Boy's cant control themselves, so cover up girls

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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/06/02/3443919/teen-girls-dress-code-bra-straps/


As temperatures heat up, teenage girls across Canada are being kicked out of school for their summer attire. Between 20 and 30 girls in the Newfoundland and Labrador province were sent home at the end of last week for wearing sleeveless shirts that exposed their bra straps — leading some of them to complain that administrators are unfairly targeting girls who just want to dress comfortably.

Menihek High School sent home a group of female students last week for wearing spaghetti strap shirts, saying that violates the institution’s dress code. Although a few male students were also asked to leave for wearing sleeveless shirts, the school district allegedly approached the issue slightly differently with female students because they’re specifically worried about girls’ bare skin becoming a distraction.

Emily Connors, one of the students who was sent home, told CBC News that the girls who were asked to leave were told it was “because of our bra straps, and that it was inappropriate because some of the male teachers, and male students found it distracting for them.” Other students told the National Post that the school has been explicit about the fact that their bare shoulders could “invite unneeded attention” from male students because “boys will be boys.”

“We were actually given a presentation at the beginning of every school year, and they were telling us, ‘Well, you can’t wear certain types of shirts because they’re afraid that male students will take it the wrong way,’” recounted 12th grader Danielle Matias, who wasn’t asked to go home last week but who is still opposed to the school’s dress code.

Some parents are frustrated with Menihek High School as well. Emily’s father, Gary Connors, said that the school’s reasoning is “outrageous” and “as far as I’m concerned, what a woman wears doesn’t give a guy a right to do anything to them [or] say anything to them.”

The female students say they weren’t trying to violate the dress code, but they wanted to dress appropriately for the Canadian province’s unseasonably warm weather. Temperatures reached nearly 70 degrees last week, which is “a virtual heat wave in the harsh subarctic city,” according to the National Post.

This has been an recurring issue in Canada this spring. Over the past month, several teen girls across different provinces have been sent home from school for wearing shorts and sleeveless shirts. Now, some of them are fighting back against what they perceive as sexist dress codes. Last week, a 14-year-old in Ottawa wore a spaghetti strap shirt specifically to protest her school’s policy. And a 15-year-old in Quebec recently started hanging up signs around her high school telling school administrators, “It’s hot outside. Instead of shaming girls for their bodies, teach boys that girls are not sexual objects.”

Dress code issues certainly aren’t specific to our neighbor to the north. Here in the United States, schools across the country work to police girls’ necklines and hemlines so they aren’t a “distraction” to their male peers. Girls have been kicked out of prom for wearing short skirts, banned from wearing leggings to class, and even photoshopped to appear as though they’re showing less skin in their yearbook photos. There’s a common thread running throughout these examples: The assumption that it’s young women’s responsibility to cover up their bodies because men just can’t help themselves. Dress code critics point out that’s the same cultural attitude that contributes to rape culture and the normalization of violence against women.
 
I agree that the reasons given are worryingly similar to those given by Muslim patriarchs for the hijab and the burqa. I would say, however, that both young men and women should dress soberly and appropriately in school. It is a serious place of learning, not yet another chance for a social catch-up, and their clothes should reflect that. Uniforms are ideal, since they are clear-cut and avoid ambiguity, but at the very least a dress code for both sexes which makes it clear that school is a place of work and learning.

</End grumpy old man mode.>
 
Dress comfortably, dress slutty, your call.

School is no place to dress like a tramp.

If the schools don't like how she dresses she can go to another school.
 
nearly 70 degrees is not hot outside. a dress code is a dress code is a dress code. it gets into the 100's here and shoulders and mid drifts are expected to be covered during school hours. it's not about body shaming. it's about a reasonable set of dress standards for a learning environment. boys don't get to wear short shorts or armless shirts either. unfortunately, when you don't have a set of guidelines, some people go way too far. where i grew up, gang colors were of more concern than showing skin. dress code free "liberal" schools end up with 14 year olds wearing shorts so short, you can see butt cheeks hanging out. if you want to wear that after school hours, go for it, but there is a time and place for that dress.
 
It's an issue everywhere.

Nope, not around here.

(Except that if you try the "cover up because it makes men go crazy"- argument, you will be considered to be either a misogynistic fool or a religious crackpot (i'm not quite sure how to distinguish between those two))
 
Men are wired to check women out, plain and simple.

Uppity feminists can't undo millions of years of evolution.

Most men can control it, some can't, it's a fact of life.
 
saw that article this morning, there was a guy who made a very good point,



easy solution,

1. Have a dress code ( already got one? great, you are halfway there ) have both parents and students sign it every year, enforce it, no exceptions
( and you don't have to give reasons for having the code, just have it )

2. uniforms


now there is no debate,

she was just trying to shirk her own responsibility for not adhering to the dress code imo, but who fuckin cares anyway?
 
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The issue here is not how those girls dress, but the reason given for the prohibition of dressing in certain way.

Most men can control it, some can't, it's a fact of life.

