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On March 27, 1986, Kerry told his fellow senators: "I remember Christmas of 1968, sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and the Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there, the troops were not in Cambodia.
"I have that memory, which is seared - seared - in me."
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"I have that memory, which is seared - seared - in me."
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"You know, I shot that guy," Bellodeau said, in response to an earlier Globe account that credited Kerry for his heroism.
"He jumped up, he looked right at me, I looked at him," the Kerry shipmate explained. "You could tell he was trying to decide whether to shoot or not. I expected the guy on Kerry's boat with the twin 50s to blast him, but he couldn't depress the guns far enough. We were up on the bank."
Only after the enemy soldier was wounded, said Bellodeau, did Kerry leap from the boat onto the beach and pursue him around the back of a nearby hut, where Kerry finished him off.
Bellodeau's account is particularly damaging because he was actually a member of Kerry's Swift Boat crew - the group of Vietnam veterans the Kerry campaign has repeatedly offered up to respond to criticism of his war record by other Swift Boaters who were on different boats.
Kerry's Silver Star citation credits him alone for taking down the Viet Cong soldier, making no mention whatsoever of Bellodeau.
"An enemy soldier sprang up from his position not 10 feet from Swift Boat 94 and fled," the combat award reads. "Without hesitation Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry leaped ashore, pursued the man behind a hootch and killed him, capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber."
And Kerry has done nothing to incorporate Bellodeau's role in subsequent accounts of the encounter with the enemy fighter.
In a 1996 interview, Kerry makes no mention of the first shot whatsoever.
"It was either going to be him or it was going to be us. It was that simple. I don't know why it wasn't us - I mean, to this day. He had a rocket pointed right at our boat. He stood up out of a hole, and none of us saw him until he was standing in front of us, aiming a rocket right at us, and, for whatever reason, he didn't pull the trigger - he turned and ran."
"He jumped up, he looked right at me, I looked at him," the Kerry shipmate explained. "You could tell he was trying to decide whether to shoot or not. I expected the guy on Kerry's boat with the twin 50s to blast him, but he couldn't depress the guns far enough. We were up on the bank."
Only after the enemy soldier was wounded, said Bellodeau, did Kerry leap from the boat onto the beach and pursue him around the back of a nearby hut, where Kerry finished him off.
Bellodeau's account is particularly damaging because he was actually a member of Kerry's Swift Boat crew - the group of Vietnam veterans the Kerry campaign has repeatedly offered up to respond to criticism of his war record by other Swift Boaters who were on different boats.
Kerry's Silver Star citation credits him alone for taking down the Viet Cong soldier, making no mention whatsoever of Bellodeau.
"An enemy soldier sprang up from his position not 10 feet from Swift Boat 94 and fled," the combat award reads. "Without hesitation Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry leaped ashore, pursued the man behind a hootch and killed him, capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber."
And Kerry has done nothing to incorporate Bellodeau's role in subsequent accounts of the encounter with the enemy fighter.
In a 1996 interview, Kerry makes no mention of the first shot whatsoever.
"It was either going to be him or it was going to be us. It was that simple. I don't know why it wasn't us - I mean, to this day. He had a rocket pointed right at our boat. He stood up out of a hole, and none of us saw him until he was standing in front of us, aiming a rocket right at us, and, for whatever reason, he didn't pull the trigger - he turned and ran."
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Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:33 p.m. EDT
Kerry Boasted to Vietnam Crewmates: I'll Be President
One of Sen. John Kerry's Vietnam Swift Boat mates said this week that the Massachusetts Democrat boasted during the war that one day he'd be president.
When his crewmates would get together and discuss their futures, Kerry Swift Boat mate Larry Thurlow recalled on Monday, "He would look people in the eye [and say], 'I'm gonna be the president of the United States.'"
Thurlow offered the revelation to radio host Sean Hannity, who pressed him on the circumstances of the Kerry boast.
"He said that to a very good friend of mine in the ward room who repeated it directly to me," Thurlow recalled. "And I know for a fact that it's true. He had said this to other people as well."
Thurlow is one of 11 of Kerry's crewmates who have complained that his campaign is using a photo of them implying they support his presidential bid, when six members of the group have publicly condemned Kerry as unfit to be commander in chief.
Calling themselves Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group issued an open letter last week calling on Kerry to stop the unauthorized use of their image in national campaign advertising.
Kerry Boasted to Vietnam Crewmates: I'll Be President
One of Sen. John Kerry's Vietnam Swift Boat mates said this week that the Massachusetts Democrat boasted during the war that one day he'd be president.
When his crewmates would get together and discuss their futures, Kerry Swift Boat mate Larry Thurlow recalled on Monday, "He would look people in the eye [and say], 'I'm gonna be the president of the United States.'"
Thurlow offered the revelation to radio host Sean Hannity, who pressed him on the circumstances of the Kerry boast.
"He said that to a very good friend of mine in the ward room who repeated it directly to me," Thurlow recalled. "And I know for a fact that it's true. He had said this to other people as well."
Thurlow is one of 11 of Kerry's crewmates who have complained that his campaign is using a photo of them implying they support his presidential bid, when six members of the group have publicly condemned Kerry as unfit to be commander in chief.
