/year with a 95% confidence interval of +/- 0.27 mm/year based on monthly mean sea level data from 1919 to 2006 which is equivalent to a change of -0.06 feet in 100 years."



-0.19
mm/year
1919 - 2006

Choose plot:
Linear Trend

You may have seen the, 'scientific', program about an Alaskan village being forced to move to higher ground to avoid rising sea levels... they lied to you...

There is no man caused global warming, there is no destruction of the ozone layer because of man, the ice caps are not melting and the sea level is not rising, but actually falling slightly since 1919...

Driven by women and pussified men, out to save the whales, save the snail darters, save the spotted owl, preserve the pristine wilderness so mosquitos and ticks can survive and humans can go hungry and have no place to live.

now... what is the logic and the ethic in that?

the same thing every statist wants, power and control over others and how they live.

they think, no, believe, they never think, they believe that self determination, liberty for all, is something you, the general public cannot handle... so... they want to tell you and force you to live the way they think you should...

eat your broccoli, dear...

FU!

der amicus

 

[phrodeau]

Alaska is rising, you twit. Here's a video for schoolkids you might understand.

http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/res...aktectonic/tectonic-plate-movement-in-alaska/

 

[thør]

Alaska is a big place. Lotsa stuff happening, here. You can't just say "Alaska is ####." Some parts go up, some go down.

 

[amicus]

Alaska is rising, you twit. Here's a video for schoolkids you might understand.

http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/res...aktectonic/tectonic-plate-movement-in-alaska/

~~~

Yet another illustration of the liberal left ignoring reality and being hoisted by its own petard... so to speak...

A couple things, eat your curds and whey, fey, I guess that means sea levels are not rising? Or only in one place...? ahem, water rather flows to the lowest point regardless.

Secondly, gee, there are no numbers in the text, I did not view the videos, but are you sure, to maintain the faith, that the rate of uplift is greater than your believe in the rise of the sea level?

Every part of North America that was under a glacier, is still rebounding and rising from fourteen thousand years ago...but, ya know, if sea levels were rising, it would happen everywhere, them bodies of water being somewhat connected, y'know?

You are preaching to your congregation of believers, so I expect neither you nor them to ever wake up and open your eyes; but to others, who seek truth, the more I expose your lies the more they see the whole thing is just a scam...

the oceans levels are not rising, the glaciers are not melting in any way other than they always have, there is no harm to the ozone layer, there is no shortage of fossil fuels...see fracking and natural gas to educate yourself, and....THERE IS NO MAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING! NONE!


The always honest amicus

toodles

 

[thør]

Every part?

Really?

 

[domroger]

~~~

Yet another illustration of the liberal left ignoring reality and being hoisted by its own petard... so to speak...

A couple things, eat your curds and whey, fey, I guess that means sea levels are not rising? Or only in one place...? ahem, water rather flows to the lowest point regardless.

Secondly, gee, there are no numbers in the text, I did not view the videos, but are you sure, to maintain the faith, that the rate of uplift is greater than your believe in the rise of the sea level?

Every part of North America that was under a glacier, is still rebounding and rising from fourteen thousand years ago...but, ya know, if sea levels were rising, it would happen everywhere, them bodies of water being somewhat connected, y'know?

You are preaching to your congregation of believers, so I expect neither you nor them to ever wake up and open your eyes; but to others, who seek truth, the more I expose your lies the more they see the whole thing is just a scam...

the oceans levels are not rising, the glaciers are not melting in any way other than they always have, there is no harm to the ozone layer, there is no shortage of fossil fuels...see fracking and natural gas to educate yourself, and....THERE IS NO MAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING! NONE!


The always honest amicus

toodles

What a moroon

 

[CandiCame]

I love Ami

 

[InJest]

The insurance industry just cut expected hurricane losses in HALF due to the slow start to the "season."

The cool thing about climate change is that worshippers interpret it both ways - so too few storms is also a "sign" of manmade environment destruction.

Isn't December 15th the last possible date for sweeping change or we're doomed?

 

[amicus]

The insurance industry just cut expected hurricane losses in HALF due to the slow start to the "season."

The cool thing about climate change is that worshippers interpret it both ways - so too few storms is also a "sign" of manmade environment destruction.

Isn't December 15th the last possible date for sweeping change or we're doomed?

~~~

I
m thinkin' that was 2012, the end of the world.

What you say is true, they lie both ways, but the defining characteristic of their faith is the, 'why', behind it.

The intellectual elite have never had a religious faith to lean upon, only their devious mentality to profit from government and education, which they do so very well.

For a wimpy little braniac to imagine himself dealing with global issues, my, oh, my, what a rush for such a little person.

Global warming, something of faith that they can believe in, has replaced the god they never had, and being new at the game, they overlooked a technically proficient demographic that flat called them out. Exposed the fraud, ecce bono, followed the money to the graft and corruption in government grants, subsidies and paid for professors...

These poor little people can't even keep t heir foodstamps or obamaphones in order, yet they think they can change the world.

off with their heads!

amicus the funny guy

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

~~~

I
m thinkin' that was 2912, the end of the world.

What you say is true, they lie both ways, but the defining characteristic of their faith is the, 'why', behind it.

The intellectual elite have never had a religious faith to lean upon, only their devious mentality to profit from government and education, which they do so very well.

For a wimpy little braniac to imagine himself dealing with global issues, my, oh, my, what a rush for such a little person.

Global warming, something of faith that they can believe in, has replaced the god they never had, and being new at the game, they overlooked a technically proficient demographic that flat called them out. Exposed the fraud, ecce bono, followed the money to the graft and corruption in government grants, subsidies and paid for professors...

These poor little people can't even keep t heir foodstamps or obamaphones in order, yet they think they can change the world.

off with their heads!

amicus the funny guy

Wouldn't a scientist make more money by being able to prove climate change isn't caused by man?

 

[phrodeau]

It appears that I need to take things to a different level.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/newsroom/img/posts/2014/09/3-1/0227ec3d9.jpg

 

[amicus]

It appears that I need to take things to a different level.

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/newsroom/img/posts/2014/09/3-1/0227ec3d9.jpg

~~~

"" Francis says it is premature ...
www.redding.com, 16 Feb 2014 [cached]
" Francis says it is premature to blame humans for these changes."

hmmm

is she saying that the minimal changes to the climate are natural occurrences....

I think she hacked my compute as well... damn left wing thieves anyways...

ehahhh oh, that was Biden, or was it....

oops

amicus

 

[Shagly]

It's going back to the ice age.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Wouldn't a scientist make more money by being able to prove climate change isn't caused by man?

Yes, or even by pretending to be able to prove it.

 

[phrodeau]

~~~

"" Francis says it is premature ...
www.redding.com, 16 Feb 2014 [cached]
" Francis says it is premature to blame humans for these changes."

hmmm

is she saying that the minimal changes to the climate are natural occurrences....

I think she hacked my compute as well... damn left wing thieves anyways...

ehahhh oh, that was Biden, or was it....

oops

amicus

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