circumcision...ugh

[QuickDuck]

Going to wade in here (oh note, I only read the first couple of pages, then skip to the last pages).

Personally, I am uncut and its never bothered me in any way.

Not once have I had a woman (or a guy) tell me thats its unattractive and I guess I will never know when it comes to "sensitivity"

As for health reasons, well I don't believe I have ever had any issues along those lines either.

I personally do not see any reason to have it done, but if thats what the parents decide, then fair enough.

Its your choice (unfortunately he can;t vote on the subject).

 

[smy3th]

i'm breast-feeding for 6 months then he's going to learn how to drink from a cup

I'm glad to hear you plan on weaning to a cup, but I think 6 months may be a little optimistic to accomplish that.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

I'm glad to hear you plan on weaning to a cup, but I think 6 months may be a little optimistic to accomplish that.

Agreed. Might be juuuuust a little soon for that.

 

[hydrex]

A lot of cults have bizzare initiation practices and rituals. David Koresh liked to fuck 12 year olds. What was good in the dark ages may not be good in today's world. It's called evolution.

Well if you don't believe in Gods word then thats up to you. Just because some do doesn't mean they are wrong and you are right.

Do you believe in any god or gods?

 

[hydrex]

I see you have none.

well a lobotomy and a circumcision are two very different things and done for very different reasons but if you have either and don't remember it what's the problem as long as they solve the dilema?

 

[thegirlfriday11]

My nephew/godson had it done and he's fine.

ETA: You don't have to have it done. It's not really going to be lifechanging one way or the other.

The only people who weren't fine at the bris were me and his other aunt. Go figure.

he's having it done, i have no problem with it, i just don't like the pain part

but he'll survive

i don't like the pain part of natural childbirth either, but i'm doing it because i think it's best...and i'll survive it as well

i don't like that my nipples are going to hurt for 6 months from breast feeding, but i'll survive that too

life isn't always peaches and cream and pain free

the sooner people realize that, the faster they can learn to deal with it when it happens

i had major surgery three times by age 11...and the second surgery at age 6 was to open my urethra because it had for some reason closed up...it burned when i peed and it hurt, but i'm not damaged from it

in fact, being exposed to a lot of pain as a kid, i can manage pain quite well as an adult...i stay calm and don't panic

overly protected, sheltered kids who aren't allowed to do anything because they might get hurt are the ones with problems to me

 

[breakwall]

A lot of cults have bizzare initiation practices and rituals. David Koresh liked to fuck 12 year olds. What was good in the dark ages may not be good in today's world. It's called evolution.

so let me get this straight.

Circumcision = Pedophelia

ergo

Jews = Pedophiles.

wow.
And right up to this thread I thought you were reasonably intelligent.
Where the hell have I been hiding?

 

[thegirlfriday11]

I have 5 boys, all of which were circumcized and are perfectly fine.

and my son will be fine too

just like the other millions of circumcized men in the world

 

[hydrex]

he's having it done, i have no problem with it, i just don't like the pain part

but he'll survive

i don't like the pain part of natural childbirth either, but i'm doing it because i think it's best...and i'll survive it as well

i don't like that my nipples are going to hurt for 6 months from breast feeding, but i'll survive that too

life isn't always peaches and cream and pain free

the sooner people realize that, the faster they can learn to deal with it when it happens

i had major surgery three times by age 11...and the second surgery at age 6 was to open my urethra because it had for some reason closed up...it burned when i peed and it hurt, but i'm not damaged from it

in fact, being exposed to a lot of pain as a kid, i can manage pain quite well as an adult...i stay calm and don't panic

overly protected, sheltered kids who aren't allowed to do anything because they might get hurt are the ones with problems to me

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Life is tough, deal with it. Seems there are a lot of people that want to protect kids from living. I bet they also have no problem with Orwells 1984 since they will be protected from everything including themselves.

 

[thegirlfriday11]

can I have the rest then?

lol

gross...no...once junior is done, these breasts are done being feeding machines and can resume being toys for my man

 

[hydrex]

lol

gross...no...once junior is done, these breasts are done being feeding machines and can resume being toys for my man

you're so selfish.

 

[Ange1icflowers]

I wanted to get in on the whole circumcision debate. I have 2 boys. My first was circumcised. They put a numbing cream on it and then do the procedure. They say that within the first 48 hours of life there aren't as many nerves there, so it's not quite as painful as waiting to it. They say that the babies cry because they are strapped down. I don't know what to believe.

