Change in Writing Focus Re: BDSM

[Tatewaki]

Hello everyone;

I've always enjoyed reading stories of bondage and domination. However, in the last few weeks, my awareness of what BDSM really is has changed dramatically. So much so, that a lot of the work I previously enjoyed now seems quite childish and heavy handed. How anyone could even think of having sex after being worked over for an hour with a bullwhip is beyond me. Hell, the idea that anyone could use a bullwhip in a confined space now seems ludicrous. I guess with education and awareness comes a little bit of jading.

All that to say that the things I used to enjoy writing about and reading about have altered slightly. I now see the physical trappings of BDSM as only the icing for the cake which is the mental aspect. In some ways, I liked being sort of naive. I could find satisfaction and sexual gratification in some pretty cheesy literature! No so now ...

What am I driving at, you ask? Well, I've written my share of stories on the subject. Some passable, some downright awful. But none of them seem to have the ring of truth to them. None until Ember and Ashe Ch. 6 and Synder and Ashe Ch 1. With those two, I think I'm getting on track. In the Garden of Eve is also a tale I'm happy with, though it is pretty long.

I'm asking the people who frequent this Forum to have a gander at the stories and give me feedback. I'm most concerned with your initial feelings towards the work. Are they stories written by a fellow who "doesn't get it" or do they read as work by someone who understands what SSC means? Also curious about how the sex reads. I've written about acts that I've never personally done, or seen firsthand. Most of the info came from listening to other people talk about the subject. Did I make any grievous errors with the sex?

Funny, but since I've been dropping into this Forum, I've started feeling that I want to do right by you folks where my writing of BDSM activity is concerned. Too many skewed views out in the wild already. Don't want to add to the confusion.

Looking forward to hearing from some of you.

Warmest,

-T

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In the Garden of Eve
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=41823&page=1

Synder and Ashe Chapter 1 - "Prelude"
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=43973

Ember and Ashe, Chapter 6
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=39482&page=1

 

[Tatewaki]

My post has had seventy reads at the time of this reply but not one piece of feedback ... I certainly hope that my writing isn't that bad! I'll chalk it up to being Long Weekend Ennui.

Cheers!

-T

 

[cymbidia]

Hi Tatewaki - and what are we gonna call you for short? "T" has already long been taken by our dearly beloved SpectreT. Should we call you Tate? Ta? Waki? (Shades of Star Wars, that last one...)

Okay, now that nomenclature has been addressed...


I'd be glad to read your stuff when my life slows down somewhat. You might have noticed, however, that *many* of us here write stories and poems. Many of us have links to such scribblings in our sig line, and others of us have links at the end of the small www at the base of our posts.

Throughout Lit, there's a sort of symbiotic "you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours" system in place with regard to reading the work produced by others and providing them with feedback. Basically, you gotta give feedback to get it. This is just a soft and smiling tap on the shoulder for you around the subject, Tate. Uh, Waki. Ummm...Ta?

 

[Tatewaki]

Throughout Lit, there's a sort of symbiotic "you scratch my back and i'll scratch yours" system in place with regard to reading the work produced by others and providing them with feedback. Basically, you gotta give feedback to get it. This is just a soft and smiling tap on the shoulder for you around the subject, Tate. Uh, Waki. Ummm...Ta?

Thanks for the offer, Cymbidia. As for giving feedback, however, let me say that most of my 200+ posts didn't come from posting in the BDSM forum. I practically live in the Story Ideas Forum, and have posted more than my share of feedback both there and in dozens of PMs to various people.

Still, your point is a valid one. I should focus my attention on the authors of BDSM stories if its their opinions I want. So simple, and I didn't see it ...

As for what to call me, I'm sure someone will come up with something.

Cheers!

-T

 

[KillerMuffin]

The story ideas forum? Ouch. To each their own.

Feedback. Urgh. You won't get what you're looking for. The writers in this place are damned rude, for the most part. Some are positively fabulous, but most, well let's just not go there.

Go through and find the stories that you think jibe with your idea of what BDSM is all about, check to see who wrote them and if they post here. Build up a relationship, and then ask them to look your stories over. Have very specific questions in mind that are open ended but can be answered with a few or less sentences.

 

[KillerMuffin]

1) I'm not BDSM.
2) I didn't actually read that deeply, mostly skimmed.

You missed the point. There is one issue that is BDSM. It defines it, it permeates it, it is it. If you mentioned it, I missed it. Trust.

