Calling Realists, any Realists?...Nope, didnt think so

Just so every other realist understands YOUR sense of reality, let's 1st-post this with YOUR comment from the other thread:
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4laterer said:
the way I was brought up, it was ok for a girl to be raped if she misbehaved

are you all saying thats wrong?
 
I read your posts. I apologize that I took you the wrong way, but the way you worded it, it did not sound like this was what you were addressing. Of course there are appropriate standards for certain settings, and to complain that one is treated differently because they dress outside this "norm", but the issue was whether or not she was asking to be raped.

Realistically, you interpreted the question slightly differently than the rest of us did. Your point was well taken, but slightly askew from the question.
 
ProofreadManx said:
Just so every other realist understands YOUR sense of reality, let's 1st-post this with YOUR comment from the other thread:
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Reality bites.
 
Yes, sometimes, there are steps a gal can take tp prevent the attention of a potential rapist. Even then, it isn't fool proof.


Just as there are steps I cna take to avoid having my house buirglarized. If I have a security system, lock up everything of value and so on...

If someone breaks in anyway, was I asking for it?

No.
 
The thing is, most rape isn't about sex - it's a power issue. So whether she's wearing a short skirt and see thru top - or dressed head to toe in a snowmobile suit, if the man has rape on his mind there ain't alot of hope for her.

Having said that, placing yourself into certain situations can lead to trouble - so women need to be always aware of that as well. Getting drunk, and passing out in a room full of drunken guys could create a problem - so dont' do it. Wearing provocative clothing, sashaying around a bar and swapping spit with half the guys in a place does send out a message - whether you like it or not - so if a female doesn't want that message sent, they best not behave that way.

It's really splitting hairs - is it actually rape, or taking what one thinks has been offered? either way it's rape, just with different undertones.
 
4laterer said:

I'm not saying they're deserving of rape, but I'm saying that whether or not they like it, and irrespective of what their intentions are, theyre giving accross that message


As others have said, your argument is fundamentally flawed at the point above.

If I enter a bar with a wad of 100's in my pocket, it doesn't mean I'm begging to be robbed...even if I wave them around.

People might say "he deserved to get mugged the way he was flashing his cash"...but flashing your cash...or your ass...doesn't obviate your responsibilty not to rob, or rape.

Dig?
 
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