Climate continues to change.

[gunthernehmen]

You can jerk off to CNN articles all day long but until you're willing to be part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

 

[thør]

Norway wants electric cars.

 

[phrodeau]

You can jerk off to CNN articles all day long but until you're willing to be part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

You jerk off to news articles? That’s different.

 

[Dribble]

What the small-minded moron doesnt understand, is that the cnn article is nothing but a highlight of the ORIGINAL article from the peer reviewed journal Ecology Letters. Now, having published in this journal myself, I will admit it isnt the hardest journal to get publish in...but it isnt the easiest either. And it is sure heck of a lot harder than the blogs he reads.

 

[von_Bismarck]

You jerk off to news articles? That’s different.

Gunny is a kinky fucker.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Now, having published in this journal myself

Speaking of self gratification...

You must be sooo smaht

It does go to prove smart doesn't equal common sense.

 

[Dribble]

Lol...sucks dont it?

 

[gunthernehmen]

Whatever makes you happy.

 

[CandiCame]

Every so often I come in here and I hope and pray that some dumbass is bitching about windmills so that I can make a Don Quixote reference and I guess I'm going to have to accept that it's just never going to fucking happen but I don't have to be happy about it.

 

[trysail]

2019: The Third Least Chilly In The Satellite Temperature Record

by Roy W. Spencer, Ph.D.

"...The click-bait journalism typified by terms like “hottest”, “climate emergency”, and now “climate catastrophe” helps explain why the public is largely indifferent to the global warming issue, at least if we are asked to spend more than a few dollars to fix it.

This is why the alarmist narrative has moved on from temperature, and now focuses on wildfires, droughts, floods, hurricanes, snowstorms, and sea level rise. Yet, none of these have worsened in the last 100 years, with the exception of global sea level rise which has been occurring at a rate of about 1 inch per decade for as long as it has been monitored (since the 1850s, well before humans could be blamed).

And, just in case some new visitors to my blog are reading this, let me clarify that I am not a denier of human-caused climate change. I believe at least some of the warming we have experienced in the last 50 years has been due to increasing carbon dioxide. I just consider the fraction of warming attributable to humans to be uncertain, and probably largely benign.

This is fully consistent with the science, since the global energy imbalance necessary to explain recent warming (about 1 part in 250 of the natural energy flows in and out of the climate system) is much smaller than our knowledge of those flows, either from either theoretical first principles or from observations.

In other words, recent warming might well be mostly natural.

We just don’t know."






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[Dribble]

What? Cant he get his research published in a peer reviewed journal? Oh...I see...no research...just an opinion...from his blog... which says? It is getting warmer? And yes, it could be caused by humans...and it might not....so....how about some probabilities? Or some confidence intervals? You cant? Why? Oh...no research. And no evidence saying the research that does exist, is wrong.

But it does have a pretty map. See all that red at top? Where it is supposed to be cold? Where there should be ice? What does that red mean? Dazzle me with your genius...moron

 

[trysail]

Contrast Of Climate And Energy Policies, And Economic Results, In The U.S. and Germany

by Francis Menton
B.A., Yale College
J.D., Harvard University
Retired Partner, Wilkie, Farr & Gallagher LLP

"... German consumer electricity prices are also about triple the U.S. average.

And the economic news from Germany? It seems that the industrial sector is in the midst of a slump, in substantial part caused by the mad drive to force energy conversion without consideration of the costs. From the Daily Express, December 3:

THE GERMAN car industry is facing disaster with up to 50,000 jobs under threat or expected to be lost before the end of the year in what has been described as the “biggest crisis since the invention of the automobile”. Last week the owner of Mercedes-Benz announced plans to axe at least 10,000 employees globally, taking the number of jobs losses by German carmakers to almost 40,000 this year as the industry sinks under a massive sales slump. Daimler wants to save £1.2billion in staff costs as it prepares to invest billions in the electric cars boom. Audi, which is owned by Volkswagen, has also said it would be shedding almost 10,000 people - around around 10 percent of its global workforce.​

Trading Economics here states that German GDP “rebounded” to a growth of 0.1% in the third quarter, after a decline of 0.2% in the second quarter of 2019. Congratulations!..."






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[gunthernehmen]

Cue drivel LOL

Or will it be Phro this time?

 

[phrodeau]

Contrast Of Climate And Energy Policies, And Economic Results, In The U.S. and Germany

by Francis Menton
B.A., Yale College
J.D., Harvard University
Retired Partner, Wilkie, Farr & Gallagher LLP

"... German consumer electricity prices are also about triple the U.S. average.

And the economic news from Germany? It seems that the industrial sector is in the midst of a slump, in substantial part caused by the mad drive to force energy conversion without consideration of the costs. From the Daily Express, December 3:

THE GERMAN car industry is facing disaster with up to 50,000 jobs under threat or expected to be lost before the end of the year in what has been described as the “biggest crisis since the invention of the automobile”. Last week the owner of Mercedes-Benz announced plans to axe at least 10,000 employees globally, taking the number of jobs losses by German carmakers to almost 40,000 this year as the industry sinks under a massive sales slump. Daimler wants to save £1.2billion in staff costs as it prepares to invest billions in the electric cars boom. Audi, which is owned by Volkswagen, has also said it would be shedding almost 10,000 people - around around 10 percent of its global workforce.​

Trading Economics here states that German GDP “rebounded” to a growth of 0.1% in the third quarter, after a decline of 0.2% in the second quarter of 2019. Congratulations!..."