My second wasn't circumcised. They waited until he was 3 weeks old to ask me if I wanted it done since he was a preemie and a NICU baby. I felt that he had been through enough so far in his short life I didn't want to put him through that. That and the fact that they did my 1st son's wrong (he has a very retractable foreskin.) I suppose it's possible that it grew back or they didn't do it right or something. But I wasn't putting the 2nd through that ESPECIALLY since, according to what I've heard, the nerves were all working properly at 3 weeks.

As for the breastfeeding issue: I was gung ho about breastfeeding as well. Unfortunately I didn't have enough (I'm missing milk glands in my right breast and didn't know that until I tried breastfeeding). Once I started supplementing, it made the feedings a lot nicer for BOTH of us. My first child weaned himself off of the breast at 6 months and off of the bottle at 1 year.

I also breast/bottle fed my second child as well. he weaned himself off of the breast at 4 months but we're still working on the bottle (He's 14 months/12 months adjusted).

My advice is don't totally put out the idea of the bottle. Keep an open mind. And also remember, that even if you "can't" breastfeed entirely, some breastmilk is better than none and not being able to breastfeed IS okay. NOT all women can do it....despite what the LaLeche league and Breastfeeding constultants say. I had alot of pressure from both to not allow my baby a bottle (the first one) and it made the decision to give him one even harder. It turned out better for him to get the supplement.

 

[thegirlfriday11]

I'm glad to hear you plan on weaning to a cup, but I think 6 months may be a little optimistic to accomplish that.

i have high ambitions and hopes for junior

he may not be able to really manage the cup alone, but if i hold it, he ought to be able to get used to drinking from it

lol, if i could potty train him by age 1, i would

 

[smy3th]

I'm sure your man will enjoy getting the rest. I got some for a long time. I miss it.

 

[thegirlfriday11]

you're so selfish.

i know, i'm a bitch like that

 

[hydrex]

i know, i'm a bitch like that

LOL

 

[Trinique_Fire]

i have high ambitions and hopes for junior

he may not be able to really manage the cup alone, but if i hold it, he ought to be able to get used to drinking from it

lol, if i could potty train him by age 1, i would

Pottytraining is a sore subject for me, and since you brought it up, I thought I'd throw something in...

children do not respond well to "forced" potty training (I call it forced because I can't think of another word for it) and they're better off doing things in their own time. My sister is a very relaxed parent when it comes to that. My oldest niece is three, and still not potty trained. She's just not ready yet. But every day, my sister reminds her where the Pull-Ups are when she's ready to try. My sister has showed her how to use them and leaves them next to the potty. My sister's not worried. None of her kids have had developmental problems, and she has three, ages 5, 3, and 2. She said that if she has to, she'll wait to put my niece in preschool. It doesn't bother her.

On the other hand, I knew a couple people who tried to pottytrain their kids at age one. Didn't work out well. They "forced" them, etc, and in fact, it pushed the children's progress backwards and caused accidents in bed, etc.

Just something to think about.

 

[thegirlfriday11]

I wanted to get in on the whole circumcision debate. I have 2 boys. My first was circumcised. They put a numbing cream on it and then do the procedure. They say that within the first 48 hours of life there aren't as many nerves there, so it's not quite as painful as waiting to it. They say that the babies cry because they are strapped down. I don't know what to believe.

My second wasn't circumcised. They waited until he was 3 weeks old to ask me if I wanted it done since he was a preemie and a NICU baby. I felt that he had been through enough so far in his short life I didn't want to put him through that. That and the fact that they did my 1st son's wrong (he has a very retractable foreskin.) I suppose it's possible that it grew back or they didn't do it right or something. But I wasn't putting the 2nd through that ESPECIALLY since, according to what I've heard, the nerves were all working properly at 3 weeks.

As for the breastfeeding issue: I was gung ho about breastfeeding as well. Unfortunately I didn't have enough (I'm missing milk glands in my right breast and didn't know that until I tried breastfeeding). Once I started supplementing, it made the feedings a lot nicer for BOTH of us. My first child weaned himself off of the breast at 6 months and off of the bottle at 1 year.

I also breast/bottle fed my second child as well. he weaned himself off of the breast at 4 months but we're still working on the bottle (He's 14 months/12 months adjusted).