Calling themselves Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group issued an open letter last week calling on Kerry to stop the unauthorized use of their image in national campaign advertising.
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Kerry Boatmate: Vietnam Troubles Just Beginning
Sen. John Kerry's Monday morning meltdown on "Good Morning America" may be just the beginning of his troubles, according to one of his Vietnam boatmates, who is warning that more of the men who served alongside the Massachusetts Democrat are preparing to go public with their accounts.
Texas lawyer John O'Neill, who served on Kerry's Swift Boat after he left Vietnam just four months into his tour, told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg on Sunday: "I was in exactly the same unit. There were many people who were there simultaneously with him who are all about to speak."
O'Neill gained brief fame in 1971 when he debated Kerry on "The Dick Cavett Show" and forced him to admit he never personally witnessed the war crimes he'd been accusing U.S. troops of committing.
Though he's been contacted by Kerry's opponents every time the Massachusetts Democrat has run for office in the 33 years since, O'Neill has refused to speak out. Until now.
Referring to reports this week in the Boston Globe questioning whether Kerry may have exaggerated his combat record, O'Neill told Malzberg: "This is just the first opening. They'll be many different people. But I'd prefer to let the people who were actually there speak directly."
O'Neill cited a Jan. 29, 1969, firefight that Kerry claims on his campaign Web site he and his boatmates were in.
"But according to the Boston Globe," said the Swift Boat veteran: "Kerry was not even on the boat that night. The guy that was really on the boat was a fellow officer of ours named Ted Peck. He remembers well that fight because he was terribly wounded in three places."
"There was no Kerry anywhere around," O'Neill said. "And yet it appears on his Web site as some pitched battle that Kerry was involved in."
Noting that the Democratic presidential candidate has made his Vietnam war experience the centerpiece of every campaign for office, O'Neill complained: "It's [Kerry's] self-promotion that infuriates most of the people from his unit, who actually know what he did."
"He would be a terrible commander in chief of U.S. forces in the world at a time of crisis," the Kerry boatmate warned.
Kerry Boatmate: Vietnam Troubles Just Beginning
Sen. John Kerry's Monday morning meltdown on "Good Morning America" may be just the beginning of his troubles, according to one of his Vietnam boatmates, who is warning that more of the men who served alongside the Massachusetts Democrat are preparing to go public with their accounts.
Texas lawyer John O'Neill, who served on Kerry's Swift Boat after he left Vietnam just four months into his tour, told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg on Sunday: "I was in exactly the same unit. There were many people who were there simultaneously with him who are all about to speak."
O'Neill gained brief fame in 1971 when he debated Kerry on "The Dick Cavett Show" and forced him to admit he never personally witnessed the war crimes he'd been accusing U.S. troops of committing.
Though he's been contacted by Kerry's opponents every time the Massachusetts Democrat has run for office in the 33 years since, O'Neill has refused to speak out. Until now.
Referring to reports this week in the Boston Globe questioning whether Kerry may have exaggerated his combat record, O'Neill told Malzberg: "This is just the first opening. They'll be many different people. But I'd prefer to let the people who were actually there speak directly."
O'Neill cited a Jan. 29, 1969, firefight that Kerry claims on his campaign Web site he and his boatmates were in.
"But according to the Boston Globe," said the Swift Boat veteran: "Kerry was not even on the boat that night. The guy that was really on the boat was a fellow officer of ours named Ted Peck. He remembers well that fight because he was terribly wounded in three places."
"There was no Kerry anywhere around," O'Neill said. "And yet it appears on his Web site as some pitched battle that Kerry was involved in."
Noting that the Democratic presidential candidate has made his Vietnam war experience the centerpiece of every campaign for office, O'Neill complained: "It's [Kerry's] self-promotion that infuriates most of the people from his unit, who actually know what he did."
"He would be a terrible commander in chief of U.S. forces in the world at a time of crisis," the Kerry boatmate warned.
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Monday, April 19, 2004 1:09 a.m. EDT
Kerry Inflates Combat Action in 'Meet the Press' Account
In his account to "Tour of Duty" author Douglas Brinkley, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry described his first encounter with enemy forces in Vietnam as an inconsequential skirmish that "hardly qualified as combat."
But on Sunday's "Meet the Press," Kerry's recollection of the episode was far more dramatic, with the top Democrat saying the confrontation not only was "frightening" but also was probably the worst combat his unit had experienced during the entire war.
Defending himself against charges that he put in for a Purple Heart for a relatively minor flesh wound after the Dec. 2, 1968 skirmish, Kerry told NBC newsman Tim Russert:
"We were in combat. We were in a very, very - probably one of the most frightening - if you ask anybody who was with me, the two guys who were with me, was probably the most frightening night that they had that they were in Vietnam."
But in his account to biograpger Brinkley, Kerry dismissed the altercation as "a minor skirmish."
"It was a half-assed action that hardly qualified as combat," he confessed, in a discrepancy first reported Sunday by FreeRepublic.com.
"I felt terribly seasoned after this minor skirmish," Kerry continued to Brinkley. "But since I couldn't put my finger on what we had really accomplished or on what had happened, it was difficult to feel satisfied."
