Breasts women only OO oo

[amicus]

Breasts and Brassieres OO oo

As the last frantic weekend before the US General election arrives, I thought perhaps a non political query might be welcomed.

A comment by a friend with large breasts commented that the first thing she would do when her book sold was to have a breast reduction procedure.

That set me to thinking about how you ladies look upon those appendages....

I spent a few dollars...as a father...for 'training bra's' and then the real thing but all I did was pay...girls at that age do not often speak to their fathers about such things...

And so...ladies...for a writer's research for better understanding, would you venture forth with your most intimate memories of the first budding and how you felt psychologically and Libido wise when they first became noticeable?

And when it became obvious that guys were looking and wanted to get their hands on you...and even what might be a chore to strap on that device upon awakening each morn.

I realize that in closely describing brassieres and the whole selecting, buying, wearing and flouncing...that my adjectives are sorely limited.

You may even care to enlighten me of the love making aspects of fondling...some naughty flicks I have seen portray the woman fondling her own breasts during intercourse and the old amicus tilts his head and wonders about such things.

Anything you write may be shamelessly appropriated to dress up one of my characters.

Thank you...

amicus the curious....

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[Guest]

I need to publically state, Amicus, that you are among two or three Lit. persons to whom I would not ever give gratuitious, personal information, particularly about my body and its development. I'm stunned you would ask this given your malcontent views on women (liberally posted on this board).

And you plan to "use" our posts in your writing. Do you plan to cite the original authors? (rhetorical question)

Perdita

 

[destinie21]

need I point out that you could just read a few books? Judy Blume has a fabulous grasp on the young female physce in general. Obviously those books aren't going to be graphic and what not nor should they be but they'll give you a starting point or you could ask your "large breasted" friend

 

[doormouse]

I was going to reply to this but I'm scared to now lol

 

[amicus]

I am sorry doormouse...you should realize that was the intent of the first person to respond to this thread. Don't let the feminazi's scare you off...

I have placed no one on 'ignore' on this forum however there are a few I do not read and will not respond to.

There are just a few really low class, vicious ideologues who, lacking the ability to respond rationally to a discussion, revert to personal and subjective attacks on anyone they disagree with.

Accepted protocal and dignified behavior on an open forum such as this is known and practiced by most.

I have removed 'women only' from the title of this thread and welcome a male point of view...perhaps that may elicit a rational response instead of a hissy fit.

I already know the ugliness of your mind, I sure as hell do not wish to hear about your body.


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amicus

 

[BlackSnake]

I understand you query and feel that it would be worth having a woman's input on the matter.

Warning other's off is a cheap shot at best, and knowing the politics of this forum I willing to bet that other women will fear posting here.

Free exchange of ideas only apply to those who are apart of the "in-crowd".

To the posing question, I would guess that it would be simular to the awkwardness I felt as a pre-teen. My arms and neck seemed to be growing faster than other parts of my body. People were looking. They noticed that the tips of my fingers were touching my knees when I was standing. They were trying to hold back their laughter as my head floated on the string that was my neck. OMG they were tripping over the flippers in my shoes. I hated to look up, because people were looking right at me and all my deformities.

I would imagine that some felt arkward, maybe because of the way growing boobs look, other may have felt left behind seeing other girls with fully developed breasts. Maybe they felt the same way that boys do, but only for different reasons. Prubity sucks for everyone I would imagine.

 

[sincerely_helene]

Remember the first time you got a boner in class and were asked to walk up to the chalkboard to do a math equation? Much like that.

Only we couldn't hide them behind a book until they went away.

 

[amicus]

Thank you Blacksnake and Helene...My intent was not a perverse one about young girls...nor even a 'personal' viewpoint, rather an objective female perspective and what it means to strap on a bra every day of your life...there is no equitable male experience as we usually just throw on a shirt and a pair of pants and venture forth.

Perhaps I did not word it as well as I might have...but there are all kinds of things I do not understand even about the way that device hooks on in the back...or the front...and what the advantage is to either.

