Calling all BBW's

[shadowdame]

I'm doing ok....

I hear you. *hugs*

 

[keiffers]

Hell no! If my kids were sick I just called out and that was the end of that!

i totally agree - I don't have kids but there were alot of pissed off people that hated that rule.....it was instituted cause people abused it and used up all their personal time (2wks per year) by the middle of february....yeah it's your time to use, but they just abused it and ruined it for everyone else

 

[LittleLadyLove]

well I was in a support position so I can understand why the had to measure how long you took, but geez they need to chill out and understand that not everyone can do their business in :15 mins.....atleast they don't expect 48hrs notice to take personal time off (yeah even for people with kids they wanted 48hrs notice before you could take a personal day - tell your kids that they must give notice before getting sick)

true, very true.... and vacation time was if you didn't have the job done, well then forget about taking your vacation until it was completed, which sucked. Thanks goodness, I don't work there anymore.

 

[keiffers]

true, very true.... and vacation time was if you didn't have the job done, well then forget about taking your vacation until it was completed, which sucked. Thanks goodness, I don't work there anymore.

the thing is though that there will always be people around to abuse the priviledges that they are given when they are hired. IT just blows me away that I got laid off yet people who jerked the system and did all kinds of bad sh*t are still there.....they punished the decent people and reward the idiots (just cause some girl blew the boss int he parking lot LOL)

 

[Gypsybyrd]

So why don't they just subcontract the position and hire you through an agency so that you aren't really their employee? That's how I worked for three years for the company I was with. They would occasionally switch subcontract companies and tell all of us to go fill out the paperwork to work through the new company. Just GREAT for employee morale.

Or ... I have a friend doing this ... become an independent contractor? That way you aren't an employee & the company benefits & so do you...

 

[Gypsybyrd]

Yeah, but I hate to jump around. I figure to give it one or two school years then decide based on whether things have improved or not.

Maybe they are just warming up ... good luck ...

 

[shadowdame]

the thing is though that there will always be people around to abuse the priviledges that they are given when they are hired. IT just blows me away that I got laid off yet people who jerked the system and did all kinds of bad sh*t are still there.....they punished the decent people and reward the idiots (just cause some girl blew the boss int he parking lot LOL)

I guess that is just the way the balls, um ball bounces

 

[MagicaPractica]

Or ... I have a friend doing this ... become an independent contractor? That way you aren't an employee & the company benefits & so do you...

Yes but I fail to see how the employee benefits other than you get to keep your job. The real employees have WAY better benefits. I was able to buy health insurance through my subcontract company but I paid all of it so it was about 300 a month. You can work up to having time off but there's no vacation time other than the standard holidays. It is better than some jobs but not as good as being a real employee of the company.

 

[Gypsybyrd]

i totally agree - I don't have kids but there were alot of pissed off people that hated that rule.....it was instituted cause people abused it and used up all their personal time (2wks per year) by the middle of february....yeah it's your time to use, but they just abused it and ruined it for everyone else

then those people should be 'punished' not everybody else ... but then I believe in personal responsibility. There are ways for companies to deal with disciplinary issues without affecting EVERYBODY

 

[keiffers]

So why don't they just subcontract the position and hire you through an agency so that you aren't really their employee? That's how I worked for three years for the company I was with. They would occasionally switch subcontract companies and tell all of us to go fill out the paperwork to work through the new company. Just GREAT for employee morale.

well the govt still controls how long you can work at that location....gotta love labor laws. I used to work for a contractor years ago but they've changed the rules since then. My company doesn't really use subcontractors and the temp positions are mostly used in the sales group....although they show up in other areas...its fun sometimes cause my paperwork is geared towards sales people and I have to ignore certain parts cause it doesn't apply to me LOL

 

[Gypsybyrd]

I'm doing ok....

And your mom? You able to visit her yet?

 

[shadowdame]

then those people should be 'punished' not everybody else ... but then I believe in personal responsibility. There are ways for companies to deal with disciplinary issues without affecting EVERYBODY

Of course there are ways, but it's easier to make new rules across the board then deal with those that ruin it all for everyone else.