"Meet the Press" moderator Tim Russert was apparently unaware of the contradiction and did not question Kerry on his newly dramatized account.
Kerry's earlier, much tamer version of his first encounter with the enemy appears on pages 146 and 148 of "Tour of Duty."
Kerry Inflates Combat Action in 'Meet the Press' Account
In his account to "Tour of Duty" author Douglas Brinkley, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry described his first encounter with enemy forces in Vietnam as an inconsequential skirmish that "hardly qualified as combat."
But on Sunday's "Meet the Press," Kerry's recollection of the episode was far more dramatic, with the top Democrat saying the confrontation not only was "frightening" but also was probably the worst combat his unit had experienced during the entire war.
Defending himself against charges that he put in for a Purple Heart for a relatively minor flesh wound after the Dec. 2, 1968 skirmish, Kerry told NBC newsman Tim Russert:
"We were in combat. We were in a very, very - probably one of the most frightening - if you ask anybody who was with me, the two guys who were with me, was probably the most frightening night that they had that they were in Vietnam."
But in his account to biograpger Brinkley, Kerry dismissed the altercation as "a minor skirmish."
"It was a half-assed action that hardly qualified as combat," he confessed, in a discrepancy first reported Sunday by FreeRepublic.com.
"I felt terribly seasoned after this minor skirmish," Kerry continued to Brinkley. "But since I couldn't put my finger on what we had really accomplished or on what had happened, it was difficult to feel satisfied."
"Meet the Press" moderator Tim Russert was apparently unaware of the contradiction and did not question Kerry on his newly dramatized account.
Kerry's earlier, much tamer version of his first encounter with the enemy appears on pages 146 and 148 of "Tour of Duty."
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Monday, March 1, 2004
Vietnam Veterans Denounce 'Hanoi John'
Hundreds of U.S. Army veterans and Vietnamese escapees demonstrated Saturday outside John Kerry's campaign headquarters in Manhattan to protest his betrayal of them.
"Waving American and South Vietnamese flags and singing the U.S. national anthem, they held up signs saying 'Hanoi John,' and 'Kerry Betrayed Vietnam Vets'," Reuters reported.
It claimed there were only 200 protesters, but New York Newsday reported twice that number.
"We won't sit by and let the American people think that we are going to stand by somebody who stabbed us in the back," said Jerry Kiley, a veteran and one of the protest's organizers.
"He betrayed us. He stabbed us in the back. We will never allow him to be our commander-in-chief. Ever!" Kiley exclaimed to the crowd on Park Avenue.
"Veteran after veteran passionately lambasted Kerry," Newsday reported.
"Equally fervent in their disdain for Kerry were the Vietnamese-Americans, who hold the senator from Massachusetts responsible for thrice blocking a bill in 2001 and 2002 that would have tied U.S. aid to Vietnam to that country's human rights record."
Nam Pham, 48, a banker from Boston who is working with the Massachusetts Human Rights Commission for Vietnam, observed: "Sen. John Kerry has been working with the dictatorship in Vietnam. He lost the moral authority to lead the free world."
Vietnam Veterans Denounce 'Hanoi John'
Hundreds of U.S. Army veterans and Vietnamese escapees demonstrated Saturday outside John Kerry's campaign headquarters in Manhattan to protest his betrayal of them.
"Waving American and South Vietnamese flags and singing the U.S. national anthem, they held up signs saying 'Hanoi John,' and 'Kerry Betrayed Vietnam Vets'," Reuters reported.
It claimed there were only 200 protesters, but New York Newsday reported twice that number.
"We won't sit by and let the American people think that we are going to stand by somebody who stabbed us in the back," said Jerry Kiley, a veteran and one of the protest's organizers.
"He betrayed us. He stabbed us in the back. We will never allow him to be our commander-in-chief. Ever!" Kiley exclaimed to the crowd on Park Avenue.
"Veteran after veteran passionately lambasted Kerry," Newsday reported.
"Equally fervent in their disdain for Kerry were the Vietnamese-Americans, who hold the senator from Massachusetts responsible for thrice blocking a bill in 2001 and 2002 that would have tied U.S. aid to Vietnam to that country's human rights record."
Nam Pham, 48, a banker from Boston who is working with the Massachusetts Human Rights Commission for Vietnam, observed: "Sen. John Kerry has been working with the dictatorship in Vietnam. He lost the moral authority to lead the free world."
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Why Families Say Kerry Betrayed POWs and MIAs
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Friday, Feb. 13, 2004
Editor’s note: This is Part 1 in a series revealing the Democratic front-runner’s track record on the important issues of the day.
Putative presidential nominee Sen. John Forbes Kerry, D-Mass., began his involvement with the nation’s painful POW/MIA drama long before entering the hallowed halls of American political power.
In April 1971, when as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War he gave his infamous war-bashing testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry did not stop at declaring that he and many other veterans of that conflict were war criminals.
Pointedly, Kerry also insisted that the United States had a definite obligation to make extensive economic reparations to the people of Vietnam.