A chapter I am working on will include the invention of the first attempts ti create a garment that supports the breasts 10,000 years ago and I have as yet to devise a mechanical means of holding it up with raw hide straps and still have it comfortable enough to wear for long periods of time...

Anyway...my appreciation to both and I indeed sidled my way to the blackboard sideways to the tittering of the entire class.

amicus...

 

[BlackSnake]

My first public display was in a dramatic fashion and I was teased. Called names like donky-dick. Girls my age wouldn't give me any play. It was horrid.

 

[gauchecritic]

<>feminazi's<>

I have placed no one on 'ignore' on this forum however there are a few I do not read and will not respond to.

<> really low class, vicious ideologues <> lacking the ability to respond rationally <>personal and subjective attacks

<>a hissy fit.

<> the ugliness of your mind, I <> do not wish to hear about your body.

amicus

What an odd and peurile way to not respond.

Gauche

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Cause I want to encourage non-asshole amicus in the hopes that his evil twin dies

Personally, the breast issue is kind of interesting. The views of it as an obstruction, an unfortunate display of personality, a show of shame, or as a mere functioning body is interesting. My favorite tale about them was about the famous amazons who would cut and burn off one of their breasts in order to get maximum draw on their bows. This casual self-mutilation struck me as an interesting case of a group of women completely unaffected by the appearance of it and instead went for functionality.

Similarily, I have heard the standard stories from female friends, the ranges of opinions. One large-breasted but blonde acquantaince hated her boobs as they not only hurt her back, but when combined with her hair signalled to the male population that she was loose. Every single romantic encounter she had was tainted by the belief that the men could easily have their way with her. When they discovered this wasn't the case and that she actually had a mind with her body, they quickly dumped her. Needless to say, she disliked it all and seriously considered breast reduction surgery. I don't know if she went through with it, because I knew her back in high school.

On the other hand, my best female friend is proud of her bust, citing it as her one good physical feature. She doesn't view it as a weapon despite the image I just conjured up, but rather something she can cling to in the sea of body image rhetoric about how deathly thin is beautiful and feel good about physically. I'll tell you no more about her. No offense.

Overall, the various reactions among young women about media-induced body image is an interesting and (i hate to break it to you) feminist study. I think one of the better portrayals of it in film was American Beauty. They really dissected the idea of what the world tells you is beautiful and what real people tell you is beautiful.

Bras interplay with this by offering the women a chance to either help herself to the media ideal or prevent herself from reaching the ideal. Usually on large-breasted women, sportsbras are required, both as an anti-aphrodesiac for the men around them and as a method for preventing back pain. On small women, it offers the chance for them to pretend the have more than they have with wonderbras and the like. And combining on those are the women who wear bras for the same reason that men wear underwear. In fact, you can think of them as slightly similar. Someone like BlackSnake needs a better supported brief if he wants to hide his manly protrusion. Similarily, a desperate man may stuff something down a less supported brief in order to "fake" a manly protrusion. It's very similar except that women care more, because their media-induced measuring stakes are more apparent than those for men.

The size of a man is only apparent in the bed in most cases, whereas a woman's waist and bust are something anyone walking down the street can tell.

#

Now, you have been seeming most shocked at the treatment from the ladies of this forum. Such shock shouldn't exist, concerning what you have said to them. You have directly insulted most of them, repeatedly claimed that women were naturally inferior to men, that education was inadvisable in the hands of a woman, and much much worse. Thus, it shouldn't be so surprising that a nice post would receive the backlash that it has.

You are a firm believer in freedom, thus it behooves me to give you this quote:

"You see, I believe in freedom, Mr. Lipwig. Not many people do, although they will, of course, protest otherwise. And no practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed, it is the freedom upon which all the others are based."

Due to a flawed and crippled romanticism, I still cling to the hope, after being shunted by you every single time, that you have a distinct intelligence within you. Hopefully, this will sink in and we'll never have to do with the false victim act because it's annoying.

