Can't we tell better stories than this?

Sex is always sordid to the people who are not involved in it. (involvment meaning doing it or watching it, or caring about the people one way or another)

You can bet it didn't feel sordid to the principles while it was happening!
 
Sex is always sordid to the people who are not involved in it. (involvment meaning doing it or watching it, or caring about the people one way or another)

You can bet it didn't feel sordid to the principles while it was happening!

Good point.
 
Good point.
I like to write that in to some of my stories; where the protags are so wrapped up in each other they hardly notice the less-than-optimal reactions to their public displays.

Meanwhile, someone across the room is saying; "They ain't all that."

I used that in Sarabande; To Stella, her lover Tracy is everything she ever wanted. His bandmates call him a "little high-yellow cocksucker," and wonder what the hell is wrong with her that she isn't fucking them instead...
 
Truth is supposed to be stranger than fiction, not more sordid.
Excuse me but I find this:
"I'm a Daddyfur and Caretaker and I am looking for a babyfur to be my mate and my companion in a long-term committed relationship," the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported Berlin’s solicitation said. He suggested the two could “yiff” at the boy’s home.
Rather sweet! I could write such a nice little BDSM-gay-May-December-fetish-romance from it..... :rose:
 
without googling, what does "YIFF" mean? I'm betting that the last three letters are In Fake Fur but the first letter ought to be an "F" as well...

Fiff.
 
without googling, what does "YIFF" mean? I'm betting that the last three letters are In Fake Fur but the first letter ought to be an "F" as well...

Fiff.

Yiff is onomatopoeia - the sound of a fox orgasming.
 
My bet is that the 'Y' stands for 'youngie'. If it stood for 'youngster' then the old chicken hawk is in for more trouble than he can even imagine.
 
All I know is what I saw on CSI......
 
All I know is what I saw on CSI......
Indeed. One of the better episodes written by Jerry Stahl (an amazing writer). From the Urban Dictionary:

1) (noun) Sound supposedly made by mating arctic foxes.
2) (acronym) (or more backronym) YIFF or Y. I. F. F. - "Young Incredibly Fuckable Furry"
3) (proper name) YIFF sound server. Program for Linux to help handle audio.
4) (noun) More or less (usually more) sexual act. Commonly used by furries, usually denotes standard intercourse but may denote any kind of sexual behaviour between any type and number of parties (imaginary anthro creatures, humans, animals, even inanimate objects like plushies). Antonym: Yerf.
5) (verb) Like in meaning 4, "to yiff".
6) Furry (or otherwise) artwork depicting yiff as in meaning 4.
7) Expression of joy (by furries)
8) Non-invasive question about sexual feelings/will to mate.

Note in all sexual meanings this has a very specific emotional background: It's neither considered vulgar (like "fuck" or technical (like "have intercourse") or emotion-less (like "make love"). It's playful, considering the act like something fun, nice, pleasant and not very important - without any special obligations attached to it. "Let's yiff" has about the same emotional background as "Let's play".

Ain't that cute!
 
Us hippies used to call that "balling." :cattail:


As of about 1913:-

"First you put your two knees close up tight
Then you sway them to the left, then you sway them to the right
Step around the floor kind of nice and light
Then you twist around and twist around with all your might,
Stretch your loving arms straight out into space,
Then you do the Eagle Rock with style and grace.
Swing your foot way 'round then bring it back.
Now that's what I call Ballin' the Jack."

So it wasn't anything gross (disgusting), though you can find later uses of the expression where it has a sexual meaning, similar to "balling" (having sex). For example, in the 1940s, blues artist Big Bill Broonzy sang:

My baby's coming home.
I hope that she won't fail because I feel so good, I feel so good.
You know I feel so good, feel like balling the jack.
 
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