Specifically, the newly discharged Navy veteran was an advocate of the so-called “People’s Peace Treaty,” a tome reportedly drafted in communist East Germany. Its nine points closely followed the enemy Viet Cong’s proposals being touted at the Paris peace talks as a quid pro quo for ending the fighting.
What rankles many Vietnam veterans today is that Kerry’s blatant advocacy of the enemy's position occurred while hundreds of captured American fighting men suffered and languished as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons.
Keep the POWs Hostage
Until the Communists Get Their Way
A key provision of the enemy platform supported by Kerry:
“The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal [from Vietnam], they will enter discussion to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam.”
In the end, of course, the American leadership wanted nothing to do with a sham proposition that called for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Vietnam first, followed later by negotiations for the release of prisoners.
Some observers suggest that the perfidy of the youthful Kerry had not much tempered by the time, when as a U.S. senator, he was frocked as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs in 1992.
To many, Kerry's agenda as chairman appeared to be more about racing to the normalization of relations with Vietnam than ending the miseries of POW/MIA survivors thirsting for definitive answers as to what happened to their men.
Visiting Vietnam, Kerry repeatedly angered the homefolk by praising his former enemy for being open and reporting that he was convinced they were not holding American POWs.
In the end, Kerry and his committee determined in a 500-page final report that American POWs were left alive in Vietnam after the war but felt none were still alive. It made no attempt to identify those left behind, how they died, who killed them or where their remains might be located.
Many POW/MIA families simply didn’t believe him, and they were soon given more to ruminate on as to what could have driven Kerry to such unsatisfying and incomplete conclusions.
Multimillion-dollar Incentive to 'Reward Vietnam'
Shortly after Kerry declared to the world, “President Bush should reward Vietnam within a month for its increased cooperation in accounting for American MIAs,” Vietnam announced it had granted Colliers International, based in Boston, a contract worth millions.
Designating Colliers International as the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam, the communist regime positioned the company to rake in tens of millions of dollars in future contracts to upgrade Vietnam’s ports, railroads and other infrastructure.
C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive officer of Colliers International, is John Forbes Kerry’s cousin.
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Friday, Feb. 13, 2004
Editor’s note: This is Part 1 in a series revealing the Democratic front-runner’s track record on the important issues of the day.
Putative presidential nominee Sen. John Forbes Kerry, D-Mass., began his involvement with the nation’s painful POW/MIA drama long before entering the hallowed halls of American political power.
In April 1971, when as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War he gave his infamous war-bashing testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Kerry did not stop at declaring that he and many other veterans of that conflict were war criminals.
Pointedly, Kerry also insisted that the United States had a definite obligation to make extensive economic reparations to the people of Vietnam.
Specifically, the newly discharged Navy veteran was an advocate of the so-called “People’s Peace Treaty,” a tome reportedly drafted in communist East Germany. Its nine points closely followed the enemy Viet Cong’s proposals being touted at the Paris peace talks as a quid pro quo for ending the fighting.
What rankles many Vietnam veterans today is that Kerry’s blatant advocacy of the enemy's position occurred while hundreds of captured American fighting men suffered and languished as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons.
Keep the POWs Hostage
Until the Communists Get Their Way
A key provision of the enemy platform supported by Kerry:
“The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal [from Vietnam], they will enter discussion to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam.”
In the end, of course, the American leadership wanted nothing to do with a sham proposition that called for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Vietnam first, followed later by negotiations for the release of prisoners.
Some observers suggest that the perfidy of the youthful Kerry had not much tempered by the time, when as a U.S. senator, he was frocked as chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs in 1992.
To many, Kerry's agenda as chairman appeared to be more about racing to the normalization of relations with Vietnam than ending the miseries of POW/MIA survivors thirsting for definitive answers as to what happened to their men.
Visiting Vietnam, Kerry repeatedly angered the homefolk by praising his former enemy for being open and reporting that he was convinced they were not holding American POWs.
In the end, Kerry and his committee determined in a 500-page final report that American POWs were left alive in Vietnam after the war but felt none were still alive. It made no attempt to identify those left behind, how they died, who killed them or where their remains might be located.
Many POW/MIA families simply didn’t believe him, and they were soon given more to ruminate on as to what could have driven Kerry to such unsatisfying and incomplete conclusions.
Multimillion-dollar Incentive to 'Reward Vietnam'
Shortly after Kerry declared to the world, “President Bush should reward Vietnam within a month for its increased cooperation in accounting for American MIAs,” Vietnam announced it had granted Colliers International, based in Boston, a contract worth millions.
Designating Colliers International as the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam, the communist regime positioned the company to rake in tens of millions of dollars in future contracts to upgrade Vietnam’s ports, railroads and other infrastructure.
C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive officer of Colliers International, is John Forbes Kerry’s cousin.
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Wednesday, Feb. 4, 2004 11:26 a.m. EST
Kerry Angry at Bush for Making Vietnam an Issue
Sen. John Kerry and his media boosters are hoping bogus allegations that President Bush went AWOL from the National Guard will catapult him into the White House - but during the 1992 presidential campaign, Kerry angrily denounced Bush's father for raising Bill Clinton's Vietnam draft record.
In fact, back then, Kerry called those who wanted to make Vietnam service an issue "cowardly."
