Bond (spoiler)

Netzach said:
Um so. Casino Royale. CBT and naked interrogations - who said the post-Thanksgiving hollywood movie has to suck?


"everyone will know you died scratching my balls"

I loved it! I had gotten so tired the goofy gadets and scifi type plots *rolls eyes* I love going back to it being a more hard boiled detective/mystery/spy thriller type of film. I thought Daniel did an amazing job, he reminds me more of Sean with his build - he looks like the type who can take a beating and get up and give it back than Moore or the others did. I was glad they didn't try to glitz him up or make him a sex pot - I like a man with a little meat on his bones, not a six pack and veins popping up on his arms *shudders*
 
neonflux said:
Aside - La Femme Nikita *big sighhhhhhhh*

Back to the topic - was already eager to see the film, reviews here are just confirming that its well worth seeing...


Mmmm...Michael was so yummy o_O
 
Netzach said:
THAT was my biggest beef of all. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Ok please though, your interpretations:

when M rolls over in bed to answer the phone...

is that a cut young stud shoulder next to her in the background or a middle-aged spouse? Please confirm the former for me? How cool is that?


It was impression that he was a spouse - otherwise she would not have brought up top secret stuff in the middle of the night with him right there.

Curiousity: Do you think if MI6ers want to have a one night stand they have to have the people cleared before they take them home?
 
Shankara20 said:
hellllloooooo there big boy..


I saw the film last night and enjoyed it all, it did drag toward the end. I am about half way through the book (audio) and could see it's tracks all over the place. Having the girl in the middle of the road that caused him to flip was a great touch - in the book it was tire spikes. Texas Hold-en? Give me a break!

I loved that he got so frustrated that the CIA gut had to stop him and talk him down from killing the bad guy with that steak knife.

And the CBT stuff was great. He showed pain, and sweat and "in your faceness" very well.

My nuts still hurt and all I did was watch - must be body memory hee hee

Master made fun of me after movie cause I cringed when he totaled the car and made the comment that he should have run over the girl instead.
 
LunarKitten said:
It was impression that he was a spouse - otherwise she would not have brought up top secret stuff in the middle of the night with him right there.

Curiousity: Do you think if MI6ers want to have a one night stand they have to have the people cleared before they take them home?

This is a good point, however whatever headquarters M was ensconsed in seemed to be CRAWLING with young cuties with clearances for her to order around, so that was my assumption there, that she's probably snacking on some of them.
 
LunarKitten said:
Master made fun of me after movie cause I cringed when he totaled the car and made the comment that he should have run over the girl instead.

LOL that's awesome.

It wouldn't have really hindered anything and would have shaved off a half hour or so, I think you're right!
 
If it follows the book, that half hour wasn't wasted, though. Movie Bond's been a serial womanizer and misogynist, a charming misanthrope. That half hour, again, if it followed the book, shows part of where that came from.

Damaged and abused romanticism.

edit to add No, I still haven't seen it. Don't spoil for me the post-Cold War rationale for the whole thing, but if the general story was true to the book, I know how that all comes out, more or less. On another note, the book only vaguely hinted at the fact Bond had his marbles mangled - I can't imagine Brosnan doing that scene.
 
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SpectreT said:
If it follows the book, that half hour wasn't wasted, though. Movie Bond's been a serial womanizer and misogynist, a charming misanthrope. That half hour, again, if it followed the book, shows part of where that came from.

Damaged and abused romanticism.

Yah. Those high security clearance lifestyles are a bitch. God, if they could have sped it up though....zzz.
 
Saw Casino Royale today and thought it was the BEST Bond film made (thus far)
Loved Sean Connery as the original, meh @ Roger Moore, Pierce Brosnan too skinny.
I went to get popcorn during the much expected torture scene, I just couldn't bear to watch...thanks Netzach, alas I came back too soon, just in time to watch the scene...uhhuh that must have hurt..bigtime!
I kinda got the notion that JB had been tortured this way before, pain and pleasure...that smile on his face spoke volumes.
I did more groaning than some of the characters in the film I might add.
Loved the sexual scenes with clothes still on, not to mention his nice tight bum.
 
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The Bond movies have been about the only action type movies I watched in the cinema. I really really don't like the 'dirty' fighting, the blood, the hitting again and again. And every single scene was too long.
This very first hunt, over the construction site, whatever the point of that was, had me bored pretty quickly. Most other scenes weren't much better. Too long the same thing.
I found Daniel Craig better-looking, hotter than I expected though.
 
Chris .... For me it was his confident attitude, made him more ..I hate to use the word domly... but yes Dominant! I just felt pain during the construction site scene...chuckles.
What did you think about the shower scene? Just enough....eh?
Beautiful scenery esp. Venice. That ancient building coming down, I didn't realize that they used "pontillas" (floats) I'm not sure if that's even the right word, during re-construction.
 
From the book:

La Chiffre waited for his eyes to open.
"You see, dear boy? He smiled a soft, fat smile. "Is the position quite clear now?"
A drop of sweat fell off Bond's chin on to his naked chest.
"Now let us get down to business and and see how soon we can be finished with this unfortunate mess you have got yourself into." He puffed cheerfully at his cigarette and gave an admonitory tap on the floor beneath Bond's chair with his horrible and incongruous instrument. (in the book it was a cane carpet-beater)
"My dear boy," Le Chiffre spoke like a father, "the game of Red Indians is over, quite over. You have stumbled by mischance into a game for grown-ups and you have already found it a painful experience. You are not equipped, my dear boy, to play games with adults and it was very foolish of your nanny in London to have sent you out here with your spade and bucket. Very foolish indeed and most unfortunate for you."


reading that I so want a boi-toy, naked, tied down to a bench, to speak those words too as I reach for my toy bag.....