Believe me I have paid hard the prices of long ago flaws in conversation. Things said at one time have colored things for years, shut doors that couldn't be opened no matter what I did. Things must be the same for you. You are paying for what you have said in the past to these women. An apology may lessen some of the damage, but it also might be too late. If it is the latter, you have no choice but to suffer. Because that is freedom.

Your l'il buddy,
Lucifer_Carroll

P.S. It is nice to have a post from you that isn't of the assholic nature. It is quite a refreshment.

 

[amicus]

Ahhh...Lucifer Carroll...

you said:

"Now, you have been seeming most shocked at the treatment from the ladies of this forum. Such shock shouldn't exist, concerning what you have said to them. You have directly insulted most of them, repeatedly claimed that women were naturally inferior to men, that education was inadvisable in the hands of a woman, and much much worse. Thus, it shouldn't be so surprising that a nice post would receive the backlash that it has...."

First off...thanks for the input concerning breasts...from a male viewpoint...it is probably about the best either of us could do. I do think your views on the 'media created' thin woman is colored by your distaste for a market place that responds to demand. But that is another barrel of sour apples between us.

From as far back as I can remember...even the cartoons of long ago Alley Oop... Dogpatch...most of the popular films and commercials in all media...it is presented and accepted without complaint that the male is slow minded, bumbling, insensitive, more a bowling alley than an opera fan...futher, since the Suffragettes that brought about prohibition, and the current attack on tobacco products...to the overall atmosphere that 'men' are hostile, aggressive, war like, stubborn, foolish, impulsive and the list goes on.

Meanwhile, on the feminist front, women are portrayed as being peace loving, amicable, willing to debate and negotiate, against war and violence, sensitive, caring, family oriented, faithful and that list goes on also...

For over 40 years I have been on the firing line for controversial issues...meeting the public in person, on the phone, over the radio and even a short stint on television. And over those years the most difficult to deal with have been women.

I interviewed Joan Baez during the Vietnam 60's and dozens of other highly artistic, educated, professional men and women of the world. Again...it was women who were the hardest to interview and discuss issues with.

Call it a bias if you wish, I prefer to think it is a conclusion based on experience.

I have reached a point where I do not assume the passive role in conversations with women. I do not accept the role they assign the male on a regular basis.

And most of all, I do not bow down to political correctness when it comes to criticizing women in general about their political preferences.

It has been and is my contention that since women were given the right to participate in political affairs, that this nation and the world has moved to the political left. That is to say that a majority of women vote for candidates and issues that give more power to government and erode the individual rights this nation was based upon.

In doing so, they have politically emasculated a large part of the concept of individual liberty and responsibility.

Thirty years ago, before Roe v Wade, it was first degree murder to take the life of an unborn child. In this day and age, to even suggest that one might wish to re instate that law, brings out the worst in women.

Instead of a discussion or a debate on the merits of the subject, should anyone be foolish enough to take an opposing position to the feminist agenda, it turns into a name calling affair.

To even question that 75 years of equality for women has been anything but a good thing...brings down the roof with insults about hating women and misogynism.

There are many issues brought about by the emergence of women that truly should be discussed. Such as the psychological health of children sent off to daycare and babysitters at the age of one year....and put into early schooling and increasingly younger ages.

Kids, latchkey kids, that come home from school to an empty house and then exhausted parents/parent at the end of the day.
To even attempt to discuss this brings forth a hue and cry again, from the same entrenched feminists who apparently can do no wrong.

We live in a changing world, and I for one will not plunge blindly ahead down a path of uncertainty. Every year there are approximately two million unwanted and runaway kids on the streets of America. Suicide is either the first or second major cause of death among the young.

Is it because of broken homes, single parent families, a less family oriented life style? Is the increase in homosexuality and indication that maybe gender equality may not be such a good thing after all?