"I'm here personally to express my anger, as a veteran," Kerry told National Public Radio two months before the 1992 election, "that a president who would stand before this nation in his inaugural address and promise to put Vietnam behind us is now breaking yet another promise and trying to use Vietnam and service in order to get himself re-elected."
"That is not an act of leadership, that is an act of shame and cowardice," the Massachusetts Democrat railed.
In words that could now apply to his own presidential campaign, Kerry complained to reporters a month later that White House charges suggesting Clinton had gone AWOL from the draft were an ugly smear.
"It is a sad day when the president of the United States is willing to sully another man's reputation and challenge his patriotism merely to get elected," the current Democratic front-runner groused.
Tuesday night, Kerry pulled a 180-degree about-face on the issue of using a candidate's Vietnam-era military record, telling Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," "There is an issue about what [Bush's] service was - and I don't know the answers."
Saying he would defend Bush's decision to enlist in the Guard, Kerry rattled off a long list of Vietnam-era options that lumped Guard service in with draft-dodging.
"I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector [or] going into the National Guard," he told Sean Hannity. "Those are choices people make."
Kerry Angry at Bush for Making Vietnam an Issue
Sen. John Kerry and his media boosters are hoping bogus allegations that President Bush went AWOL from the National Guard will catapult him into the White House - but during the 1992 presidential campaign, Kerry angrily denounced Bush's father for raising Bill Clinton's Vietnam draft record.
In fact, back then, Kerry called those who wanted to make Vietnam service an issue "cowardly."
"I'm here personally to express my anger, as a veteran," Kerry told National Public Radio two months before the 1992 election, "that a president who would stand before this nation in his inaugural address and promise to put Vietnam behind us is now breaking yet another promise and trying to use Vietnam and service in order to get himself re-elected."
"That is not an act of leadership, that is an act of shame and cowardice," the Massachusetts Democrat railed.
In words that could now apply to his own presidential campaign, Kerry complained to reporters a month later that White House charges suggesting Clinton had gone AWOL from the draft were an ugly smear.
"It is a sad day when the president of the United States is willing to sully another man's reputation and challenge his patriotism merely to get elected," the current Democratic front-runner groused.
Tuesday night, Kerry pulled a 180-degree about-face on the issue of using a candidate's Vietnam-era military record, telling Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," "There is an issue about what [Bush's] service was - and I don't know the answers."
Saying he would defend Bush's decision to enlist in the Guard, Kerry rattled off a long list of Vietnam-era options that lumped Guard service in with draft-dodging.
"I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector [or] going into the National Guard," he told Sean Hannity. "Those are choices people make."
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REPORTING FOR DUTY!
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JANUARY -- NOT CHRISTMAS -- KERRY IN CAMBODIA
**Exclusive**
TOUR OF DUTY author and John Kerry historian Doug Brinkley is rushing a piece for the NEW YORKER: to set-the-record-straight on Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia tale, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
Kerry has turned to author Brinkley for a "modification" after it was exposed that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968, as he once claimed from the Senate floor.
The Brinkley piece for the NEW YORKER will now say that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas, but rather in January, publishing sources tell DRUDGE.
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Since the early 1970s, Kerry has spoken and written of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia. Kerry mentioned it in the floor of the Senate in 1986 when he charged that President Reagan’s actions in Central America were leading the U.S. in another Vietnam. Here’s what he said as excerpted from the new book, UNFIT FOR COMMAND:
"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me."
John O’Neil’s, author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, comments on the “clarification:”
“John Kerry describes Christmas Eve in Cambodia as a critical turning point in his life. We now know that his story is completely false. My question is how many people do you know have invented a turning point, one that is seared in his memory? While it makes sense for John Kerry to come clean about the Cambodia story, it is one of several tales that the Kerry campaign will have to face and clarify.”
“By claiming we were engaged in a war crime and crossing international borders, John Kerry damaged the credibility of all the commanding officers above him and insulted the sailors who served with him,” said John O’Neill, member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.”
**Exclusive**
TOUR OF DUTY author and John Kerry historian Doug Brinkley is rushing a piece for the NEW YORKER: to set-the-record-straight on Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia tale, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
Kerry has turned to author Brinkley for a "modification" after it was exposed that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968, as he once claimed from the Senate floor.
The Brinkley piece for the NEW YORKER will now say that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas, but rather in January, publishing sources tell DRUDGE.
MORE
Since the early 1970s, Kerry has spoken and written of how he was illegally ordered to enter Cambodia. Kerry mentioned it in the floor of the Senate in 1986 when he charged that President Reagan’s actions in Central America were leading the U.S. in another Vietnam. Here’s what he said as excerpted from the new book, UNFIT FOR COMMAND:
"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me."
John O’Neil’s, author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, comments on the “clarification:”
“John Kerry describes Christmas Eve in Cambodia as a critical turning point in his life. We now know that his story is completely false. My question is how many people do you know have invented a turning point, one that is seared in his memory? While it makes sense for John Kerry to come clean about the Cambodia story, it is one of several tales that the Kerry campaign will have to face and clarify.”
“By claiming we were engaged in a war crime and crossing international borders, John Kerry damaged the credibility of all the commanding officers above him and insulted the sailors who served with him,” said John O’Neill, member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.”