A good sub/dom thing has very strong ties to the very act of trust. BSDM pretty much transcends sex and moves right into an emotional level that most BDSM stories, including your own, never touch.

If there is no trust issues dealt with, then the BDSM story is a jerk story. You do have a pretty jerk story, all right. I'm sure BDSMers and those who pretend they are, liked it for it's imaginative sex and the overall lack of mechanical errors or stupid wannabe BDSM absurdities.

Start all over again with new characters, I'd say. Begin with the most basic and most essential essence of BDSM. Trust. All good BDSM stories are either the build of trust between sub/dom or the destruction of trust between sub/dom. The purpose of every single other part of it-- SSC, whips, chains, and anal plugs-- is to define and refine that trust.



Now this is where cym says, "Muffie. Shut up, you have no-o-o-o idea what you're talking about."

 

[Tatewaki]

Start all over again with new characters, I'd say. Begin with the most basic and most essential essence of BDSM. Trust. All good BDSM stories are either the build of trust between sub/dom or the destruction of trust between sub/dom. The purpose of every single other part of it-- SSC, whips, chains, and anal plugs-- is to define and refine that trust.

KillerMuffin,

That's the kind of feedback I've been looking for. I thought the trust was in there, but I can readily believe that it wasn't. Trust is the one virtue that I've in critically short supply. Been burned once too often. I'll never readily dole it out again. Perhaps some of this stinginess has found its way into my characters' attitudes? Who knows.

Trust, eh? Perhaps the next story I write will have my characters discover this elusive trait, and I can discover it right along with them. You've also given me my next line of questioning for the folks in the BDSM Forum! Thanks, KillerMuffin.

Warmest,

-T

 

[iamaddog]

story lines

Looking forward to hearing from some of you.

Warmest,

-T
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I am so sorry. personally, for me only,..didn't like your stories. a bit too...raw...for me. "I" like a little more softer language, and a little bit of a tease in it. draw up to a scene first, not just jump into it. ah well. don't worry. I'm no famous critic. just my own tastes. but I 'spose maybe for others they are quite fine.
not my level is all. no offense meant. ain't like I'm any writer of any kind.

but thanks for the chance to see 'em.

mad dog in iowa..

everyone be careful out there.

 

[Tatewaki]

Re: story lines

Looking forward to hearing from some of you.

Warmest,

-T
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I am so sorry. personally, for me only,..didn't like your stories. a bit too...raw...for me. "I" like a little more softer language, and a little bit of a tease in it.

No need to apologize. Taste is an individual thing.

-T

 

[cymbidia]

If there is no trust issues dealt with, then the BDSM story is a jerk story.

Yes!
Exactly!
Precisely!
Damn you're good for a nilla gal, Muffie.

Now this is where cym says, "Muffie. Shut up, you have no-o-o-o idea what you're talking about."

Muffie? You can spout off any ole time. You know a LOT more about our needs and motivations and characteristics and what makes a good BDSM relationship good and what makes one bad than many who profess to be BDSM. (...or not to be, that is the question. Whether tis nobler... ACK! I'm channeling the Bard! Too many boxes! Not enough blinds on the windows! ACK!)

Muffie?
You've done a thorough and intensive study of All Things BDSM for more than the last year. You've done a more thorough study than many who want to do it for real.

Relax, babykins.

Speak your piece in this forum. You may not be one of us, but you sure as hell can speak for us with more clarity and truth and honesty than many of manage on our own.

You're an Honorary BDSM'er, Muffie.

Speak on, darlin'.

 

[pierced_boy]

I liked the characters the way they were

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[Tatewaki]

Re: I liked the characters the way they were

I really like the characters the way they were. Please write the gap and keep the story going!

Thanks for the input, Harry. I've already posted E&A Ch. 5 to bridge the gap, and Ch. 7 is in final edit.

I will read your story shortly and post feedback. One good turn, and all that!

Regards,

-T

 

[Tatewaki]

Re: I liked the characters the way they were

PS I would be interested in any feedback anybody could give on my stuff. Click my profile to get there.

The only unsolicited feedback I have received was this annon on The Limit a BDSM tragedy.

Ask and you shall receive. I reviewed both your stories, and will send up PM shortly.

Regards,

-T

 

[pierced_boy]

Many Thanks

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[Tatewaki]

Re: Many Thanks

-T

Many thanks for the feedback. Well thought out and well received.


Thanks Harry

You are most welcome. I appreciated receiving your feedback as well.

Cheers!

-T