I don't know, with certainty, any of the answers. But I damned well will ask the questions even if it brings the filth and obscenities of those who live a lifestyle but will not accept the possible consequences of their actions.

And I know this sounds personal to many but it is not so directed, 30 million women have had abortions in this country, perhaps half of all working women leave kids in the care of others. So, yes, I suppose I should expect the hatred from those to whom the queries apply.

But as always...it is intended as a general question, an objective question, not a personal one directed at any one individual.

I suppose time will tell....

amicus...

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

amicus, once again, you fail to understand. But that's understandable considering your view on life and the world. Your worldview prevents you from understanding. I accept that.

My point is that you have no right to whine. You can be misogynistic (perhaps you are even right, stranger things have happened), but you have to take the flak for that. It's a fact of life. The greatest freedom is the freedom to take the consequences.

It really kills me to see you time and time again, slip through the cracks, bumbling around as if you don't understand. You're like Godzilla smashing Tokyo, so convinced of your own correctness, that you are numb to the damage you're causing and you blame the jet fighters for every stinging shot to the face because you don't understand them and believe them to be beneath your contemplation.

Sigh, but I guess some people are truly hopeless. Cling to your worldview amy, but don't you ever complain. You deem apology unneccesary, so be it, but don't you dare complain. Have some fucking balls for once.

Nihilistically yours,


P.S. Yeah, you can talk all you want about latchkey kids. I was one. And it wasn't feminists or fags or all the other right-wing buzzwords that were to blame for it. It was my shit-licking father who was too much of a pussy to deal with a kid. He ran away, leaving my mom to have to move in with her fucking brother and get a 16-hour work schedule as a goffer in a law firm in order to support me and her. That's right, it was a man's fault. And in 90% of the fucking cases in the Continental US of fuckin' A, it's the damn man's fault that there is a single parent family. It's almost always the man fleeing away and partying while the woman struggles to raise the child. Tolyk's case was the first I've seen in my life, that didn't follow that format. The man goes off, plays with expensive toys, maybe screws a couple of fast women, while the woman works her ass off to the bone and the child learns independence real fast. So yeah, asshole, try and lecture me about broken families.

P.S.S. You don't even want to get into it with me about suicide. Period.

 

[BlackSnake]

I would have thought that with all the women that post opinions on this board, more than one would offer some insite into this issue.

My goodness...

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

I would have thought that with all the women that post opinions on this board, more than one would offer some insite into this issue.

My goodness...

It's because what goes around, comes around sometimes. He's spent so much time alienating the women on the threads that many women don't feel comfortable answering to this thread even though one by someone like ABSTRUSE titled Boobies!!! or something or another would get post after post of lurid description in the exact same open medium.

To quote Mark Knophler(sp?): "That's the way it is"

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

My ex told me about the early years of her breast development, when she was really young. It was, apparently, more traumatic (if that word be anywhere near accurate enough) than male development.

Take a guy, his body changes and whatnot, but for the most part--nobody is going to notice much as an intimacy or arousal. I did sports a lot, so I saw guys naked and vice-verse (that was difficult during puberty for any number of reasons). But not everyone did. Their "privates" were well covered most all of the time, it wasn't too big of an issue short of Black Snake's situation (which is all too common, I can relate).

But for women, here's a small development that may never change and that everyone can see. My ex used to talk about it like it was somekind of stock exchange and every woman is looking at their numbers... hoping they don't stop going up too soon. And, while waiting for that end-product, you have a very visible, very unimpressive representation of your budding womanhood.

 

[BlackSnake]

...

P.S. Yeah, you can talk all you want about latchkey kids. I was one. And it wasn't feminists or fags or all the other right-wing buzzwords that were to blame for it. It was my shit-licking father who was too much of a pussy to deal with a kid. He ran away, leaving my mom to have to move in with her fucking brother and get a 16-hour work schedule as a goffer in a law firm in order to support me and her. That's right, it was a man's fault. And in 90% of the fucking cases in the Continental US of fuckin' A, it's the damn man's fault that there is a single parent family. It's almost always the man fleeing away and partying while the woman struggles to raise the child. Tolyk's case was the first I've seen in my life, that didn't follow that format. The man goes off, plays with expensive toys, maybe screws a couple of fast women, while the woman works her ass off to the bone and the child learns independence real fast. So yeah, asshole, try and lecture me about broken families.

