Cheater cheater pumpkineater!

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[Wildcard Ky]

Which POS refs are we badmouthing?

 

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[The_Fool]

I wanna watch Football instead of working...

 

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[jomar]

Go Panthers!

 

[Lisa Denton]

Not really a sports fan here.

I saw a game I liked.

It was a baseball game for charity, I just stumbled on it and was watching. All country/western music celebrities playing for a good cause and goofin around a little. I forget who she was but a really petite lady had finally, finally, gotten not struck out by a terrible pitcher.

The announcers was laffin so hard they could barely talk about how many times the bad pitcher had struck her out. But she got a hit and barely made it to the first base thingie. She looked like an olympic gold winner, dancin and celebratin that she didn't get struck out.

Then the next batter got a hit and she ran to second base but got touched right as her foot landed on the base, it was close, and the referee said she was out.

She looked like she was gonna cry for a minute, just staring at him, the whole stadium got quiet. Then she went up and started kicking dirt on him, it was hilarious.

I think they need more comedy in sports, I liked that game but hardly never watch baseball or football, I would if it was funnier.

 

[McKenna]

This brings up a question:

Yesterday I went to my niece's soccer game. She's nine. She plays in a league that isn't terribly competitive, that's supposed to play more "for fun" than another league in the city that plays for blood (yes, at the pee wee level!).

So yesterday I'm watching the match. The ref blows the whistle for a foul, the kids --too engrossed in the game, I guess-- keep playing for a few seconds, the ref blows the whistle again just before a goal is made.

The ref let the team keep the goal.

I thought this was ridiculous. It's one thing to have a less agressive league, but does that also mean you neglect the rules of the sport? I kept wondering what kind of message this was sending to the kids playing.

Does this happen often and I just don't see it?

 

[Belegon]

Does this happen often and I just don't see it?

Not often, and the real problem I have with it is that it teaches the kids the wrong lesson. Is it any wonder that when they get older they feel like rules are guidelines, not rules?

At every level, the rules of a game should stay rules.

 

[gauchecritic]

This brings up a question:

Yesterday I went to my niece's soccer game. She's nine. She plays in a league that isn't terribly competitive, that's supposed to play more "for fun" than another league in the city that plays for blood (yes, at the pee wee level!).

So yesterday I'm watching the match. The ref blows the whistle for a foul, the kids --too engrossed in the game, I guess-- keep playing for a few seconds, the ref blows the whistle again just before a goal is made.

The ref let the team keep the goal.

I thought this was ridiculous. It's one thing to have a less agressive league, but does that also mean you neglect the rules of the sport? I kept wondering what kind of message this was sending to the kids playing.

Does this happen often and I just don't see it?

weeeell football. It's not really your game is it? You either play properly or you just arse about, in which case there's no real need for a ref. Decisions in these games are by consensus. (first to twenty is the winner, ten half time)

hence the terms (that you've obviously never heard of, for various sports

Goal or a pen. (football)

Peggy chance (cricket)

Jaffas (almost any team sport where the youngest playing is allowed to do almost anything at all and not be out or penalised for anything at all)

Any wicket (cricket)

No offside (which includes no goal greasing) (football)

(cricket probably has most consensus rules: Six and out. No slogging. No overarms. No underarms. Gardens are six and out. No leg before.)

etc etc

 

[McKenna]

Not often, and the real problem I have with it is that it teaches the kids the wrong lesson. Is it any wonder that when they get older they feel like rules are guidelines, not rules?

At every level, the rules of a game should stay rules.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[McKenna]

weeeell football. It's not really your game is it? You either play properly or you just arse about, in which case there's no real need for a ref. Decisions in these games are by consensus. (first to twenty is the winner, ten half time)

hence the terms (that you've obviously never heard of, for various sports

Goal or a pen. (football)

Peggy chance (cricket)

Jaffas (almost any team sport where the youngest playing is allowed to do almost anything at all and not be out or penalised for anything at all)

Any wicket (cricket)

No offside (which includes no goal greasing) (football)

(cricket probably has most consensus rules: Six and out. No slogging. No overarms. No underarms. Gardens are six and out. No leg before.)

etc etc

Gauche, I'm having a hard time trying to figure out just what point you're making other than taking a stab at nine-year-old girls trying to play soccer.

Good form, man. Good form.

 

[gauchecritic]

Gauche, I'm having a hard time trying to figure out just what point you're making other than taking a stab at nine-year-old girls trying to play soccer.

Good form, man. Good form.

Actually I was being condescendingly English and talking about street rules when playing sport with friends, which we tended to play for the exercise rather than the win.

When the grown ups organise sport they usually do it for reasons other.

Plus the fact that you didn't actually say whether the foul was for or against the goal scoring side, which means he may have been playing advantage. The second whistle may have been for a different infringement and again the goal may have been given as the ref. played advantage.
That would just be poor refereeing, blowing up too soon and nothing at all to do with 'soccer', girls or rules.

I am stung. It hurts.

 

[Lisa Denton]

That would just be poor refereeing, blowing up too soon and nothing at all to do with 'soccer', girls or rules.

I am stung. It hurts.

Its ok gauch, I've heard lots of guys blow up too soon, maybe you should try thinking about "soccer" or something.

Anyways, you can still cuddle afterwards like a stud with those eyes.

 

[Edward Teach]

I hate bad calls from referees.

Refs almost always do their best and officials in the pro ranks are generally very good. It is a real shame when you get a lot of bad calls in a pro game.

In high school, the caliber of officiating is often not up to the caliber of play, particularily if your school is a small one playing in one of the lower classifications. I know of some very good coaches who quit coaching because they could no longer stomach the poor officiating they often got. When a coach has thoroughly scouted the opponent, developed a sound game plan, prepared his kids properly and seen them execute the plan to perfection only to have the game taken away by incompetent officils, it is devastating to both the kids and coaches. And, it is very difficult to explain to the kids. You hate to teach them that it is okay to blame a loss on the officials but sometimes there is no other explanation.

Just for the record, I have both coached and officiated high school ball.