Brokeback Mountain

[Guest]

Umm, maybe I'm a little naive or maybe I just believe that people are people, whether it be ranchers or politicians, aren't we all entitled to love? And maybe, just maybe, I'm just a small town girl with not a lot of big city experience, but isn't a movie supposed to be for entertainment, to move someone or make someone think?

So if this movie, which I definitely want to see, is about gay love, which is just as important as straight love, in my own book, what's the big deal? If you don't want to see it, don't.

It's fiction, which is what most of us write anyway. So I say, watch it if you wish, enjoy it if that's your want and if it isn't, then don't put down those who want to.

My own two cents...and it's about all it's worth. I can't wait to see it personally and don't understand the bit fit some people are throwing.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

Why, though?

That's what I don't understand. They're not depicting every single rancher as gay, right?

And, like I said earlier, I'd bet any money you want that there have always been gay men, lesbian women among them, and they just didn't know it. Doesn't change anything, does it?

I guess you would just have to know them to understand them. Yes, there probably have been a few homosexuals of both sexes, but I personally haven't known any.

Remember this is their way of life that is being portrayed on the screen, and I don't expect that many of the people here understand that way of life. Most of them have strong Christian beliefs, and truly believe homosexuality is wrong.

Personally, I have no desire to see this movie. But don't read too much into that statement...I'm having a hard time remembering the last movie I went and saw.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

Umm, maybe I'm a little naive or maybe I just believe that people are people, whether it be ranchers or politicians, aren't we all entitled to love? And maybe, just maybe, I'm just a small town girl with not a lot of big city experience, but isn't a movie supposed to be for entertainment, to move someone or make someone think?

So if this movie, which I definitely want to see, is about gay love, which is just as important as straight love, in my own book, what's the big deal? If you don't want to see it, don't.

It's fiction, which is what most of us write anyway. So I say, watch it if you wish, enjoy it if that's your want and if it isn't, then don't put down those who want to.

My own two cents...and it's about all it's worth. I can't wait to see it personally and don't understand the bit fit some people are throwing.

Yup, everyone does deserve love. And yup, it is fiction. And I don't think I've put anyone down for wanting to see it.

You know this is one of those occasions when I shoulda just kept my big mouth shut...

I think I will go make an Advil milkshake...hmm one bottle or two...

 

[entitled]

I guess you would just have to know them to understand them. Yes, there probably have been a few homosexuals of both sexes, but I personally haven't known any.

Remember this is their way of life that is being portrayed on the screen, and I don't expect that many of the people here understand that way of life. Most of them have strong Christian beliefs, and truly believe homosexuality is wrong.

Personally, I have no desire to see this movie. But don't read too much into that statement...I'm having a hard time remembering the last movie I went and saw.

i know that way of life all too well. Oh yes.

Thing is, if they weren't all so closed to anything different than themselves, i would love to go back to it.

 

[Guest]

i know that way of life all too well. Oh yes.

Thing is, if they weren't all so closed to anything different than themselves, i would love to go back to it.

From your mouth to God's ears....

 

[drksideofthemoon]

i know that way of life all too well. Oh yes.

Thing is, if they weren't all so closed to anything different than themselves, i would love to go back to it.

I would love to go back to it too...

 

[drksideofthemoon]

From your mouth to God's ears....

But you know...if you were in the hospital, they would be out there at 4AM feeding your cattle....taking care of your crops...

If your house or barn burned to the ground, they would be the ones there helping rebuild it...

If you needed a bed or a meal, it wouldn't matter that they didn't know you, you would get both...

Yeah, they are a little close minded...but they have their good points too..

 

[entitled]

But you know...if you were in the hospital, they would be out there at 4AM feeding your cattle....taking care of your crops...

If your house or barn burned to the ground, they would be the ones there helping rebuild it...

If you needed a bed or a meal, it wouldn't matter that they didn't know you, you would get both...

Yeah, they are a little close minded...but they have their good points too..

There's a reason i wouldn't mind going back.