 

[Gypsybyrd]

Yes but I fail to see how the employee benefits other than you get to keep your job. The real employees have WAY better benefits. I was able to buy health insurance through my subcontract company but I paid all of it so it was about 300 a month. You can work up to having time off but there's no vacation time other than the standard holidays. It is better than some jobs but not as good as being a real employee of the company.

The main benefit I could see would be higher pay ... in a trade for no benefits ... and there is something to be said for having a job ... even without benefits

 

[Gypsybyrd]

Of course there are ways, but it's easier to make new rules across the board then deal with those that ruin it all for everyone else.

Very true ... like the 'no inter-office relationship' rules ... I got into a debate with a friend about that not too long ago ...

 

[MagicaPractica]

The main benefit I could see would be higher pay ... in a trade for no benefits ... and there is something to be said for having a job ... even without benefits

I could understand it if you had higher pay but I did not. It was just that you got to keep the job. It was a good job though with a great group of people. I was sad to leave it.

 

[shadowdame]

Very true ... like the 'no inter-office relationship' rules ... I got into a debate with a friend about that not too long ago ...

Inter-office relationship are just bad period! There are always problems.

 

[keiffers]

Of course there are ways, but it's easier to make new rules across the board then deal with those that ruin it all for everyone else.

but think about it, without rules, a job would be a madhouse cause no one would show up when they're supposed to, they'd just expect a check. that would be nice and all but that's not very good for the business.....

think about it, rules are meant to be broken, so there will always be sex in the conference rooms, people constantly showing up late, etc - it just depends on if they get caught or not

 

[rab302]

Very true ... like the 'no inter-office relationship' rules ... I got into a debate with a friend about that not too long ago ...

Would that apply to "hit it and quit it" office romances also?

 

[keiffers]

Inter-office relationship are just bad period! There are always problems.

so true - I refused to date anyone I meet at work, cause if anything goes bad you still have to face that person at work.....or see their name somewhere on business paperwork.....there are alot of very attractive women where I work, but I leave it at looking only lol

 

[shadowdame]

but think about it, without rules, a job would be a madhouse cause no one would show up when they're supposed to, they'd just expect a check. that would be nice and all but that's not very good for the business.....

think about it, rules are meant to be broken, so there will always be sex in the conference rooms, people constantly showing up late, etc - it just depends on if they get caught or not

all too true, there should be rules, but without them being enforced what do they matter? that's why people get away with breaking them.

 

[MagicaPractica]

well the govt still controls how long you can work at that location....gotta love labor laws. I used to work for a contractor years ago but they've changed the rules since then. My company doesn't really use subcontractors and the temp positions are mostly used in the sales group....although they show up in other areas...its fun sometimes cause my paperwork is geared towards sales people and I have to ignore certain parts cause it doesn't apply to me LOL

Huh, I worked through the same company for three years at the same site. I wonder if they were ignoring some laws.

 

[shadowdame]

so true - I refused to date anyone I meet at work, cause if anything goes bad you still have to face that person at work.....or see their name somewhere on business paperwork.....there are alot of very attractive women where I work, but I leave it at looking only lol

That is probably for the best.

 

[keiffers]

all too true, there should be rules, but without them being enforced what do they matter? that's why people get away with breaking them.

its not that they aren't enforced, they're just not enforced for everyone...I know of quite a number of people who got their position not on merit, but rather on other things......one of them suddenly showed up with a boob job and a manager position.....we often wonder how many bjs she gave before she moved forward

 

[Gypsybyrd]

Inter-office relationship are just bad period! There are always problems.

Well ... yes, I agree. However, it should be up to the individuals involved ... employees are supposed to be adults. If the aftermath affects the job ... then there are other ways to deal with it.

I guess I might be a bit of a romantic ... I'd hate to see 2 people who belong together hung up b/c they work together.

And yes ... I am a bit naive (niave?) ...

 

[shadowdame]

its not that they aren't enforced, they're just not enforced for everyone...I know of quite a number of people who got their position not on merit, but rather on other things......one of them suddenly showed up with a boob job and a manager position.....we often wonder how many bjs she gave before she moved forward

LOL only she and the "man" knows. and i know all about rules being selectively enforced. I see it in my office every day.