P.S.S. You don't even want to get into it with me about suicide. Period.

I'm jumping in here, because it sounds like you are coming to the defense of the first poster. How do you really feel?

As to your P.S. It takes two to tango. My parents divorced when I was really young. On my birthday, my dad hit my mom and she shot him in the ass. How about supporting 3 kids as a waitress in the deep south. But the kicker is that I only knew what she told me and what I saw. He wasn't there or offering help, and times were hard. It is still a one sided story, and not many are even willing to really hear the other side. "It's the man's fault" It took 25 years for me to understand why I spent so much time going from one place to the other. 25 years of not giving my father a chance to know me, or me getting to know him. He died a few months after I took his phone call. I asked my mother about the things he told me. She is too old to give a damn, and his ass is dead. You'd be surprised what the other side of the story could be. Not in every case, but to think that I could have learned how to catch a baseball from my father instead of my cousins. Sex wouldn't have been an issue for me, at least until I hit pruberity. Lachkey, during the school year I saw my mother on saturday mornings before she went to work. Everything else was notes, until I got in high school.

Dude, it sounds like you are saying that it's ok for members on this board to encourage others not to provide their opinions on a thread.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Snake,

Lc's point is quite valid. Amicus doesn't neccessarily hate women, but has voiced the opinion we are les intelligent, less competant, less worthy of the franchise, of the right to work or the right to make reproductive decisions, et al. In the course of several threads he has managed to frustrate, aggravate or inervate just about every woman who posts here regularly.

His opinion of women being what it is, it stands to reason that many have him on ignore and thus don't see this thread. Many others wouldn't open themselves up to someone who, in essence would happily return them to the days of bare foot & pregnant, be seen not heard and be silent in church if he had such power.

The question asked is personal, the response is of neccissity personal, given his less than cordial relations with most women here, it's not a surprise few have responded and even fewer have responded by divulging information.

LC & amicus have a history, so it isn't surprising the exchange becomes virtuprative quickly. Be that as it may, the point LC makes is still valid. If pops or Oggs or rumps had broached the question, I do not doubt there would be more responses. As is, you will have to count on new comers or those ladies who avoid the political threads and thus haven't pre formed an opinion to respond.

I would think English Lady, due to her obvious endowment and open nature might be a good one to get the ball rolling, assuming she notices the thread.

-Colly

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

I'm jumping in here, because it sounds like you are coming to the defense of the first poster. How do you really feel?

As to your P.S. It takes two to tango. My parents divorced when I was really young. On my birthday, my dad hit my mom and she shot him in the ass. How about supporting 3 kids as a waitress in the deep south. But the kicker is that I only knew what she told me and what I saw. He wasn't there or offering help, and times were hard. It is still a one sided story, and not many are even willing to really hear the other side. "It's the man's fault" It took 25 years for me to understand why I spent so much time going from one place to the other. 25 years of not giving my father a chance to know me, or me getting to know him. He died a few months after I took his phone call. I asked my mother about the things he told me. She is too old to give a damn, and his ass is dead. You'd be surprised what the other side of the story could be. Not in every case, but to think that I could have learned how to catch a baseball from my father instead of my cousins. Sex wouldn't have been an issue for me, at least until I hit pruberity. Lachkey, during the school year I saw my mother on saturday mornings before she went to work. Everything else was notes, until I got in high school.

Dude, it sounds like you are saying that it's ok for members on this board to encourage others not to provide their opinions on a thread.

