Buffy: Countdown to the Apocalypse
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Cibo said:
Wow...You're...um..Behind. Lot's, actually. Buffy's mom died. Buffy died. Buffy has a sister now, through mystical means. Cordelia was a demon, is now a higher power. Xander got engaged to a vengeance demon then left her at the alter. Willow turned out to be the Biggest Bad of them all.
I'd go into detail, but you probably wouldn't read it.
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Cibo said:
Well, Spike was captured by a shadow military group and implanted with a microchip preventing him from harming anything living, aside from demons. Fell in love with Buffy. After Buffy died and was ripped from Heaven, they had a year long affair. He went to Africa and went through some 'trials' winning his human soul back.
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First, I adore spike...jason marsden is yummy yummy yummy
I also loved tara and willow...and as much as I did want her with xander, I think it's important to keep her bi or lesbian. She's one of the few lesbians on tv getting any.
Someone remind me why buffy and angel can't see each other..something about territories? huh? I missed some stuff too, but saw this season.
Also...you can't have eliza...I want her. Would you consider a time share kind of thing? LOL
What if we brought back will's old b/f? that could be interesting...
when does it start? I've been immersed in classes and haven't seen any announcements
I also loved tara and willow...and as much as I did want her with xander, I think it's important to keep her bi or lesbian. She's one of the few lesbians on tv getting any.
Someone remind me why buffy and angel can't see each other..something about territories? huh? I missed some stuff too, but saw this season.
Also...you can't have eliza...I want her. Would you consider a time share kind of thing? LOL
What if we brought back will's old b/f? that could be interesting...
when does it start? I've been immersed in classes and haven't seen any announcements
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Last time, on Buffy....
Cliff Notes: Buffy Seasons 3-6.
Season 3.
Angel is sent back to Earth after spending many hundreds of years in a Hell dimension(though it's only been a summer on Earth). He and Buffy quickly get back together. Mayor Wilkins has been mayor for like 80 years though no one's noticed. Plans to 'ascend' to near god-hood on Graduation Day. A 2nd Slayer arrives in town, Faith. Was activated upon the death of last season's Kendra. Teams with Buffy for awhile, then defects to the bad side and becomes the Mayor's #2. Xander and Cordy start a short affair. Willow has found love with Oz, a musician who's also a werewolf. Right before Senior Graduation, Buffy and Faith have a knock down dragout fight and Buffy ends up putting Faith in a coma. Graduation Day arrives and the Mayor, in front of all the students, turns into a 100 foot long snake-demon. In perhaps the coolest scene to date, all the students throw off their gowns and don crosses, stakes, torch-guns to fight the Mayor and his vamp minions. The school and the Mayor are destroyed when it explodes.
Season 4.
Angel and Cordelia have both left town for L.A. Buffy and Will start their Freshman year at UC Sunnydale. Buffy finds love with Riley, a member of a secret military group dedicated to the research, experimentation, and extinction of demons. Willow's werewolf boyfriend has left town to find a way of controlling his lycanthropy. Will meets a young witch named Tara and the two become friends, then lovers. Xander begins dating Anya, a 1000 year old vengeance demon turned human girl. She's newly human and strangely literal. Faith returns, they fight. Faith heads for L.A. The season's Big Bad is Adam, a secret project of the director of the Initiative(that militry group). He's vanquished quickly enough. A weaker season bolstered by the Emmy Nominated episode 'Hush' where 3/4ths of the episode is completely without dialogue.
Season 5.
