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That's a lot of hair there!
Long as I can grow it my hair!
'Ere!
Long as I can grow it my hair!
'Ere!
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Good gawd that Iggy Pop thing is funny, but can you put it where it will stand out!
Did Cambodia Kerry get any 8mm footage of his walking on water in the Nam?
PS - I know what you mean about those guys and their stories.
Did Cambodia Kerry get any 8mm footage of his walking on water in the Nam?
PS - I know what you mean about those guys and their stories.
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J_CARVILLE said:Good gawd that Iggy Pop thing is funny, but can you put it where it will stand out!
Did Cambodia Kerry get any 8mm footage of his walking on water in the Nam?
PS - I know what you mean about those guys and their stories.
i loved the way they used gunbarrels as super hitters.
remember seeing that on the news.
my old man squirmed and my moms eyes lit up.
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I don't remember ANY such thing! 
I'll have to take your word on that one!
I'll have to take your word on that one!
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Quit Bogarting!
I'll go git my deer rifle...
I'll go git my deer rifle...
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I know what it's like to be shot at by the Khmer Rouge.
OHhhhhhhhhhh REEEE-ally...
OHhhhhhhhhhh REEEE-ally...
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Which one of you hyper-intelligent Liberals can tell me the year the Khmer Rouge became involved with our forces?
Hint: Kerry was LONG gone by then.
Question: How many times did Kerry ACTUALLY get shot at verses the number of times he CLAIMS to have been shot at?
Hint: Kerry was LONG gone by then.
Question: How many times did Kerry ACTUALLY get shot at verses the number of times he CLAIMS to have been shot at?
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Saturday, Aug. 14, 2004 10:56 a.m. EDT
Bosnia War Hero O'Grady: Kerry Committed Treason
Scott O'Grady, the Air Force pilot who captured headlines in 1995 when he survived being shot down over Bosnia, on Friday said Sen. John Kerry committed "treason" during the Vietnam War.
O'Grady, in an appearance with other military veterans coordinated by President Bush's re-election campaign, said Kerry helped push North Vietnam's proposals for the United States to withdraw at a time when the two countries were still officially at war.
"I see that as treason," said O'Grady, who lives in Texas and has been speaking at veterans events for Bush around the country. He's now retired from the military.
A Bush campaign spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt, said O'Grady's views were his own.
"The Bush-Cheney campaign does not and has not ever questioned John Kerry's patriotism," Schmitt said.
O'Grady said he was referring to Kerry's 1971 appearance before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. In response to a question about how he proposed to end the war, Kerry mentioned that he was involved in peace talks in Paris.
"I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government," Kerry told the panel, according to a transcript.
A U.S. law prohibits citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on matters such as peace treaties.
Earlier this year, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan told the Boston Globe that Kerry had "no role whatsoever in the Paris peace talks or negotiations." Meehan said Kerry had gone to Paris on a private trip and had one brief meeting with Madam Nguyen Thi Binh and others.
Binh, a leader of the Provisional Revolutionary Government, a communist group based in South Vietnam, had a list of peace-talk points, including the suggestion that U.S. POWs would be released when American forces withdrew.
On Friday, O'Grady asserted that Kerry had championed the proposals of the communist regime in North Vietnam about setting a date to withdraw U.S. troops - a situation O'Grady called "treasonous."
"That is my own personal opinion," he said.
Bosnia War Hero O'Grady: Kerry Committed Treason
Scott O'Grady, the Air Force pilot who captured headlines in 1995 when he survived being shot down over Bosnia, on Friday said Sen. John Kerry committed "treason" during the Vietnam War.
O'Grady, in an appearance with other military veterans coordinated by President Bush's re-election campaign, said Kerry helped push North Vietnam's proposals for the United States to withdraw at a time when the two countries were still officially at war.
"I see that as treason," said O'Grady, who lives in Texas and has been speaking at veterans events for Bush around the country. He's now retired from the military.
A Bush campaign spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt, said O'Grady's views were his own.
"The Bush-Cheney campaign does not and has not ever questioned John Kerry's patriotism," Schmitt said.
O'Grady said he was referring to Kerry's 1971 appearance before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. In response to a question about how he proposed to end the war, Kerry mentioned that he was involved in peace talks in Paris.
"I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government," Kerry told the panel, according to a transcript.
A U.S. law prohibits citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on matters such as peace treaties.
Earlier this year, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan told the Boston Globe that Kerry had "no role whatsoever in the Paris peace talks or negotiations." Meehan said Kerry had gone to Paris on a private trip and had one brief meeting with Madam Nguyen Thi Binh and others.