My explanations:

My P.S.: Believe me, I know the truth about the situation. I went to the family of the bastard father and they told me the other side. It was exactly the same as what my mom told me. He left the state so he wouldn't have to pay child support, thus making sure my mother had to do it all on her own. The family of the asshole were nice enough people though and agreed to help me out in college by paying for books for my undergraduate years (for a science major, that is a big, big help). Still, the asshole was 100% in the wrong for the exchange. Similarily I looked to other single-parent friends of mine. In every single one of them, the father was having the time of his life, fairly content with only seeing their children for a weekend every two weeks or how ever long. They lived in nicer homes than the moms and often were toying with fancy cars or shiny electronic gadgets. For the most part, these friends were lucky because the dads actually paid child support.

Now, I wrote these to demonstrate my first-hand account of the real story as I saw as compared with the feminist and gay propelled anti-family campaign that amicus sees it as.

Believe me I know all about having to mostly raise myself. I also remember how much love she put into me when she came home. How my scholastic accomplishments made her feel justified. Sure, it was hard, but I'm an introvert with an overactive imagination. Sure, the house was empty and notes were the main communication, but to blame her for that as if it was her fault that my dad was a shit is stupid. And from what I hear from the two-parent families, it's not all puppies and rainbows for them either. Sex is a problem no matter what your raising merely because parents don't like to talk about those things. That's why God made friends with smutty magazines or in the modern day and age in-depth knowledge of extreme fetish websites.

What I wrote in my P.S. was my tale and what I personally moi have observed in the case of single-parent families. In these observations, the man is either 100% to blame or at the very least makes off much better than the woman does and leads a much easier life. As I stated above, this does have its exceptions, most notably Tolyk.



As far as your first question, how do I feel about what? amicus, the original topic, his long unapologetic rant against feminists, homos, and lefties? My opinion about amicus was stated earlier. Through a severe disorder of romanticism, I believe that there is hope that amicus may one day realize exactly what he's been coming off as and just what he's been saying and either accept the consequences and not whine and protest that "the feminists are attacking me for no reason" or apologize. As to the original topic, I wrote what women have told me about their bubbies. As far as his rant, my despair laden response above is how I feel. I feel that he has continued to fail to grasp any or all of my points.



Now last part. Um, I didn't know I was encouraging that. I think you're completely missing the point that I've repeated no less than 3 times on this barren board. What I've been saying is the reason that he's being ignored by the ladies is because he's been an asshole to said ladies. This is not an admonishment nor a defense nor anything else. It is a mere fact. He's being ignored because he's a prick. It's a naturally progression of the freedom to take the consequences. The truth of the matter is that someone beloved like ABSTRUSE could make the same post and she would get description after description of boobs and bras. This is because she has earned the trust and friendship of the other posters. While it may seem ludicrous to some that the forum would work like this as it is an "open" forum, it's the way it is. Assholes don't get favors easily because they have abused trust.

For an example of why, look no further than yours truly who has repeatedly made the error of judgement of mentioning personal skeletons to unsavory audiences. To a nearly 100% degree these facts have been honed to weapons against me. My MPS, history of suicidal friends, death of an old chivalric friend, fatherly abandonment, and etc... have all been used in the past against me. Luckily though, I was a repeat victim throughout middle and high school so that bullshit is about at the level of someone poking another guy with a piece of their hair. It doesn't really affect me.

So, if by stating the simple obvious fact that he's being ignored because people think he's a prick and anything they say on the thread will be used against them, I am anti freedom of speech, then...okay, there's no nice way to put this. If you believe that, you're a moron. You're a really really braindead moron. I'm not deleting his posts, censoring him with black boxes. I'm not even disagreeing with him. I'm just answering his and your main question: "Why can't he get a response from the ladies?"

Furthermore, might I remind both of you that while freedom of speech allows you to rant anything you want, it doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you and politely nod their heads. Freedom of speech means they have the right to cuss you out, call you names, reveal uncomfortable truths about your messages. It means the right for them to insult you, even to protest you. Freedom of speech means you both have these rights. It's total freedom, just like the quote said.