Will is still with Tara. Buffy is still with Riley. Xander has moved in with Anya. The Big Bad this season? Glorificus--"Glory". A GOD! expelled from her demon dimension for being TOO powerful. New cast addition of Dawn, Buffy's sister. She was formed from The Key--a mystical energy as old as time itself, funneled into a living being by monks. Everyone is given retroactive memories, as if she always existed. Glory needs the Key to open the gate between dimension so she can reclaim her throne. More on that later. Throughout the season, Buffy's mom Joyce has been experiencing headaches that lead to brain surgery. It's unsuccessful and she later dies on a brain annuerism (this is the season's standout episode 'The Body"). Riley and Buffy split. Meanwhile, Spike has been captured by the Initiative and has a chip placed in his head, prohibiting him from harming anything alive besides demons. He begins to fall in love with Buffy and is completely loyal. It all comes to a head when Dawn is finally kidnapped by Glory and taken to her tower for sacrifice, her blood opening the portal between dimensions. Everyone does their part in taking out Glory, with Giles delivering the final blow(more complicated than that, since she was sharing a body with a human male named Ben, but this is the quick version). The portal though, has been opened and Buffy realizes her blood can close it, since Dawn was made from hers as well. She plummets through the portal, dying instantly. Her gravestone reads "Buffy Anne Summers--1981-2001--She saved the world...a lot."
Season 6.
It's been about 6 months since Buffy's died. The Scoobies have taken over patrol, Giles has since moved back to England. Willow's power has grown immensly, and she initiates a ressurection of Buffy, from what they believe to be a hell dimension. Giles, while heartened to see Buffy alive, is FURIOUS with Willow, and they have a small confrontation...Giles moves back to London. This season's standout episode is "Once More With Feeling" an 80 minute MUSICAL! We find that Buffy wasn't in some horrible hell dimension. No, she was in Heaven itself. Since her ressurection, she hasn't been too healthy, mentally and emotionally. She begins sleeping with Spike, using him, but he LOVES her. Xander and Anya plan to marry, but he leaves her at the altar because he's been given false visions of their future, specifically her murder at his hands. The Big Bad this season? A group of 3 nerds calling themselves "The Trio" Their goal? To take over Sunnydale, then the world. They succeed here and there but are more silly than anything until their leader and only evil member Warren shoots Buffy in the stomach, and Tara through the chest, killing her instantly. Wild with rage and sadness, Willow absorbs all of Giles' magic books, filling herself with the blackest magic possible. Yes, Willow is the Biggest Bad we've ever seen. She heals Buffy and in a fit of range, SKINS Warren then immolates his body. Before she can get to the other two, she and Buffy fight hand to hand, with Willow winning...Giles returns, and the two beat the snot out of each other with magic, with Willow finally draining Giles of his magic power. She decides there's too much pain in the world, and sets out to destroy it forever. At the once buried Temple of Proxepecta, she begins her mission, only to be interrupted by Xander. She beats the snot out of her, but finally gets through, stopping her destruction, the two falling to the ground with Willow sobbing and Xander consoling her, ever the friend. After nearly raping Buffy, Spike, wildly ashamed of his actions, travels to Africa to endure a set of trials. He wins--his soul back.
Meanwhile, on Angel.
Quickly, Angel and Cordelia have an almost-there relationship. Cordy is bestowed with half-demonhood by a former member of their team (They've set up a detective agency "Angel Investigations"). Team being these two, Wesley Wyndham Price (Faith's Watcher, Charles Gunn and Fred...something. Anyway. Angel's Darla is brought back to life, and in a bad period, make love. Darla becomes pregnant with Angel's son. His son gets stolen away into another dimension and returns as a 16 year old. Cordy ascends to something...higher. But that's compressing 3 years into a paragraph.
I can expand on anything, just ask.
Cliff Notes: Buffy Seasons 3-6.
Season 3.
Angel is sent back to Earth after spending many hundreds of years in a Hell dimension(though it's only been a summer on Earth). He and Buffy quickly get back together. Mayor Wilkins has been mayor for like 80 years though no one's noticed. Plans to 'ascend' to near god-hood on Graduation Day. A 2nd Slayer arrives in town, Faith. Was activated upon the death of last season's Kendra. Teams with Buffy for awhile, then defects to the bad side and becomes the Mayor's #2. Xander and Cordy start a short affair. Willow has found love with Oz, a musician who's also a werewolf. Right before Senior Graduation, Buffy and Faith have a knock down dragout fight and Buffy ends up putting Faith in a coma. Graduation Day arrives and the Mayor, in front of all the students, turns into a 100 foot long snake-demon. In perhaps the coolest scene to date, all the students throw off their gowns and don crosses, stakes, torch-guns to fight the Mayor and his vamp minions. The school and the Mayor are destroyed when it explodes.