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So if Nixon was sworn in on, or about the 20th, he had TEN to TWELVE days to order Kerry into Cambodia...
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Irregarless of the accuracy of anything that's produced, the Kerry camp will divert attention and return to the old tactic of ,"what do you mean by "is"?
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Give it up.
Bush is a loser.
Kerry will be our next president, deal with it.
Bush is a loser.
Kerry will be our next president, deal with it.
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'68 Comeback Special
Kerry Camp Defends Tale of Xmas Mission to Island of Misfit Toys
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Washington, DC - Aides to presidential candidate John Kerry today dismissed as "obscene libel" and "preposterous lies" a new book that questions Kerry's service during the Vietnam War.
Written by a group of veterans who served with Kerry during his 4-month tour, "Misfit For Duty: John F. Kerry's Christmas Turkey" claims that Kerry embellished his war exploits, including a clandestine mission to the Arctic ocean on Christmas Eve 1968 to assassinate a rogue island of misfit toys.
Democratic spokesman Lanny Davis ripped the book as "unvarnished lies straight from Santa's North Pole sleaze workshop, dictated to a cabal of unhinged losers who represent a only a tiny majority of John Kerry's beloved Band of Brothers."
At Salon.com, Joe Conason also slammed the authors, writing that "I find it ludicrous that anyone would seriously believe anything a typical Vietnam vet psychopath would say about John Kerry."
Kerry campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill noted while the authors some may served with Kerry, none had been on his polar boat, and several were members of the Republican party.
"The fact that these men do not support John Kerry in the election, well, that pretty much sums up where they're coming from," says Cahill.
Despite threats of "legal action and/or incineration" from Kerry campaign lawyers, the book has risen to #1 on several online bookseller sites. Some analyst attribute its rapid sales to promotion on right-wing internet sites. Others point to billionaire Democratic financier George Soros, who yesterday announced a $5 million campaign to buy and burn the entire first printing.
Whatever the case, the book has sparked renewed controversy over the Vietnam war, and Kerry's part in it.
'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS
The harrowing story of a daring foray to the North Pole has long been a staple of Kerry's Vietnam biography. In 1970 as a 26-year-old veteran, Kerry testified to a Senate Committee that he and other US soldiers had participated in atrocities against indiginous Misfit Island toys, "including rape, torture, dismemberment, firecrackers, and other so-called 'reindeer games.'"
"Christmas '68, I remember it as if it were yesterday," Kerry is quoted in a 1985 interview with the Boston Globe. "There was Linus, and me, and Herbie the Elf, dodging tracer fire from reindeers and misfit toys alike, and unloading .50 caliber rounds into the Abominable Snowman. Herbie got taken out by AW fire from a spotted elephant. He was just a damned kid, who only wanted to get back stateside and study dentistry."
In the interview, Kerry said the episode scarred him, turning him against the war and for truth in government.
"It was completely surreal," recalled Kerry. "We we taking clay fire left and right, and styrofoam shrapnel, and meanwhile the President was all over CNN claiming we weren't even there. It was then I finally realized that Ronald Reagan's Vietnam adventure was nothing but a lie."
In a later recollection during a 1991 Senate floor speech denouncing the Gulf War, Kerry said he was recruited for the secret holiday mission during a Bob Hope USO Christmas special.
"Hope was Nixon's shadow CIA station chief in Saigon," said Kerry. "During a skit with Phyllis Diller, he blinked a morse code message that I was to take his covert bikini go-go girl assassination squad to the Arctic to take out the a nest of Khmer Blanc."
The illegal mission was "seared, seared into my memory," said Kerry, who used it as an example of how war corrupts government officials.
"There I was, strafing helpless misfit toys with Joey Heatherton, Jill St. John, Lola Falana and Raquel Welch," said Kerry. "Our fire dispersed the insurgents, and I could have shot several of the fleeing toys in the back, but I didn't. Down in Saigon they say, my small heart grew three sizes that day."
In a 2003 Washington Post profile, Kerry even displayed a souvenir from the mission.
"Who told you about this? Even my friends don't know about it," said Kerry, pulling a musty fur bikini top from a secret compartment in his attache case. Kerry said it was "a good luck charm" given to him by covert CIA agent Nancy Sinatra.
Putting on the bra, Kerry formed his hands into pantomime guns.
"Pow! Kapow! k-k-k-k-brrrudda brrrudda shpeww!" he added, blowing imaginary smoke from his fingertips.
In his recent biography A John Kerry Christmas, the candidate seemed to back off his earlier claims, saying that he and his crew were only "near the Arctic." However, he provided biographer Douglas Brinkley additional background details of the mission.
"I can only speculate why Bob Hope recruited me," said Kerry. "I know he was concerned that his ex-partner Bing Crosby had been 'flipped' by Viet Cong agent David Bowie when they taped that 'Little Drummer Boy' duet."
After returning from the mission, Kerry told Brinkley that Hope offered him a co-starring role in the secret CIA musical comedy 'Road to Cambodia,' but he was determined by then to speak out against the war.