"The greatest freedom is the freedom to take the consequences"

Words to live by in my opinion.



Hopefully all that got through, because this thread is pretty much empty and I'm kind of bored with repeating myself and watching my words fall into an empty hole in space.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

Snake,

Lc's point is quite valid. Amicus doesn't neccessarily hate women, but has voiced the opinion we are les intelligent, less competant, less worthy of the franchise, of the right to work or the right to make reproductive decisions, et al. In the course of several threads he has managed to frustrate, aggravate or inervate just about every woman who posts here regularly.

His opinion of women being what it is, it stands to reason that many have him on ignore and thus don't see this thread. Many others wouldn't open themselves up to someone who, in essence would happily return them to the days of bare foot & pregnant, be seen not heard and be silent in church if he had such power.

The question asked is personal, the response is of neccissity personal, given his less than cordial relations with most women here, it's not a surprise few have responded and even fewer have responded by divulging information.

LC & amicus have a history, so it isn't surprising the exchange becomes virtuprative quickly. Be that as it may, the point LC makes is still valid. If pops or Oggs or rumps had broached the question, I do not doubt there would be more responses. As is, you will have to count on new comers or those ladies who avoid the political threads and thus haven't pre formed an opinion to respond.

I would think English Lady, due to her obvious endowment and open nature might be a good one to get the ball rolling, assuming she notices the thread.

-Colly

Thanks Colly for once again stating it much better. besos,

But vituperative, really? Heh, I guess so. That was part of the reason I stopped doing the poly threads after all. In truth I feel I'm being fairly nice to him. I believe there's hope in him yet. He's starting to notice the alienation and he's starting more neutral and concilitory threads. Perhaps the great hope that began in my first posts against him will reach an end soon.

Eh, bugrit, I'm too much of a romantic for my own good.

I agree EL if she found her way here would probably be the one to start it. I don't believe she has gotten into a fight with amicus yet and this would be a topic up her alley. Though I also hope that if she did so, amicus wouldn't abuse her trust, much the way he did with the women who posted in "The Feminine Mistake".

 

[sincerely_helene]

But for women, here's a small development that may never change and that everyone can see. My ex used to talk about it like it was somekind of stock exchange and every woman is looking at their numbers... hoping they don't stop going up too soon. And, while waiting for that end-product, you have a very visible, very unimpressive representation of your budding womanhood.

Wow! My situation was quite the opposite. I was one of the first females in school to "blossum," and they just wouldn't seem to stop growing! More odd was that I never even noticed it was happening until it was too late.

I was terribly confused the day my mother brought home my first bra and casually presented it to me. I refused to wear it out of fear that people would see the lines through my shirt and suspect something was "up." The notion that I actually had formed visible curves was foriegn to me, right up until the moment that some brave classmate finally (and thankfully) pulled me aside and explained the other kids could see my nipples through my shirt. The wake up call was bizarre and embarassing. It was as though I had been in denial that I had developed them, and from that time forward I lived in baggy, triple-layered shirts.

I still wonder if it wasn't for the subtle and not so subtle hints, would I ever have even known they were there at all?

 

[scheherazade_79]

I have removed 'women only' from the title of this thread and welcome a male point of view...perhaps that may elicit a rational response instead of a hissy fit.

I already know the ugliness of your mind, I sure as hell do not wish to hear about your body.

amicus

Admittedly I'm not the world's greatest diplomat... but I'm not sure it's all that rational to insult a group of people and then expect them to help you out with some information.

There we go. Hissy fit over.

Now play nicely, Amicus. I'm new-ish to this and from what I've seen so far everyone in the AH seems lovely. I'm sure you are deep down too, buttercup. So don't let the side down!

 

[English Lady]

*chuckles* Well Colly you know me well. Here I am

(oh and don't worry LC, I'm a big girl and I don't just mean literally*L*)

Well I was about 10 when my breasts started to grow. I remember girls being in awe of my little cropped tops as they all wore normal vests. I was quite proud of'em to start out with.