Binh, a leader of the Provisional Revolutionary Government, a communist group based in South Vietnam, had a list of peace-talk points, including the suggestion that U.S. POWs would be released when American forces withdrew.
On Friday, O'Grady asserted that Kerry had championed the proposals of the communist regime in North Vietnam about setting a date to withdraw U.S. troops - a situation O'Grady called "treasonous."
"That is my own personal opinion," he said.
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Now, compare what Kerry did in Viet Nam as opposed to what Bush did in Viet Nam.
Actually, it's kinda funny and involves the reason McCain and he don't get along...
page 7
http://worldtribune.com/worldtribune/toptease_8.html
Actually, it's kinda funny and involves the reason McCain and he don't get along...
page 7
http://worldtribune.com/worldtribune/toptease_8.html
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Sunday, Aug. 15, 2004 1:41 p.m. EDT
Kerry Made False Cambodia Claim 50 Times
It won't be all that easy for John Kerry to revise his demonstrably false claim that he spent Christmas 1968 in Cambodia, since he's on the record more than 50 times making the assertion, according to former Vietnam Swift Boat commander John O'Neill.
"There are more than 50 occasions on which he said he was in Cambodia on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in 1968," O'Neill told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg on Sunday. "More than 50 - as recently as last summer."
The Kerry campaign has commissioned presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley to adjust his Cambodia claims to make them comport with the known facts in an upcoming report in The New Yorker magazine.
But O'Neill said it will be hard to palm off Kerry's previous accounts as mere inadvertent misstatements.
"It wasn't some casual memory," he told Malzberg. "He said his entire life changed that evening, because he realized the United States government was operating illegally. ... He defamed everybody in our unit by claiming he had been illegally ordered there."
O'Neill said some of Kerry's 50 references to spending Christmas '68 in Cambodia include speeches on the Senate floor, quotes in articles and on-the-record interviews with reporters.
He cited a 1992 Associated Press report and a July 7, 2004, account by the Boston Globe's Michael Kranish.
"We were told, 'Just go up there and do your patrol,'" Kerry said in the 12-year-old AP interview. "Everybody was over there [in Cambodia]. Nobody thought twice about it."
In July 2004, reporter Kranish said that Kerry had told him his assignment in Cambodia was the catalyst that turned him against the war:
"[Kerry] himself would say that you really have to look at a lot of his thought process as what was happening during Vietnam," he told the Fox News Channel.
"And in one short anecdote I'll tell you, that in Christmas of 1968, he was on a small boat with his men, basically in Cambodia at a time when Richard Nixon was telling the American public that we're not in Cambodia," Kranish said. [Editor's note: Richard Nixon was not sworn in as president until Jan. 20, 1969.]
"And he basically became skeptical. Well, the government is saying this, but he knew himself that wasn't true. And it's also why he says he came back to protest the war that he had served in."
Kerry Made False Cambodia Claim 50 Times
It won't be all that easy for John Kerry to revise his demonstrably false claim that he spent Christmas 1968 in Cambodia, since he's on the record more than 50 times making the assertion, according to former Vietnam Swift Boat commander John O'Neill.
"There are more than 50 occasions on which he said he was in Cambodia on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day in 1968," O'Neill told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg on Sunday. "More than 50 - as recently as last summer."
The Kerry campaign has commissioned presidential biographer Douglas Brinkley to adjust his Cambodia claims to make them comport with the known facts in an upcoming report in The New Yorker magazine.
But O'Neill said it will be hard to palm off Kerry's previous accounts as mere inadvertent misstatements.
"It wasn't some casual memory," he told Malzberg. "He said his entire life changed that evening, because he realized the United States government was operating illegally. ... He defamed everybody in our unit by claiming he had been illegally ordered there."
O'Neill said some of Kerry's 50 references to spending Christmas '68 in Cambodia include speeches on the Senate floor, quotes in articles and on-the-record interviews with reporters.
He cited a 1992 Associated Press report and a July 7, 2004, account by the Boston Globe's Michael Kranish.
"We were told, 'Just go up there and do your patrol,'" Kerry said in the 12-year-old AP interview. "Everybody was over there [in Cambodia]. Nobody thought twice about it."
In July 2004, reporter Kranish said that Kerry had told him his assignment in Cambodia was the catalyst that turned him against the war:
"[Kerry] himself would say that you really have to look at a lot of his thought process as what was happening during Vietnam," he told the Fox News Channel.