"There must have been some magic in that old Vietnamese silk hat I found," said Kerry. "For when I put it on my head I began to change around."
NAUGHTY OR NICE?
In stark contrast to his personal recollections of the mission, the authors of "Misfit For Duty" maintain that neither Kerry's crew, nor Nancy Sinatra, can recall having ever been to the Arctic. The authors also claim that Kerry's Swift Boat would have neither the fuel nor speed to travel 11,000 nautical miles to the Arctic Sea in one night, and that its aluminum hull would not have been able to penetrate the thick December ice pack. The book also cites official Navy logs that place Kerry in a safe billet that night, and notes several studies that question the existence of Santa Claus, a key component of Kerry's CIA mission story.
While maintaining the charges "did not merit a response," Kerry campaign manager Cahill refered reporters to the landmark 1946 case of Gimbel v. Kringle.
"If the GOP's hatchetmen want to argue before the American people that there is no Santa Claus, I say bring it on," said Cahill, who added that Kerry's story was "fully verified" by the late Burl Ives in 1971.
As of posting time, the sharply conflicting accounts were drawing the increasing scrutiny of the press. All major news networks have announced major psychiatric investigations of the book's authors, as well as their religious affiliations, drinking habits, links to the Republican Party, Rupert Murdock, the Illuminati, and the Rotary Club.
"It's time we get to the bottom of why these so-called 'war heroes' would make such unbelievable, scurrilous allegations of a war hero," said ABC Nightline correspondent Jake Tapper.
"They say the first casualty of war is truth," he noted. "What kind of ghouls go around parading the corpse?"
Kerry Camp Defends Tale of Xmas Mission to Island of Misfit Toys
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John Kerry campaigns with an unidentified member of his Band of Brothers. Photo: Allahpundit
Washington, DC - Aides to presidential candidate John Kerry today dismissed as "obscene libel" and "preposterous lies" a new book that questions Kerry's service during the Vietnam War.
Written by a group of veterans who served with Kerry during his 4-month tour, "Misfit For Duty: John F. Kerry's Christmas Turkey" claims that Kerry embellished his war exploits, including a clandestine mission to the Arctic ocean on Christmas Eve 1968 to assassinate a rogue island of misfit toys.
Democratic spokesman Lanny Davis ripped the book as "unvarnished lies straight from Santa's North Pole sleaze workshop, dictated to a cabal of unhinged losers who represent a only a tiny majority of John Kerry's beloved Band of Brothers."
At Salon.com, Joe Conason also slammed the authors, writing that "I find it ludicrous that anyone would seriously believe anything a typical Vietnam vet psychopath would say about John Kerry."
Kerry campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill noted while the authors some may served with Kerry, none had been on his polar boat, and several were members of the Republican party.
"The fact that these men do not support John Kerry in the election, well, that pretty much sums up where they're coming from," says Cahill.
Despite threats of "legal action and/or incineration" from Kerry campaign lawyers, the book has risen to #1 on several online bookseller sites. Some analyst attribute its rapid sales to promotion on right-wing internet sites. Others point to billionaire Democratic financier George Soros, who yesterday announced a $5 million campaign to buy and burn the entire first printing.
Whatever the case, the book has sparked renewed controversy over the Vietnam war, and Kerry's part in it.
'TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS
The harrowing story of a daring foray to the North Pole has long been a staple of Kerry's Vietnam biography. In 1970 as a 26-year-old veteran, Kerry testified to a Senate Committee that he and other US soldiers had participated in atrocities against indiginous Misfit Island toys, "including rape, torture, dismemberment, firecrackers, and other so-called 'reindeer games.'"
"Christmas '68, I remember it as if it were yesterday," Kerry is quoted in a 1985 interview with the Boston Globe. "There was Linus, and me, and Herbie the Elf, dodging tracer fire from reindeers and misfit toys alike, and unloading .50 caliber rounds into the Abominable Snowman. Herbie got taken out by AW fire from a spotted elephant. He was just a damned kid, who only wanted to get back stateside and study dentistry."
In the interview, Kerry said the episode scarred him, turning him against the war and for truth in government.
"It was completely surreal," recalled Kerry. "We we taking clay fire left and right, and styrofoam shrapnel, and meanwhile the President was all over CNN claiming we weren't even there. It was then I finally realized that Ronald Reagan's Vietnam adventure was nothing but a lie."
In a later recollection during a 1991 Senate floor speech denouncing the Gulf War, Kerry said he was recruited for the secret holiday mission during a Bob Hope USO Christmas special.
"Hope was Nixon's shadow CIA station chief in Saigon," said Kerry. "During a skit with Phyllis Diller, he blinked a morse code message that I was to take his covert bikini go-go girl assassination squad to the Arctic to take out the a nest of Khmer Blanc."
The illegal mission was "seared, seared into my memory," said Kerry, who used it as an example of how war corrupts government officials.
"There I was, strafing helpless misfit toys with Joey Heatherton, Jill St. John, Lola Falana and Raquel Welch," said Kerry. "Our fire dispersed the insurgents, and I could have shot several of the fleeing toys in the back, but I didn't. Down in Saigon they say, my small heart grew three sizes that day."