My advice is don't totally put out the idea of the bottle. Keep an open mind. And also remember, that even if you "can't" breastfeed entirely, some breastmilk is better than none and not being able to breastfeed IS okay. NOT all women can do it....despite what the LaLeche league and Breastfeeding constultants say. I had alot of pressure from both to not allow my baby a bottle (the first one) and it made the decision to give him one even harder. It turned out better for him to get the supplement.

if i can't breast feed, then of course he'll get supplements

my mom couldn't breast feed me, and my sister was allergic to breast milk...she had to have goats milk

but if my milk is good and plentiful, then junior will get breast fed exclusively for 6 months, either by my breasts or the breast milk i will store in bottles so his dad and others can feed him too

i really want to wean him from a bottle very early...and those little sippy cups (i'm not sure what they're called...but the ones with the lid and the perforations in the top) are great

 

[Trinique_Fire]

if i can't breast feed, then of course he'll get supplements

my mom couldn't breast feed me, and my sister was allergic to breast milk...she had to have goats milk

but if my milk is good and plentiful, then junior will get breast fed exclusively for 6 months, either by my breasts or the breast milk i will store in bottles so his dad and others can feed him too

i really want to wean him from a bottle very early...and those little sippy cups (i'm not sure what they're called...but the ones with the lid and the perforations in the top) are great

You got it right. They're called sippy cups.

 

[smy3th]

My advice is don't totally put out the idea of the bottle. Keep an open mind. And also remember, that even if you "can't" breastfeed entirely, some breastmilk is better than none and not being able to breastfeed IS okay. NOT all women can do it....despite what the LaLeche league and Breastfeeding constultants say. I had alot of pressure from both to not allow my baby a bottle (the first one) and it made the decision to give him one even harder.

I think this is good advice. My wife was a LLL leader (still qualified, but inactive). She would say pretty much the same thing: Do as much as you can, and don't obsess or feel guilty if for any reason you can't. Her mother was from the OLD school, and thought breast feeding was wierd, and kept pressuring her to quit. The pressure goes both ways. The kid will grow up either way, and he won't end up remembering breast feeding any more than he remembers his circumcision. Mother's milk is ideal, but millions grow up fine without it. No reason to obsess either way.

If you have the luxury of staying home with the baby, it is a whole lot easier if you wean directly to a cup. Nothing wrong with supplementing with a bottle, or saving some milk and having baby sitters give it to him in a bottle, but if you wean to a bottle, it will be a lot harder to wean to a cup than if you go straight from the breast to the cup. Not everyone can do that. The only thing is, try not to get into propping a bottle to put the baby to sleep. Very bad habit to get into.

From the selfish male perspective, the nice things about breast feeding are (1) I didn't have to do it in the middle of the night, (2) I got to share a little sometimes.

 

[thegirlfriday11]

I'm sure your man will enjoy getting the rest. I got some for a long time. I miss it.

i really kind of hope my man isn't interested in breast milk

if he's curious and wants to try it once, that's one thing....but i'm not breast feeding my man, lol

 

[thegirlfriday11]

Pottytraining is a sore subject for me, and since you brought it up, I thought I'd throw something in...

children do not respond well to "forced" potty training (I call it forced because I can't think of another word for it) and they're better off doing things in their own time. My sister is a very relaxed parent when it comes to that. My oldest niece is three, and still not potty trained. She's just not ready yet. But every day, my sister reminds her where the Pull-Ups are when she's ready to try. My sister has showed her how to use them and leaves them next to the potty. My sister's not worried. None of her kids have had developmental problems, and she has three, ages 5, 3, and 2. She said that if she has to, she'll wait to put my niece in preschool. It doesn't bother her.

On the other hand, I knew a couple people who tried to pottytrain their kids at age one. Didn't work out well. They "forced" them, etc, and in fact, it pushed the children's progress backwards and caused accidents in bed, etc.

Just something to think about.

i didn't say i'd force him to be potty trained by age one, i said i'd like for him to be, which means if he can do it, great, if not, then that's fine too...i just think it would be ideal to have those things over with as early as the child can manage them

 

[Trinique_Fire]

i didn't say i'd force him to be potty trained by age one, i said i'd like for him to be, which means if he can do it, great, if not, then that's fine too...i just think it would be ideal to have those things over with as early as the child can manage them

I know...force wasn't the right word, but my brain isn't functioning very well with vocabulary this morning...

 

[EarnestImp]

so let me get this straight.
Circumcision = Pedophelia
ergo
Jews = Pedophiles.
wow.
And right up to this thread I thought you were reasonably intelligent.
Where the hell have I been hiding?

Wow! This is definitely Olympic level straw-man building. He never said or implied what you just wrote.

PS: If that's you in your AV, you might want to look up pectus cavatum. It's treatable, you know.

 

[cookiejar]

Wow! This is definitely Olympic level straw-man building. He never said or implied what you just wrote.

PS: If that's you in your AV, you might want to look up pectus cavatum. It's treatable, you know.

If that's him in his av and I think it is...he's hot as hell. Try another insult.