Every cockroach can control which way it is looking. Sad to see a man believing some men have lower level of self control than a cockroach.
 
saw that article this morning, there was a guy who made a very good point,



easy solution,

1. Have a dress code ( already got one? great, you are halfway there ) have both parents and students sign it every year, enforce it, no exceptions
( and you don't have to give reasons for having the code, just have it )

2. uniforms


now there is no debate,

she was just trying to shirk her own responsibility for not adhering to the dress code imo, but who fuckin cares anyway?

I care. I have kids, I have to worry about such things and I do care how they're explaining a dress code to these kids. It was poorly handled and until we talk more about it, making it a highly visible issue then schools will feel free to keep saying "You know how boys are".

It's not okay. We shouldn't have to tell our girls that they should cover their shoulders because boys might not be able to control their impulses. That's bullshit.
 
The issue here is not how those girls dress, but the reason given for the prohibition of dressing in certain way.
.....

Yes, isn't it wonderful?
Because the men are jerks, let's limit the freedom of the girls.

The American Taliban is not a small force!
 
Yes, isn't it wonderful?
Because the men are jerks, let's limit the freedom of the girls.

The American Taliban is not a small force!

Except the article in question is about a Canadian school.

But that's cool.
 
Except the article in question is about a Canadian school.

But that's cool.

I reacted to the post from tex-ass.

But yes, it makes me wonder a little. I considered the Canadians to be more relaxed than the Americans?
 
I reacted to the post from tex-ass.

But yes, it makes me wonder a little. I had always considered the Canadians to be more relaxed than the Americans?

How does relaxation relate to the issue of schools telling their girls that since the boys are nothing more than animals they are responsible for covering their skin?
 
How does relaxation relate to the issue of schools telling their girls that since the boys are nothing more than animals they are responsible for covering their skin?

Relaxed attitude to sexuality and how you dress (quite a bit of French and Scandinavian genes).
If something is not an issue, then it is normally not exiting/provoking.
If you make it an issue, then it is.


Isn't funny, that the more religious you are, the more you want to hide Gawd's creations? And the more likely (and accepted) it is, that men are drooling, mindless animals? Nothing more than eternally threatening mobile penii?
 
The issue here is not how those girls dress, but the reason given for the prohibition of dressing in certain way.



Every cockroach can control which way it is looking. Sad to see a man believing some men have lower level of self control than a cockroach.

You must be one of those uppity feminist cunts.

Look at it this way, if men weren't wired to want to fuck, pigs like you would never get laid.
 
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The summer before I was to be a high school freshman, the US was swept by a new fashion craze, known as "hot pants." Hot pants reemerged decades later as "Daisy Dukes" and "Short shorts."


The school dress codes of the day defined how short a girl's skirt could be, but other than allowing shorts for girls(not for boys in grades 7 and up), there was nothing in the rules which prevented hot pants in public schools.

Apparently, it never occurred to anyone in authority that a parent would allow their daughter to leave the house in shorts that lifted and separated her vulva.

It was nice for a week or so. The halls were filled with girls who would now have to keep their summer bikini shave well into October. They didn't have to wait that long.

The school board quickly came to their aid and amended the dress code to ban anatomically correct shorts for girls. During the meantime, no girls were assaulted, at least not by me or anyone I knew.

Whether or not hot pants had any effect on consensual sex is hard to say, but this was the 70's and it's hard to increase a number that is already close to 100%.
 
Nope, not around here.

(Except that if you try the "cover up because it makes men go crazy"- argument, you will be considered to be either a misogynistic fool or a religious crackpot (i'm not quite sure how to distinguish between those two))

Schools don't have dress codes where you are?
 
You must be one of those uppity feminist cunts.

Look at it this way, if men weren't wired to want to fuck, pigs like you would never get laid.

Old internet rule - when you dont have arguments, load on insults :rolleyes:

Good job on portraying men as infantile idiots incapable of controlling brains when dick starts to talk.
Thank God I know not all men are like you.
 
Girls, we are told, cannot control themselves therefore they should have access to abortion.


When that is your go-to play, of what use is a dress code?


Just let them rut like animals.


Fuck standards...
 
nearly 70 degrees is not hot outside. a dress code is a dress code is a dress code. it gets into the 100's here and shoulders and mid drifts are expected to be covered during school hours. it's not about body shaming. it's about a reasonable set of dress standards for a learning environment. boys don't get to wear short shorts or armless shirts either. unfortunately, when you don't have a set of guidelines, some people go way too far. where i grew up, gang colors were of more concern than showing skin. dress code free "liberal" schools end up with 14 year olds wearing shorts so short, you can see butt cheeks hanging out. if you want to wear that after school hours, go for it, but there is a time and place for that dress.

Thank you. Funny how we hear nothing about the boys.

I like uniforms. Our girl has a summer uniform, a winter uniform and a sports uniform. And I make sure she wears it. Every day. It's good.
 
Schools don't have dress codes where you are?

They do not.

And the really funny thing is, that it is not a problem.

I think that a few private schools and some that are religiously based have, but the majority of schools do not have dress codes.
And I'm quite sure, that should a school try to dictate how the pupils dressed, it would cause an uproar from the parents and quite a bit of political noise.
 
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