Then I got into secondary school at 11 and they continued to grow. I was a 36c cup by the time I was 13 and my breasts just highlighted how much bigger than the other girls I was. I wasn't aware of them in a sexual sense at all not till i was around 13/14 and started reading teen magazines. I was not an attractive girl..not in the ees of the boys at school anyway. I was never asked out but I was a good frined to many of the lads. I know some of the 2cute" girls envied my closeness with the lads and I envied their lad attraction. grass is greener and all that...

I don't remember any boys actually being interested in them...well least not of my age. I do remember a few taunts from the older boys about my big tits. I was nowhere near confident enough to shout anything back at them but I was secretly pleased that my body had been noticed by someone and that it wasn't the fact I was "fat" that attracted that attention.

At 15 my bra size was around 40DD. I used to cover them up. I think mostly because my mum still did alot of clothes shopping with and for me so i wore what was appropriate in her eyes (I know thats kind of sad really, my mum was and still is to an extent, a controlling woman)nd so i was well covered up. *chuckles*

Even going into 6th form college i'd dress to cover myself up.Although i do remember vividly one particular summers day. It was hot and I wanted something cool to go to college in. I looked and found a dress. the bodice was quite tight and low cut but the skirt was quite long. It had a beautiful rose pattern upon it. Mum told me always to wear it with something over the top as it showed too much flesh. This one day I just thought "bugger it" and wore it anyway. I think i wanted to feel sexy. I think I wanted to be noticed for my good bits and not just because i was "fat"

Anyhow, a long story short I went into college(I was around 18 at the time) with this tight topped dress on and I remember the looks well. jaws loose,cheeks flushed all the lads noticed me but not one said anthing nasty or made a comment full stop but i remember the feeling of eyes on me and how sexy that felt.

So yes, my boobs are mostly my friend. They get in the way sometimes when I want to sleep,it's almost impossible to get pretty bras that come as large as a 46DD but otherwise i like'em.

I love it when a guy in the street just stares into my clevage *grins* makes me feel sexy. until i met my husband i hadn't ever conciously felt sexy and so it as a revelation to find out i was sexually attractive and that my breasts are a major part of that.

So my breasts were just annoying bumps that made me look fat in school but sine meeting my husband I've seen them as an asset more often than not. To the point where I openly display them for people to see here or on my own website.

So I think i covered most questions there *L* If you want any extra just ask. I'm happy to talk about my boobs anytime *L*

 

[BlackSnake]

Wow! My situation was quite the opposite. I was one of the first females in school to "blossum," and they just wouldn't seem to stop growing! More odd was that I never even noticed it was happening until it was too late.

I was terribly confused the day my mother brought home my first bra and casually presented it to me. I refused to wear it out of fear that people would see the lines through my shirt and suspect something was "up." The notion that I actually had formed visible curves was foriegn to me, right up until the moment that some brave classmate finally (and thankfully) pulled me aside and explained the other kids could see my nipples through my shirt. The wake up call was bizarre and embarassing. It was as though I had been in denial that I had developed them, and from that time forward I lived in baggy, triple-layered shirts.

I still wonder if it wasn't for the subtle and not so subtle hints, would I ever have even known they were there at all?

Helen,

This is totally awsome. I have no questions for you. I've taken an interest in knowing about this, since it came up.

Big hugs to you. I only wish that it could be a real one. I know this isn't my thread, but I never even thought about writing something so deep in any of my stories. You are an awesome lady.

 

[sincerely_helene]

Helen,

This is totally awsome. I have no questions for you. I've taken an interest in knowing about this, since it came up.

Big hugs to you. I only wish that it could be a real one. I know this isn't my thread, but I never even thought about writing something so deep in any of my stories. You are an awesome lady.

What a wonderful thing to read just before bed! Thank you, BlackSnake.