Season 4.
Angel and Cordelia have both left town for L.A. Buffy and Will start their Freshman year at UC Sunnydale. Buffy finds love with Riley, a member of a secret military group dedicated to the research, experimentation, and extinction of demons. Willow's werewolf boyfriend has left town to find a way of controlling his lycanthropy. Will meets a young witch named Tara and the two become friends, then lovers. Xander begins dating Anya, a 1000 year old vengeance demon turned human girl. She's newly human and strangely literal. Faith returns, they fight. Faith heads for L.A. The season's Big Bad is Adam, a secret project of the director of the Initiative(that militry group). He's vanquished quickly enough. A weaker season bolstered by the Emmy Nominated episode 'Hush' where 3/4ths of the episode is completely without dialogue.
Season 5.
Will is still with Tara. Buffy is still with Riley. Xander has moved in with Anya. The Big Bad this season? Glorificus--"Glory". A GOD! expelled from her demon dimension for being TOO powerful. New cast addition of Dawn, Buffy's sister. She was formed from The Key--a mystical energy as old as time itself, funneled into a living being by monks. Everyone is given retroactive memories, as if she always existed. Glory needs the Key to open the gate between dimension so she can reclaim her throne. More on that later. Throughout the season, Buffy's mom Joyce has been experiencing headaches that lead to brain surgery. It's unsuccessful and she later dies on a brain annuerism (this is the season's standout episode 'The Body"). Riley and Buffy split. Meanwhile, Spike has been captured by the Initiative and has a chip placed in his head, prohibiting him from harming anything alive besides demons. He begins to fall in love with Buffy and is completely loyal. It all comes to a head when Dawn is finally kidnapped by Glory and taken to her tower for sacrifice, her blood opening the portal between dimensions. Everyone does their part in taking out Glory, with Giles delivering the final blow(more complicated than that, since she was sharing a body with a human male named Ben, but this is the quick version). The portal though, has been opened and Buffy realizes her blood can close it, since Dawn was made from hers as well. She plummets through the portal, dying instantly. Her gravestone reads "Buffy Anne Summers--1981-2001--She saved the world...a lot."
Season 6.
It's been about 6 months since Buffy's died. The Scoobies have taken over patrol, Giles has since moved back to England. Willow's power has grown immensly, and she initiates a ressurection of Buffy, from what they believe to be a hell dimension. Giles, while heartened to see Buffy alive, is FURIOUS with Willow, and they have a small confrontation...Giles moves back to London. This season's standout episode is "Once More With Feeling" an 80 minute MUSICAL! We find that Buffy wasn't in some horrible hell dimension. No, she was in Heaven itself. Since her ressurection, she hasn't been too healthy, mentally and emotionally. She begins sleeping with Spike, using him, but he LOVES her. Xander and Anya plan to marry, but he leaves her at the altar because he's been given false visions of their future, specifically her murder at his hands. The Big Bad this season? A group of 3 nerds calling themselves "The Trio" Their goal? To take over Sunnydale, then the world. They succeed here and there but are more silly than anything until their leader and only evil member Warren shoots Buffy in the stomach, and Tara through the chest, killing her instantly. Wild with rage and sadness, Willow absorbs all of Giles' magic books, filling herself with the blackest magic possible. Yes, Willow is the Biggest Bad we've ever seen. She heals Buffy and in a fit of range, SKINS Warren then immolates his body. Before she can get to the other two, she and Buffy fight hand to hand, with Willow winning...Giles returns, and the two beat the snot out of each other with magic, with Willow finally draining Giles of his magic power. She decides there's too much pain in the world, and sets out to destroy it forever. At the once buried Temple of Proxepecta, she begins her mission, only to be interrupted by Xander. She beats the snot out of her, but finally gets through, stopping her destruction, the two falling to the ground with Willow sobbing and Xander consoling her, ever the friend. After nearly raping Buffy, Spike, wildly ashamed of his actions, travels to Africa to endure a set of trials. He wins--his soul back.
