Chat GPT

[ThanksForAllTheFish]

I remember trying to use Chat GPT a couple of months ago to write some ENF style naked in public stories, but it refused to do anything too exciting because of its content policy.

Today however I got it to write this, all on its own - I don't think it's too bad...

Helen was known among her friends as someone who loved to take risks and never backed down from a challenge. One summer evening, as they gathered at their favorite hangout spot, they decided to make a bet – the loser had to run naked down the main street of their small town.

The game they played was intense, and luck wasn't on Helen's side that night. She lost the bet, and as the realization sunk in, a mix of excitement and apprehension washed over her. She had always been daring, but running naked in public was a whole new level of audacity.

As the sun began to set, casting a warm glow over the town, Helen's friends reminded her of the bet and encouraged her to go through with it. They teased her, playfully calling her a chicken and saying she wouldn't have the nerve to do it.

[Remainder redacted. Please limit posting of text from unpublished work to 3 paragraphs or so. -AH Mod]

What do you guys think?

 

[Voboy]

awesome.

another AI thread.

I didn’t bother reading it, OP. I’m not impressed by that technology used for creative writing.

 

[MrPixel]

Seemed pretty dry to me, and overtly moralistic.

@Voboy , had you read it, you would have noticed the confirmation of your sentiment.

 

[ThanksForAllTheFish]

Seemed pretty dry to me, and overtly moralistic.

@Voboy , had you read it, you would have noticed the confirmation of your sentiment.

Yeah the attempt at getting a moral lesson in at every opportunity is amusing.

 

[Unblemished]

Not feeling it. Very much a The Cat Sat On The Mat sort of feel. I know it can be spiced up if you nag it enough and edit it, but at that point you might as well just write things yourself. At least you get intellectual property that way.

(and if you don’t want to write things yourself, what are you even doing?)

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

Don't feed AI anything. Ever.

 

[onehitwanda]

Don't feed AI anything. Ever.

what if we feed AI trolls?

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

what if we feed AI trolls?

No.

 

[onehitwanda]

No.

What if we feed Trolls AI?

 

[Bramblethorn]

What it's written here is more an outline than a story.

One summer evening, as they gathered at their favorite hangout spot, they decided to make a bet – the loser had to run naked down the main street of their small town. The game they played was intense, and luck wasn't on Helen's side that night. She lost the bet, and as the realization sunk in, a mix of excitement and apprehension washed over her. She had always been daring, but running naked in public was a whole new level of audacity. As the sun began to set, casting a warm glow over the town...

I've read human-written stories along similar lines; GPT would've been trained on them. The scene where they're playing the game, the interactions between players, the mounting tension as Helen realises she's about to lose - that's the heart of the story. Without that setup, without getting the readers to relate to Helen's feelings, it's hard to get interested in what happens next.

All GPT has to tell us is that "the game was intense" and that Helen was feeling "excitement and apprehension". It can't even be arsed to tell us where they're hanging out or what the game was.

It's a usable outline - how much of that outline is original is anybody's guess - but almost all of the work still needs doing.

Nitpick: it's already "evening" when they meet, but the sun doesn't "begin to set" until after they've had time for a game?

Reluctantly, Helen surrendered, wrapping herself in a nearby discarded coat one of her friends had brought for her.

Why a "discarded coat" instead of her own clothes, which it already told us she left with her friends?

Later that night, Helen's friends bailed her out, and she thanked them for their support. The entire experience was a lesson for her in thinking through the consequences of her actions and the importance of making responsible choices.

While she'd always cherish her adventurous spirit, Helen now knew that some dares were best left as playful banter among friends. From that day forward, she found other, more appropriate ways to channel her love for adventure, ensuring that her wild streak stayed within the bounds of safety and the law.

Leaving aside the tonal shift to weird moralising... once again, GPT has skimmed over the interesting parts.

The next day, Helen woke up with a renewed determination to get revenge on her friends for putting her through such an embarrassing ordeal. She was determined to teach them a lesson about the consequences of their dares. However, she wanted to do it in a playful and lighthearted way, just as they had intended the previous night.

As Helen plotted her payback, she remembered that her friends had planned a movie night at her place later in the evening. It was the perfect opportunity to even the score.

...wait, didn't it JUST TELL US that she'd learned the error of her ways? And now she's going right back into it.

Also, "later in the evening" implies it's already evening - but she's just woken up. Or did she spend the whole day plotting?

