can anyone explain....

[rydia57]

Hi,

I got a letter from "Hustler Fantasies" saying they needed stories and letters.... but I didn't understand this part. Can anyone explain it for me? English?
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Note: All Rights to manuscripts sent to Hustler Fantasies will be treated as unconditionally assigned for publication and copyright purposes and as subject to our edits and editorial comments.

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Does it have anything to do with them owning what I send them or me losing rights?

 

[~photoguy~]

Hi,

I got a letter from "Hustler Fantasies" saying they needed stories and letters.... but I didn't understand this part. Can anyone explain it for me? English?
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Note: All Rights to manuscripts sent to Hustler Fantasies will be treated as unconditionally assigned for publication and copyright purposes and as subject to our edits and editorial comments.

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Does it have anything to do with them owning what I send them or me losing rights?

once you send it to them ... its ALLL theirs to publish or edit or change in any way ...

 

[TheEarl]

It means that as soon as you send them, then can publish or not publish as and when they like. They can edit, change, or do anything to it. Copyright purposes will have to do with Hustler's specific code of conduct and rules and regulations, but I would imagine you'll be giving up your right to publish the story elsewhere if they do decide to publish you.

The Earl

 

[Rumple Foreskin]

Re: Re: can anyone explain....

once you send it to them ... its ALLL theirs to publish or edit or change in any way ...

Bruce nailed it. rydia, give him a big cigar. TheEarl gave you the long version, but he's also right (don't snigger, it happens). Better buy him a pint.

Rumple Foreskin

 

[carsonshepherd]

They own the story.

 

[Guest]

Penthouse Letters operates in the same fashion. I looked into them before posting stories on Lit. (I'm damn glad I read the fine print.)

DON'T SEND THEM ANYTHING!!!!

 

[Op_Cit]

This is where someone more desperate for feedback would put a shameless plug for an old story of theirs...

Anyway, yeah, what they all said... Are they paying for the stuff?

 

[cantdog]

What they're doing is buying the rights, including the right to edit however they like. For a Penthouse letter, what's the difference? For an article, a few columns of a newspaper, what earthly difficulty is there in that? You write to write, and you sell for money. They buy because they need words. A newspaper, a magazine, these things devour words by the thousands, by the tens of thousands. They are always voraciously seeking more words.

That's your market, as a writer.

Once they buy the words, they can crop them to fit, edit them for regionalisms or bowdlerize them. It's what they bought them for.

You do this sort of writing and grow a portfolio. Once you're established you can negotiate for more control, but what do you expect for a short piece in a periodical?

cantdog

 

[rydia57]

Great! So if they buy it, I'm out of a story, but hopefully, well I get the money.... but I hope they don't buy it. Well, I guess I had to learn somehow, huh? I'll ask you guys first next time. Thanks to all of you for the advice. Wonder if Stephen King started out with a mistake?

 

[TheEarl]

Great! So if they buy it, I'm out of a story, but hopefully, well I get the money.... but I hope they don't buy it. Well, I guess I had to learn somehow, huh? I'll ask you guys first next time. Thanks to all of you for the advice. Wonder if Stephen King started out with a mistake?

Rydia: I have to say I agree with cant. It's probably standard submission terms for a one-off piece to a big magazine. I think, if you want to get money from the craft, there are worse ways of getting publications on your cv.

The Earl

 

[Guest]

I didn't explain myself well enough in the previous post .

Penthouse was having a story contest.

Only the winner of the contest would receive money, but every other story sent in would automatically become the property of Penthouse Letters. You would automatically lose the rights to your work and they could do with it what they wished.

THAT's why I didn't bite.

But if they have offered you money, that's a different slant.

 

[NoJo]

But think how cool it would be to be published by them. I looked into playboy. They wanted a resume and the name of my agent. I felt like a real tyro.

 

[Guest]

 

[haldir]

hey sweetsub - if you want to do it go for it! mind you, posting here prob has more kudos

 

[rydia57]

What they're doing is buying the rights, including the right to edit however they like. For a Penthouse letter, what's the difference? For an article, a few columns of a newspaper, what earthly difficulty is there in that? You write to write, and you sell for money. They buy because they need words. A newspaper, a magazine, these things devour words by the thousands, by the tens of thousands. They are always voraciously seeking more words.

That's your market, as a writer.

Once they buy the words, they can crop them to fit, edit them for regionalisms or bowdlerize them. It's what they bought them for.

You do this sort of writing and grow a portfolio. Once you're established you can negotiate for more control, but what do you expect for a short piece in a periodical?

cantdog

bowdlerize?

Never heard that one before! So.... if they do buy it, I have to start somewhere.... that makes me feel a little bit better.

 

[cantdog]

You should look up bowdlerize in a good entomological dictionary. Bowdler was a Victorian. He produced editions of Shakespear and the Bible, to name the most infamous examples, with all the sexual and off-color parts removed or replaced with euphemisms. Victorians hardly even used the word leg! This sort of activity, rewriting to make something 'fit for the kiddies,' is called by that word in his memory.

 

[Amy Sweet]

Good luck!

Let us know how it turns out.

Maybe they will like it a lot and want you to write for them often. Who knows this could lead to a small but semi-steady amount of money trickling in from your writing.

Congratulations.

All the best.

 

[rydia57]

Just a tad scared I have done the wrong thing.... but hoo nose? I hope so too, so I bide my time and see if I get a reply at all. Seems magazines are funny about email. Thanks Amy!

 

[matriarch]

You should look up bowdlerize in a good entomological dictionary. Bowdler was a Victorian. He produced editions of Shakespear and the Bible, to name the most infamous examples, with all the sexual and off-color parts removed or replaced with euphemisms. Victorians hardly even used the word leg! This sort of activity, rewriting to make something 'fit for the kiddies,' is called by that word in his memory.

One of my favourite words, I love the sound of it, but its very difficult to draw into an every day conversation. *sigh*. I long for colourful and strange conversations........I guess that's why I come here.....

I can easily imagine you useing it, Cant. And Perdita. And Gauche. Yes, definitely an AH word.


Ooops, sorry Rydia, hijack over.

 

[Seattle Zack]

Yep, what they all said above. That contract gives them exclusive rights to do whatever they want with it, reprint it, edit it, include it in an anthology, whatever. If you sell a story like that, you just let it go.

But that's not all bad. Having a story published in a glossy mag is a pretty impressive addition to any writing portfolio.

Many sites and lesser mags buy "first publication" rights, which means the ownership of the story reverts back to you after they print it. Often, the contract requires you to give them a cut or a credit, however, if it's reprinted (in a "best of" anthology, for instance). Sometimes there's a time limit -- for instance, you may not be able to sell it to another publisher for a year.

Anyway, Hustler is a pretty respected brand in erotica and if you're looking to market more of your erotica, then having a story published by them is a definite bullet point. Hell, you can always write another story, right?

 

[Seattle Zack]

Off topic, but

Bowdlerize. Yes, I always loved that word too. Nothing like having your family name incorporated into the lexicon to cement your place in history.

Like Ruthian. Used more in sportswriting, I suppose.

I wonder if Bushism qualifies ......