*sigh*
 
Shankara20 said:
From the book:

La Chiffre waited for his eyes to open.
"You see, dear boy? He smiled a soft, fat smile. "Is the position quite clear now?"
A drop of sweat fell off Bond's chin on to his naked chest.
"Now let us get down to business and and see how soon we can be finished with this unfortunate mess you have got yourself into." He puffed cheerfully at his cigarette and gave an admonitory tap on the floor beneath Bond's chair with his horrible and incongruous instrument. (in the book it was a cane carpet-beater)
"My dear boy," Le Chiffre spoke like a father, "the game of Red Indians is over, quite over. You have stumbled by mischance into a game for grown-ups and you have already found it a painful experience. You are not equipped, my dear boy, to play games with adults and it was very foolish of your nanny in London to have sent you out here with your spade and bucket. Very foolish indeed and most unfortunate for you."


reading that I so want a boi-toy, naked, tied down to a bench, to speak those words too as I reach for my toy bag.....

*sigh*


*faints*-- now I have to read the book too, Shankara-- I never knew that Bond was queer porn--

I just came back from the movie and am surprised to say that I loved it a bit :D

I'm thinking--

" My name is James---- James... Bottom" :D

Bredon
 
Bredon said:
*faints*-- now I have to read the book too, Shankara-- I never knew that Bond was queer porn--

I just came back from the movie and am surprised to say that I loved it a bit :D

I'm thinking--

" My name is James---- James... Bottom" :D

Bredon

My dear boy, that was the best part of the whole book....

Now, why not have a sit right here in the special chair...




I must admit I cringed some during that CBT scene
 
I'm shocked to say that I didn't cringe at all :eek: (apart from the general "torture is bad" amnesty type feelings)--

I would really like to take your offer to sit in that chair, but two problems present themselves--

a. I don't have nuts (being ftm)
b. I'm irreversibly dom, dear lad...

:D
 
Bredon said:
I'm shocked to say that I didn't cringe at all :eek: (apart from the general "torture is bad" amnesty type feelings)--

I would really like to take your offer to sit in that chair, but two problems present themselves--

a. I don't have nuts (being ftm)
b. I'm irreversibly dom, dear lad...

:D

well, this will take some creativity - but I don't see anything that can't be "handled" so to speak....



*ponder*
*ponder*
*ponder*
 
Saw the movie yesterday and was disappointed. Not at the movie itself because it was a good movie it just wasn't a Bond movie. It was just like any other half decent action movie.

I think the problem was that this was the 21 movie and that it was about his first mission. If I had seen this movie before I saw the other 20 I think I would have enjoyed all the character building much more :)



LunarKitten said:
...I loved it! I had gotten so tired the goofy gadets and scifi type plots *rolls eyes* I love going back to it being a more hard boiled detective/mystery/spy thriller type of film...

I thought this movie was much less a detective/mystery/spy thriller movie then most other Bond movies just a standard action movie. It was like they didn't know if they should go for a good plot or good action and ended up in the middle with nothing.
 
M Wisdom-- I felt like they were knowing that everybody has seen those 20 films (several times), and they were playing with expectancies, and often making jokes about certain Bond patterns-- it was like-- they bowed to the tradition, by only by the way-ish, and with toungue in ceek, while trying to rejuvenate the product and connect it more to the original novel Bond. And concentrate on characters. While I was bored by the Brosnan movies, I actually enjoyed this Bond as much as the Connery films.

Might have to do with bottom Bond though... :D

Bredon
 
Bredon said:
M Wisdom-- I felt like they were knowing that everybody has seen those 20 films (several times), and they were playing with expectancies, and often making jokes about certain Bond patterns-- it was like-- they bowed to the tradition, by only by the way-ish, and with toungue in ceek, while trying to rejuvenate the product and connect it more to the original novel Bond. And concentrate on characters. While I was bored by the Brosnan movies, I actually enjoyed this Bond as much as the Connery films.

Might have to do with bottom Bond though... :D

Bredon


Yes, they did try to rejuvenate and connect it more to the original novel. I didn't mind that they tried it I just don't think they did a good job. They tried to combine a modern action movie with an old time spy movie and ended up with a strange mix that didn't do much for me. The too long action scenes distracted from the spy movie and the too long character building parts distracted from the action movie. I think shorter scenes would have improved the movie a whole lot.

And the way too obvious product placement didnt help much :rolleyes:
 
I somewhat liked it that it was so loooong---


Shankara--- I'm waiting :D
 
Bredon said:
I somewhat liked it that it was so loooong---


Shankara--- I'm waiting :D

*ponder*
*ponder*
*ponder*

Two tops that want boi toys.... what to do, what to do,

*ponder*
*ponder*
*ponder*
 
Is the delay giving me a justification to get out the whip, I wonder...(solving all problems at once :D ).
 
Bredon said:
Is the delay giving me a justification to get out the whip, I wonder...(solving all problems at once :D ).

problem = two Tops with bags full of toys and no bois on whom to use the toys

what to do?
what to do?

errr. that should be...

who to do?
who to do?
 
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