Her friend laughed nervously, but true to their agreement, they stripped down to their birthday suit before opening the door to the pizza delivery guy. The look of surprise and amusement on the delivery guy's face was priceless, and Helen's friend quickly grabbed the pizza, shutting the door with a blush.

As the rest of her friends arrived, they found themselves in the same situation. One by one, they took turns answering the door naked, much to their own embarrassment and the amusement of the pizza delivery guy.

This scene doesn't even make sense. Why is there a pizza guy there every time one of her friends arrives? Are they ordering one pizza to be delivered individually every time somebody new arrives?

I suspect what's happening here is that GPT has associated "people arrive one by one" with "person answers the door", and "person answers the door" with "pizza guy is there", and put those two together to create a scene where every time a new guest arrives, the pizza guy is there at the door. Which is a reasonable thing to do if you're a bot that doesn't actually understand what any of these words mean, but it's a bad look on a human writer.

Helen couldn't contain her laughter as her friends, who had dared her to streak in public, now experienced a taste of their own medicine. It wasn't about humiliation, but about highlighting the importance of thinking before daring someone to do something reckless.

It also doesn't work in terms of characterisation. Her friends already agreed to this, "thinking it could be a fun and silly addition to the movie night". There's no indication of why they've changed their mind about it. With Helen's own streaking, we had that - she actually did run into scary consequences - but there's nothing like that here. It writes as if they had encountered some kind of consequence, without giving us the consequence.

A good writer could salvage all these things, but I'm not seeing where it would be appreciably less work than writing it the old-fashioned way.

 

[Jmanchu]

There are ways to jailbreak Chat GPT and make it ignore its content policy. If you do it right, you can make it say some fucked up things and come up with fucked up stories. Honestly, I don't like the way ChatGPT pushes plots forward. Very sterile usually, or it requires cooking up prompts with a lot of wording to make it come up with a plot in the direction you want it to. In the end, it's just better to write it yourself.

I find it more useful for analyzing your stories and giving interesting perspectives, but I generally find Claude and Claude+ to be superior in that regard(GPT-4 is pretty good though), especially since they have a far bigger chat context token limit(100k) and it does a better job at just understanding the context of a story with interesting and helpful suggestions or analysis of plot and characters. The huge context token limit means you can post an entire novel pretty much. The problem with Claude though is jailbreaking it. You have to pretty much gaslight the fuck out of it and be a master manipulator to have a chance at making it analyze a story that is PG-13+, especially if there's any violence content, sexual content, or emotional trauma in the plot...

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

A good writer would have enough better ideas that they wouldn't bother with chat GPT

 

[Jmanchu]

A good writer would have enough better ideas that they wouldn't bother with chat GPT

True. But I think it's fun to mess around with ChatGPT, not stories in particular, just questions, jokes, trivia, research, or turning it into a coked up, paranoid Mr. T with anger issues. I've fucked around with ChatGPT out of boredom and curiosity for random stuff and I have tried, just for fun, to see what it says about stories or characters, or analyzing my stories for grammar, or to see what stories it can come up with off the most ridiculous and bizarre prompts I can come up with. ChatGPT is a fun tool to mess with.

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

Everything about the use of AI just reminds me of the one short story I read in middle school. It featured the painting machine that would paint pretty pictures for you and the children in the story were incredibly bored by it.

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

True. But I think it's fun to mess around with ChatGPT, not stories in particular, just questions, jokes, trivia, research, or turning it into a coked up, paranoid Mr. T with anger issues. I've fucked around with ChatGPT out of boredom and curiosity for random stuff and I have tried, just for fun, to see what it says about stories or characters, or analyzing my stories for grammar, or to see what stories it can come up with off the most ridiculous and bizarre prompts I can come up with. ChatGPT is a fun tool to mess with.

Don't have it grammar check. Everyone you have it read it saves and remembers.

 

[Voboy]

Don't have it grammar check. Everyone you have it read it saves and remembers.

This. It’s incredibly insidious.

Helping it get smarter is insanely stupid of us. Not as individuals, but as a culture.

 

[Jmanchu]

Don't have it grammar check. Everyone you have it read it saves and remembers.

You mean it's using me? Ohhh... shit. What if my writing's a bad influence on it? D:

 

[PrincessArianrhod]

The first thing that springs to mind is, it seems to not know what semi-colons are for and started at least one sentence with a conjunction. In terms of expression, it writes like its doing a High School essay.

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

You mean it's using me? Ohhh... shit. What if my writing's a bad influence on it? D:

It's using everyone that interacts with it. That much we know for sure.