Meanwhile, on Angel.
Quickly, Angel and Cordelia have an almost-there relationship. Cordy is bestowed with half-demonhood by a former member of their team (They've set up a detective agency "Angel Investigations"). Team being these two, Wesley Wyndham Price (Faith's Watcher, Charles Gunn and Fred...something. Anyway. Angel's Darla is brought back to life, and in a bad period, make love. Darla becomes pregnant with Angel's son. His son gets stolen away into another dimension and returns as a 16 year old. Cordy ascends to something...higher. But that's compressing 3 years into a paragraph.
I can expand on anything, just ask.
Damn you do kick ass man. Not sure if you typed it all yourself or copied and pasted it, but I read every single word on there. Couple questions though.
Why was angel in "hell" to begin season 3? I don't remember him being sent there.
Who and where does buffy live with/at now that her mom died?
Who planted those false thoughts into xander's head that made him leave anya?
How exactly did giles give the final blow?
And if buffy threw herself into the portal, instead of dying, wouldn't she go to where the portal lead?
And how the hell do you kill a GOD that's too powerful in her own dimension?
And why hasn't giles shown any of his magic powers before this point where he fights willow?
And does what happens on Angel really play an impact on buffy's show?
Who steal's angel's son and where do they go that he returns as a 16 year old and is he a good guy or not?
And cordiela(sp?) is actully powerful now? How and why?
That's all my questions for right now...you would kick even more ass if you answer them all for me.
Why was angel in "hell" to begin season 3? I don't remember him being sent there.
Who and where does buffy live with/at now that her mom died?
Who planted those false thoughts into xander's head that made him leave anya?
How exactly did giles give the final blow?
And if buffy threw herself into the portal, instead of dying, wouldn't she go to where the portal lead?
And how the hell do you kill a GOD that's too powerful in her own dimension?
And why hasn't giles shown any of his magic powers before this point where he fights willow?
And does what happens on Angel really play an impact on buffy's show?
Who steal's angel's son and where do they go that he returns as a 16 year old and is he a good guy or not?
And cordiela(sp?) is actully powerful now? How and why?
That's all my questions for right now...you would kick even more ass if you answer them all for me.
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Cibo said:
There is no fun since I'll probably be working when it's on. Any chance you could help a brotha out?
How about I'll tell you what's generally known? The season opens with the re-opening of the rebuilt Sunnydale High (which if you remember, was destroyed in season 3). Xander's crew got the bid to rebuild, so he's got some fast cash. Oh yeah, Xander's been a successful carpenter since season 4. Buffy's got a new job working at the school in a counseler capacity.
The main thread of the season seems to be what Spike does now that he has a soul and can choose for himself between keeping it with good acts, or losing it through bad. There are whispering of Slayers in Training. I know more, but that's a MAJOR plot point, and I don't want to spoil for the rest of the group. And then there's the return of all the Big Bads. Which I also can't spoil.
It's shaping up to be a great season, good since last was a bit weak and heavy handed.
ya, I understand how spoiling it for the others would be bad. But chances are that I won't be home to watch any of this last season. So any chance that you could PM me with the info if you have time please? If not, that's cool then. Thanks for all your help thus far, you've been a great help.
And I'm off to bed, hopefully when i wake up, I can read more about buffy.
And I'm off to bed, hopefully when i wake up, I can read more about buffy.
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Cibo said:ya, I understand how spoiling it for the others would be bad. But chances are that I won't be home to watch any of this last season. So any chance that you could PM me with the info if you have time please? If not, that's cool then. Thanks for all your help thus far, you've been a great help.
And I'm off to bed, hopefully when i wake up, I can read more about buffy.