 

[logophile]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I''d be interrested in hearing from someone who had. Because the signals that I have been getting about it are ambigous...

Is this a movie about GAY love?
Or is it a movie about gay LOVE?

Stories about "different" people and their struggle against a judgemental world is getting, I wouldn't say old, but at least a little worn. That's just controversy for the sake of being controversial. I for one would one day really like to see the latter. A movie where the actual sexual orientation of the protagonist is not made into The Big Issue by the filmmakers, but just what happen to be, in a story about people.

Answering this question via PM so as not to spoil anything here.
But I wanted to add... you have a point, Liar. And this movie doesn't strike a chord of just being controversial for its own sake. Nope, not all...

 

[matriarch]

But you know...if you were in the hospital, they would be out there at 4AM feeding your cattle....taking care of your crops...

If your house or barn burned to the ground, they would be the ones there helping rebuild it...

If you needed a bed or a meal, it wouldn't matter that they didn't know you, you would get both...

Yeah, they are a little close minded...but they have their good points too..

I'm sure they'd still do it. Being gay does not mean absenting oneself from the human race.

 

[Adrenaline]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I''d be interrested in hearing from someone who had. Because the signals that I have been getting about it are ambigous...

Is this a movie about GAY love?
Or is it a movie about gay LOVE?

Stories about "different" people and their struggle against a judgemental world is getting, I wouldn't say old, but at least a little worn. That's just controversy for the sake of being controversial. I for one would one day really like to see the latter. A movie where the actual sexual orientation of the protagonist is not made into The Big Issue by the filmmakers, but just what happen to be, in a story about people.

It's about both. Considering the film is set in 1960's Wyoming it's fairly impossible for it not to be a Big Issue. Considering the personal background of the characters in the story it would be implausible for that to be played down. Making that a part of their story is not making it "controversy for the sake of being controversial" it's simply being true to the setting and the sort of people born and raised in it. It can't be about something that just happens to be when men were being killed for just happening to be that way.

But is it one big preachy lecture guised in the form of an artsy film? No. The characters' relationship develops in the way any other intimate relationship develops, and they act like any other couple in love would act in their situation and they deal with personal problems, with themselves and with their family, that other people going through difficulties would have.

Edit: Of course I wouldn't mind a regular ol' intelligent romantic flick with Hugh Jackman and....I dunno Jonathan Rhys-Meyers falling in love in present day Canada.

 

[Guest]

It's about both. Considering the film is set in 1960's Wyoming it's fairly impossible for it not to be a Big Issue. Considering the personal background of the characters in the story it would be implausible for that to be played down. Making that a part of their story is not making it "controversy not to be controversial" it's simply being true to the setting and the sort of people born and raised in it. It can't be about something that just happens to be when men were being killed for just happening to be that way.

But is it one big preachy lecture guised in the form of an artsy film? No. The characters' relationship develops in the way any other intimate relationship develops, and they act like any other couple in love would act in their situation and they deal with personal problems, with themselves and with their family, that other people going through difficulties would have.

Edit: Of course I wouldn't mind a regular ol' intelligent romantic flick with Hugh Jackman and....I dunno Jonathan Rhys-Meyers falling in love in present day Canada.

It sounds wonderful...

 

[logophile]

It sounds wonderful...

Oh, it is, it is!!

 

[Guest]

Oh, it is, it is!!

My little sister and I are going to go as soon as it's in a theater near us.

 

[drksideofthemoon]

I'm sure they'd still do it. Being gay does not mean absenting oneself from the human race.

I don't think you will find anywhere in this thread where I mentioned anything about the gay lifestyle, or excluding anyone from the human race. Personally, I have no views on the "Gay" issue. I prefer to live, and let live. My ranching relatives have a negative view of the movie, and that's fine, that's their opinion, and they are entitled to it.

Personally, I have no desire to see the movie, but I feel that way about most movies. If someone wants to go see the movie, more power to them. We have the freedom of choice...