"And in one short anecdote I'll tell you, that in Christmas of 1968, he was on a small boat with his men, basically in Cambodia at a time when Richard Nixon was telling the American public that we're not in Cambodia," Kranish said. [Editor's note: Richard Nixon was not sworn in as president until Jan. 20, 1969.]
"And he basically became skeptical. Well, the government is saying this, but he knew himself that wasn't true. And it's also why he says he came back to protest the war that he had served in."
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35 out of 40 replies here are from people that most would consider rightwing extremists...and 29 of THAT 35 was the author of the thread.
87% wingnuts....about par for a Kerry bashing thread, I'd say.
Face it, AJ, this story has no traction.
Time to move on to your next smear.
87% wingnuts....about par for a Kerry bashing thread, I'd say.
Face it, AJ, this story has no traction.
Time to move on to your next smear.
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Actually Throb, if ya'll had an answer to the question, or could refute the facts, ya'll would be busy shoving it down my throat and providing the links to once again, show that I AM the dumbest member of the board...
I notice YOU have no link or proof that what Kerry says is true.
He even got it wrong in his biography and is now trying to say it was in January...
After the 20th, we assume, lest he have to print YET ANOTHER CORRECTION to his "story." Actually, the word fable best suits his Cambodian exploits. The man is a complete flake!
I notice YOU have no link or proof that what Kerry says is true.
He even got it wrong in his biography and is now trying to say it was in January...
After the 20th, we assume, lest he have to print YET ANOTHER CORRECTION to his "story." Actually, the word fable best suits his Cambodian exploits. The man is a complete flake!
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A_Jacks said:
You seem fixated on whether Kerry was "in" Cambodia or "near" Cambodia.
I personally don't care.
And judging from the phenomenal lack of response to this post, even with you flogging the hell out of it, just about the entire GB feels the same way I do.
No traction, AJ.
Time to move on to your next Kerry smear.
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A question of Kerry's credibility
August 16, 2004
BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
Excerpts:
On Dec. 2, 1968, Lt. j.g. Kerry saw his first action aboard a small boat called a skimmer or Boston whaler, resulting in the first of three Purple Hearts. Two crewmen, among the veterans who stood with Kerry on the podium in Boston, say only three men were aboard. John O'Neill, Kerry's fellow officer, critic and co-author of the newly published Unfit for Command, contends a future admiral who is critical of Kerry also was on the boat.
How many men squeezed into the whaler may seem irrelevant to the dispute over Kerry's war record. But Washington super-lawyer Davis contends nobody in a boat with Kerry when he was wounded has joined veterans opposing him. He poses this as a test of whether O'Neill's book is a tissue of lies intended to destroy a presidential candidate.
Lanny Davis is a clever lawyer trying to reduce multiple charges against his client to one simple issue where, so far, he has the witnesses and his adversaries do not. Davis is also a decent human being who told me he thought he went over the line shouting at O'Neill and that ''there is a difference here of conceptions.'' That's better than simply crying liar in a fight John Kerry brought on himself.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak16.html
August 16, 2004
BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
Excerpts:
On Dec. 2, 1968, Lt. j.g. Kerry saw his first action aboard a small boat called a skimmer or Boston whaler, resulting in the first of three Purple Hearts. Two crewmen, among the veterans who stood with Kerry on the podium in Boston, say only three men were aboard. John O'Neill, Kerry's fellow officer, critic and co-author of the newly published Unfit for Command, contends a future admiral who is critical of Kerry also was on the boat.
How many men squeezed into the whaler may seem irrelevant to the dispute over Kerry's war record. But Washington super-lawyer Davis contends nobody in a boat with Kerry when he was wounded has joined veterans opposing him. He poses this as a test of whether O'Neill's book is a tissue of lies intended to destroy a presidential candidate.
Lanny Davis is a clever lawyer trying to reduce multiple charges against his client to one simple issue where, so far, he has the witnesses and his adversaries do not. Davis is also a decent human being who told me he thought he went over the line shouting at O'Neill and that ''there is a difference here of conceptions.'' That's better than simply crying liar in a fight John Kerry brought on himself.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak16.html
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It's not going away Throb...
It's going to get bigger this week.
Once the British Tabloids get going, the US Press will play me-to because of their flagging circulations.
You better come up with an explanation for Kerry's lie that has been repeated 50 times on Record.
Nixon was no more President than Clinton saw burning churches as a kid.
He's a flake.
It's going to get bigger this week.
Once the British Tabloids get going, the US Press will play me-to because of their flagging circulations.
You better come up with an explanation for Kerry's lie that has been repeated 50 times on Record.
Nixon was no more President than Clinton saw burning churches as a kid.
He's a flake.
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