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Wrong thread. Find an auto industry corruption thread instead.

 

[dolf]

I don't want to scroll back through the c&p drivel, but has anyone posted about the ocean oxygen levels plummeting?

Depressing shit

Obviously it's going to hit the apex predators first. We'll have to start eating jellyfish mayo in our sarnies and baked spuds.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Cue drivel LOL

Or will it be Phro this time?

Wrong thread. Find an auto industry corruption thread instead.

Phro!

 

[Dribble]

I don't want to scroll back through the c&p drivel, but has anyone posted about the ocean oxygen levels plummeting?

Depressing shit

Obviously it's going to hit the apex predators first. We'll have to start eating jellyfish mayo in our sarnies and baked spuds.

Warmer water holds less dissolved gases than colder water. This is simple physics. Likewise, the amount of change we will see, even though real, will be well within existing life boundaries if one only looks at temperature. Why?

Gas diffusion only occurs at the surface. The warmer temperatures will increase storm formation...increasing wave action...which will offset predicted loss of oxygen. Again...this is physics.

So where is the issue? Warmer water increases algae production. Algae, at night, respires... actually it respires all the time, but during daylight hours it photosynthesizes... giving off oxygen as well. So at night, algae need oxygen...fish needs oxygen...and if you have an algae bloom that happens due to nutrients in the water...there is not enough oxygen in the water for the fish, and other critters.

Is oxygen depletion being driven by climate change? Yes. But by itself, the expected oxygen depletion would not be sufficient to affect mortality. But the dissolved carbon dioxide....that is a whole different ball of wax. This causes acidification. Chemistry 101. If pH changes, bad stuff happens. For example, aragonite is the carbonate form that is used by coral and shellfish. If the pH drops to 7.8, normal is 8.2 in salt water, argonite no longer becomes available. During upwelling events on the west coast, we have recorded pH as low as 7.2 (remember pH is logrithmic). Carbonate, which is used to buffer the water, is not available from dissolved forms. And it then utilizes existing carbonate...robbing from shells, corals and shellfish.

 

[Dribble]

Edit: Technically gas diffusion can, and does happen at volcanic vents too. But the amount of change these can have are minimal outside local affects. Think of a fish tank. See those bubbles rising up? The amount of time they are underwater is not enough for efficient gas exchange. But what those bubbles do is agitate the surface. And that is where 99.99% of your gas exchange happens.

So how do we know that the co2 that is affecting acidification is from fossil fuels and not natural sources? Great question dribble. Most everyone has heard of the radioisotope c13. It exists along w normal carbon12. Every living thing, has a given proportion of c13 to c12. This is how we can look at historical carbon dioxide levels and say what we say. But that doesnt say it is anthropogenic. But magically, there are many other radio isotopes. And those ratios to c13 are dependent on the source. So yea, with math, we can say the carbon dioxide affecting acidification is due to fossil fuels and not volcanic activity, for example, because the ratio of say radioactive cesium to c13 is also increasing...and cesium is present in fossil fuels but not as much in volcanic activity

Isnt science fun?

 

[phrodeau]

Phro!

Wrong thread. Find a jerking off to news articles thread instead.

 

[Dribble]

This is an example of what Donald Trump thinks is environmental protectionism...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/07/politics/trump-americans-flushing-toilets-intl/index.html

Who the fuck has to flush their toilet 10-15 times? Even the trump supporters dont do this....they have fucking outhouses for christ's sake

 

[Dribble]

See how they run? Like pigs from a gun.

I expect nothing, and still it is too much. That is our Republican naysayers. Post pretty pictures....oh....red....

 

[heathergives]

See how they run? Like pigs from a gun.

I expect nothing, and still it is too much. That is our Republican naysayers. Post pretty pictures....oh....red....

Do they? Sounds like some sort of obscure rock lyric.

 

[Dribble]

Do they? Sounds like some sort of obscure rock lyric.

It is. It is also very fitting. Let us worry about toilets that you have to flush 10 to 15 times....your genius leader's words...not mine...and ignore what science is presenting. Roll your eyes on that moron

 

[gunthernehmen]

Wrong thread. Find a jerking off to news articles thread instead.

And yet you came.

 

[heathergives]

Wrong again!

It is. It is also very fitting. Let us worry about toilets that you have to flush 10 to 15 times....your genius leader's words...not mine...and ignore what science is presenting. Roll your eyes on that moron

Trying to figure that one out, as none of your words apply to me.
My home is replete with water saving devices, even the toilets. And I never voted for Trump, although I'll freely admit to being a conservative.

But then, "Dribble" your screen name indicates to me that your fixation on toilets may reflect some sort of diaper fetish, and I wouldn't be surprised.