In a 2003 Washington Post profile, Kerry even displayed a souvenir from the mission.
"Who told you about this? Even my friends don't know about it," said Kerry, pulling a musty fur bikini top from a secret compartment in his attache case. Kerry said it was "a good luck charm" given to him by covert CIA agent Nancy Sinatra.
Putting on the bra, Kerry formed his hands into pantomime guns.
"Pow! Kapow! k-k-k-k-brrrudda brrrudda shpeww!" he added, blowing imaginary smoke from his fingertips.
In his recent biography A John Kerry Christmas, the candidate seemed to back off his earlier claims, saying that he and his crew were only "near the Arctic." However, he provided biographer Douglas Brinkley additional background details of the mission.
"I can only speculate why Bob Hope recruited me," said Kerry. "I know he was concerned that his ex-partner Bing Crosby had been 'flipped' by Viet Cong agent David Bowie when they taped that 'Little Drummer Boy' duet."
After returning from the mission, Kerry told Brinkley that Hope offered him a co-starring role in the secret CIA musical comedy 'Road to Cambodia,' but he was determined by then to speak out against the war.
"There must have been some magic in that old Vietnamese silk hat I found," said Kerry. "For when I put it on my head I began to change around."
NAUGHTY OR NICE?
In stark contrast to his personal recollections of the mission, the authors of "Misfit For Duty" maintain that neither Kerry's crew, nor Nancy Sinatra, can recall having ever been to the Arctic. The authors also claim that Kerry's Swift Boat would have neither the fuel nor speed to travel 11,000 nautical miles to the Arctic Sea in one night, and that its aluminum hull would not have been able to penetrate the thick December ice pack. The book also cites official Navy logs that place Kerry in a safe billet that night, and notes several studies that question the existence of Santa Claus, a key component of Kerry's CIA mission story.
While maintaining the charges "did not merit a response," Kerry campaign manager Cahill refered reporters to the landmark 1946 case of Gimbel v. Kringle.
"If the GOP's hatchetmen want to argue before the American people that there is no Santa Claus, I say bring it on," said Cahill, who added that Kerry's story was "fully verified" by the late Burl Ives in 1971.
As of posting time, the sharply conflicting accounts were drawing the increasing scrutiny of the press. All major news networks have announced major psychiatric investigations of the book's authors, as well as their religious affiliations, drinking habits, links to the Republican Party, Rupert Murdock, the Illuminati, and the Rotary Club.
"It's time we get to the bottom of why these so-called 'war heroes' would make such unbelievable, scurrilous allegations of a war hero," said ABC Nightline correspondent Jake Tapper.
"They say the first casualty of war is truth," he noted. "What kind of ghouls go around parading the corpse?"
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Americans dont care about honesty, they are used to lying politicians.
Besides, his lies dont mean anything, they are from 30 yrs ago.
Bush LIED
people DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bush is making life stressful for us, Kerry will bring back stability and peace, which will you choose?
Besides, his lies dont mean anything, they are from 30 yrs ago.
Bush LIED
people DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bush is making life stressful for us, Kerry will bring back stability and peace, which will you choose?
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By now, the Forbes Kerry Krowd should be good at bashing the veterans of VIetnam. They've been doing it for 30 years now, they should have it down cold!
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That was kinda funny, BB, but so true...
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Where are the John Forbes Kerry supporters with their links to prove these charges false?
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my 7th grade buddy had an older bro who tromped thru Cambodia on the mission to cut off the trail, made it out alive and came back with this mindfucking herb. Us kids asked him all kinds of questions but he clammed up on the war bit and said "put on another record boy, here have another toke of this shit"
he never mentioned anybody named Kerry.
He runs a Coca Cola whloesale shop now-socal- still clammed up.
he never mentioned anybody named Kerry.
He runs a Coca Cola whloesale shop now-socal- still clammed up.
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lol - this thread could use some comedy other than the antics of ol' Collier Kerry...
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John O’Neil’s, author of UNFIT FOR COMMAND, comments on the “clarification:”
“John Kerry describes Christmas Eve in Cambodia as a critical turning point in his life. We now know that his story is completely false. My question is how many people do you know have invented a turning point, one that is seared in his memory? While it makes sense for John Kerry to come clean about the Cambodia story, it is one of several tales that the Kerry campaign will have to face and clarify.”
“By claiming we were engaged in a war crime and crossing international borders, John Kerry damaged the credibility of all the commanding officers above him and insulted the sailors who served with him,” said John O’Neill, member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.”
JOHN O'NEIL IS A DEMOCRAT!
He tried to warn the Party, but they put him on Iggy...
“John Kerry describes Christmas Eve in Cambodia as a critical turning point in his life. We now know that his story is completely false. My question is how many people do you know have invented a turning point, one that is seared in his memory? While it makes sense for John Kerry to come clean about the Cambodia story, it is one of several tales that the Kerry campaign will have to face and clarify.”
“By claiming we were engaged in a war crime and crossing international borders, John Kerry damaged the credibility of all the commanding officers above him and insulted the sailors who served with him,” said John O’Neill, member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.”
JOHN O'NEIL IS A DEMOCRAT!
He tried to warn the Party, but they put him on Iggy...
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