I know Joss hired a government linguist to teach the cast to speak in reverse, but I don't know if anything's to come of it.
There's tell of an episode with dialogue in iambic? pentameter.
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lovetoread said:
Oh god he is cute for an older guy!
They had this show on BBC with him in it... damn he was good.
*in lust*
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Eagle70 said:
I thought so too... but no one else over here seems to think so.
I would love to see Buffy and Spike get together too. *yes, I said that even though I loved her with Angel*
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YESSSSSSS!!!!!
It was awesome!!!
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It was awesome!!!
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RastaPope said:
duh shes gay ... it will be stupid if they make willow straight the point is i think that they can be best friends without being more
if they make willow straight then its just stupid and disrespectful
i wonder when it starts in uk i haven't seen anything about it yet it will be good to see how willow deals with being gay
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RastaPope said:
When I first started to watch the show and Spike was introduced.. I thought ick, yuck, ewww... hated him with a passion. As the show progressed and he evolved... I've now become enamoured with him. Though I did get pissed that he tried to rape Buffy. That totally sucked.
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sexy-girl said:
Why? It's not like it never happens. There are plenty of women who have a lesbian relationship, then follow that with a straight one. She switched orientations once, who's to say she can't do it again? If 'they' make Will straight? You mean Joss? The man who created her? The man who writes her? I think it disrespectful to say say she shouldn't be with Xander just because she's been with a girl. Your argument of 'stupid and disrespectful sounds largely political. She belongs to Joss, whatever he does will be right.
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oceanbaby28 said:
Don't forget for a second what he is. A soul-less animal. Pure and simple, he's evil. No two ways about it. Sure, he can still love. Doesn't make him any better a being. I'm willing to forget the rape attempt since it occured when he didn't have a soul. All of that said, most of his tough guy act is largely that, an act. As a human he was a quiet, shy, awkward poet. As a vampire he's all that, playing the tough guy.
We'll see what happens now that he's be ensouled.
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she came out as being gay ... that doesn't count as switching orientation she was always gay but didn't always realize it ... that's what coming out means ... the way the relationship with tara was done its been clear that she wasn't bisexual but gay
lesbians and gays have enough trouble with people not taking them seriously when they come out as gay its sometimes assumed by parents and family and friends that they are just going thru a phase
if the writer feeds that misconception that being gay is just a phase than that is disrespectful to homosexuals ... he may have wrote willow as a character but he was dealing with very serious subjects that he didn't need to ... now he has to face the consequences of writing about those subjects
i think if he did write willow back as being gay then the gay community would be pretty annoyed with him and rightly so
i've also read an article where he said willow wouldn't be going straight now just because tara was gone
lesbians and gays have enough trouble with people not taking them seriously when they come out as gay its sometimes assumed by parents and family and friends that they are just going thru a phase
if the writer feeds that misconception that being gay is just a phase than that is disrespectful to homosexuals ... he may have wrote willow as a character but he was dealing with very serious subjects that he didn't need to ... now he has to face the consequences of writing about those subjects
i think if he did write willow back as being gay then the gay community would be pretty annoyed with him and rightly so
i've also read an article where he said willow wouldn't be going straight now just because tara was gone
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sexy-girl said:
So? The gay community was pissed off when Tara died, because he 'destroyed' one of the few? gay relationships on television. He still killed her, and it made for good tv. He mentioned the idea that he couldn't kill her because they were gay was worse than the idea of killing her in the first place. If he panders to any one group, that's just weak. And who says it was a phase? I'm not saying she can't be with Xander and never get a taste for some squirrel. Hell, I'm a great fan of a coupla cute lesbian knocking army boots.
Hypothetical. Would you rather:
A)Have willow stay gay and have a weaker story(not saying it WOULD be weaker, this is just hypothetical, cause hell, I loved Tara) just to not offend some gay people?
or
B)Have Willow come together with Xander thus fulfilling a relationship quite possibly(notice I say possibly) for 17 years of their lives and bringing the show full circle?
